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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2006, 08:36:34 pm »

JohnieG,  it takes a man to step forward and I for one understand your plight (been through one myself) they are never easy when they involve children.  I hope the best for you.

As to the sign, with Brian's e mails your attorney can petition the judge scheduled to hear your case for release of uncontested personal property in this case brian's e mails prove that neither you or your wife have ownership of the sign.

emails have been up held in  the 8th circuit court as court respected legal corespondence...

Just a thought,  hope the best for you....
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2006, 08:52:48 pm »

I appreciate the advice, but , been there & done that , my X-wife's attoneys contention isn't one of ownership, but of value, she contends that the service of reproducing Brians sign has a certain "value" & she's basically holding it (as well as all the other things ) finiancally hostage, and as the this value is appart of the common estate, it is currently held in "status quo" by the judge in order to keep either party from denying that value to the other party ( yes, it is liberal Orwellian double speak) I have already (unsuccessfully)  & the request to release the sign & other property (sold soda-machines & such) have fallen on deaf ears over the past months..but all good things must come to past, & Nov 1st is the date in this case.  

by the way, the sign in the picture is of the orignal sign, the reproduction was mistakenly applied over the cracked plexiglass seen in the picture, I had a second sign made, but they were unable to repro the curved portion on the top that wraps around. thus it will require a metal panel to fill the gap, or he's welcome to the original proto type (which is still cracked & shows through when the sign was lit-up. )
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« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2006, 09:05:14 pm »

Oh no................all this over that sign?  Seems basic enough to reproduce.  Eric can re-make that logo and the plastics shop can certainly cut and bend the white plastic but probably not before Nov 1, when yours will be available.
       Johnie just layed his cards out on the table for us all to read, he's in a rut and his hands are tied. He has been a tremendous help to us all at SMC and we'd do whatever we could to help him replace this sign for you .
       Think posative Brian
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« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2006, 09:30:31 pm »

BrianB ,
                 As Per JohnieG He has Helped Me before & I Greatly apprecated it . Some Time'S there are unforseen problems & they just need to be worked out !!
I for One am very very Happy that ALL THE People here offred help !!!! And JohnieG I 'm sure would have done anything not to allowed this to happen But I'v been threw A divorce & there UGLY !!!!!!!!!! & Costly on both sides .But allways watch for the Kids First.
 
My Problem Is For a Hole Machine .Which was only to have been for 3-4 Month's now were in to Month 13.Some Payment up front . But I'm Trying to be Very Very up-beat & postive for now .

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« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2006, 09:40:30 pm »

JohnieG,
Wishing you the best in getting through all of this!! Family is first. Nothing else matters. Thanks for everything over the years!!
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« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2006, 09:55:40 pm »

I worked at a factory and they would heat plexiglas and bend it
(was used for face shields on lathes and hob machines.)
I'll work on the sign tomorrow... get me the measurements
and I'll send a .pdf, , .tiff,  .jpg whatever a sign company needs to make it.
Work is coming to a finsh on the book so I can get back to the cap and
stuff in a few weeks.
Hope all works out for everyone!
I wish at times we could all meet! There are great people here.
Hang in there JohnieG... you'll be in my prayers.
This will all work out!
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« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2006, 12:08:44 am »

JohnieG,
I would have never guessed that Brian was referring to someone of your stature on the board. I can only empathize with your plight, as I have never been through a divorce. I have had my share of female trouble though.
It takes a man to admit his wrongs to friends and I admire you for that. I hope everything works out for you and ends amicably. Everyone here, as you know, is more than willing to help in any way we can, whether it be helping Brian with his sign or emotional support for you.
BTW - don't you have a Vendo 44 of mine? Maybe it was a VMC Royal Crown 81? J/K
Good luck and take care!




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« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2006, 06:24:14 am »

All,

Yes, divorce sucks. I was there 2 years ago as well. Family does come first. As a 15 year veteran of the United States Navy I know this all too well. I'm not trying to minimalize John's plight at all. But...........

It took me airing out this 1 year plus problem to get the WHOLE truth. If I hadn't of made this post I would have continued to get lied to and strung out only to find that all I would be stuck with is a pile of junk.

Yes, we should support John though his problem. That's not a problem.

But, For me to be LIED to for over a year is a very raw deal. To make it even more of a stab, I get this offer

"By the way, the sign in the picture is of the orignal sign, the reproduction was mistakenly applied over the cracked plexiglass seen in the picture, I had a second sign made, but they were unable to repro the curved portion on the top that wraps around. thus it will require a metal panel to fill the gap, or he's welcome to the original proto type (which is still cracked & shows through when the sign was lit-up. )"

#1 - Is it my fault that the sign shop placed the vinyl overlay onto my cracked original thereby ruining it? NO

#2 - Is it my fault that due to the inability of the sign shop to reproduce the curved portion of the plexiglass that I would be given the option of either accepting back my RUINED original or having to modify my sign housing to accept an incorrectly manufactured sign?'<img'>? So to make it all better "I'M WELCOME TO THE ORIGINAL PROTOTYPE"
Not only NO but heck NO!!!! If you mess up personal property that belongs to another person, YOU MAKE IT RIGHT! Not offer to have the person accept the broken junk back or FIX IT THEMSELVES!

To make matters worse, this isn't a something that is easily replaceable and even though the original was cracked, I still would have liked to get it back intact without unauthorized modifications as per the original deal.

All I want is what was PROMISED to me at the outset. The lying or "witholding information" (see lying) trumps the pity card. I was PROMISED an "REPRODUCTION" of my sign for my Vendo 210 Ice Cream Vending Machine.



John - I forgive you for everything that has transpired to this point.

With that being said, I leave it up to you to do the right thing.
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« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2006, 06:29:19 am »

All -

Here is a better picture of the sign. This one is exactly the same as mine except in this picture you can see the red diamonds in the background behind the lettering.
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« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2006, 08:04:59 am »

Brian,
Hope things work out and you get your sign back soon.




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