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« on: March 12, 2006, 12:01:27 pm » |
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Chaps
Might have a chance on a Jacobs machine. Its in the UK. The seller has shipped in quite a bit of coke related stuff. He's a Juke dealer so I'm not going to get it for a couple of pennies.
Have no pictures or even model number yet. All I know is its Pepsi. Don't knoew if its complete etc. Have looked through the previous threads on the Jacobs ad know that the drum is a sought after item. Anything else I need to be aware of??
Also do these machines just vend the small bottles?? I do remember being told that Pepsi offered twice as much juice as Cola in the 1950's so I was hoping that they would accomadate large bottles??
Thanks
Dave
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2006, 01:56:45 pm » |
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Hopefully it's a Jacobs 56 light up. These machines use shelves instead of drums and will vend 12 oz. bottles. try to get more info. on what he has. These machines are highly sought after.  '>
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2006, 02:37:47 pm » |
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I have heard that the Pepsi 56 machines need the original pepsi bottles to vend correctly. The ones that you can buy currently in Mexico get log jammed.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2006, 03:04:26 pm » |
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Hopefully he is sending pictures ASAP. As soon as I get them . I'll post. I'm getting a little excited but logic says calm down. If its anything worth talking about why would it be shipped over here when it would go for lots more over there. Hopefully know more soon.
Dave.
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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2006, 02:02:50 am » |
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Okay Chaps
Had some pictures sent through last night of the machine . Have e-mailed for a price and I'm awaiting his reply. Have had a look in the soda machines section and it looks to me to be the automatic vender.
Here are some pictures.
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2006, 02:10:39 am » |
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Here are a couple more. I've had a bit of a sleepless night. As much as I would love to own a Pepsi Machine I think the restoration here is beyhond me. Although I don't know the price yet I do know its not going to be a find of the week. Never is....
Have a look at these and tell me what you think. Is it all complete. How difficult is it to restore this model. f it is automatci vend I would imagine that has its own difficulties. Is the rsut too deep. Any advice would help. Will post the price when I get it.
Dave
Ps... He does say that there are a few dents in the machine too.
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2006, 02:15:55 am » |
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Dave,
What you have there is a Jacobs 50. Jeff Walter's 3rd book give it an average value of $1150. It is automatic and utilizes shelves inside instead of a drum. Looks like it might be missing at least one part - a sort of compressor access panel at the bottom of the main door; otherwise, looks pretty complete to me. Somebody who has one might see something missing that I don't though. Looks like a case of bad rot though around the breaker strip above the compressor.
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2006, 02:29:31 am » |
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Thats not too bad at all. The piece missing at the bottom is just a flat piece of metal. It wouldn't be hard to make at all. If the price is right get it. Those jacobs machines are great looking.
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2006, 03:43:37 am » |
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Josh & Tom
you're up late...
Have just had an e-mail with the price he wants £500.00 (about $850) doesn't know if it works because he hasn't fired it up. Don't blame him really. I was hoping he was going to come back with a really high price but at that sort of money I could probably just about stretch. Just a little concerned its going to be a bit too much for a complete novice. What do you reckon $850.00 not working possible parts missing...
As always thanks for the support...
Dave
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2006, 04:01:07 am » |
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Another thing.... Will this machine vend the large plastic bottles that come out of the
modern vending machines. 500ml here 12oz Ithink where you are...
Dave
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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2006, 12:18:50 pm » |
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Dave, I honestly have no idea about it vending large bottles. I doubt it though. Do you all have the 16.9oz bottles? If you do I bet they will vend. The book says an average machine is $1,150. Yours doesn't look too bad so I would say that he is asking about book value for a machine in that condition. The bottom pan shouldn't be that hard to replace but it will have to be professionally done and the same place can make you the bottom piece. They are rare machines here so Ill bet you won't find another one over there. They are good looking machines. Good luck deciding.
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2006, 12:36:59 pm » |
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Michael J. Fox vended a bottle of Pepsi from a Pepsi Jacobs machine in a scene in "Back To The Future".
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2006, 12:39:56 pm » |
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Here the 50 and 56 are the same cabnet. This is what the missing pannel looks like. It would be easy to replace.
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2006, 12:42:39 pm » |
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After looking at the pics better the missing cover is inside the machine up by the evaporator. That pannel is removable to allow better access to the cooling system. Someone has just removed it to have a better look at the compressor and never put it back. Dave if you can spare the money I would say get it. That is one heck of a nice machine. It is also generic so you could even personalize it if you wanted.
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2006, 12:43:45 pm » |
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Hi Josh
I'm going to see it on Monday. Will take along a bottle to see what it can do..
The other thing I have concerns about is parts. There doesn't seem to be a great market for repro parts on
this model. Do you know whether parts from the range are inter-changeable??
Dave
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« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2006, 05:10:01 pm » |
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It looks complete to me. All of the lenses are repoped and the cooling system is easily repaiable. And the vending mech looks complete. I wouldn't worry too much about parts. Some body work, replace the bottom pannel, and a good paint job and it could be a really nice machine. The two jacobs that I have had were in not so great shape. On both the electrical was a mess. but with some new wires they both fired up and cooled right away. Also these machines did not use standard wiring harnesses. They were just used individual wires that go to a junction block so rewiring is easy.
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« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2006, 05:18:49 pm » |
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Unique machine... would love to have a Jacobs....
If the rust isn't rot through I think I'd go for it just because of the style
not too many of these around..... wonder why... wonder if they were a short run
or a small company or what but would look SWEET restored taking a bottle along to
see if it fits will show him you're serious and and it doesn't take the bigger bottle and the rust
is pointed out... may drop the price a little.... good luck.... between this one and the RT 56
that JohnieG is going to look at this weekend hope it'll be a great weekend for finds for all.
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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2006, 06:25:56 pm » |
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Kito - You are soooo funny.
Josh - How about the automatic vend. Have you seen this in operation. Is there anything I need to have an eye out for there??? How does it work etc.
I can see that you have a real passion of these machines. I'm away this weekend on a min break with the family so will be stopping by the machine on the way home. This is my last oppotunity to ask questions. I think I've made my mind up and will go for it.
Thanks Chaps
Dave
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« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2006, 06:51:52 pm » |
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The vend mech looks really similar to the mechanical vend model. On the mechanical 56 the coin mech unlocks the vend gate and the bottle uses its own weight to fall through. On the electric model as far as I can see from your pics it is just a sylanoid that unlocks the same pece and the bottle falls through. It is really simple. Once you see how it works it is probably the most basic vending mech I have ever seen.
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« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2006, 07:51:44 pm » |
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Dave,
I am pretty sure that the bottom panel that you are missing is repopped by FunTronics. I recently ordered their catalog and they had a reference to that bottom piece. When I dig out the catalog, I'll write what it say word for word and price.
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« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2006, 08:52:54 pm » |
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Dave,
Honestly, unless it will cause bad issues with the wife (which, all kidding aside, is a very important thing to always consider), you really should go for it. All of us here would in a heartbeat and it would look very cool in your already cool room. I personally have always wanted a Jacobs, but the very few that I have ever encountered were always missing the drum/vending guts. So I am excited for you and really think you will regret it if you pass on it.
Besides, not too long ago you were always whining (just kidding) about how all the machines are on our side of the pond and that you never find machines over there. Well, guess what, you found a great one, now don't pass it up.
From the looks of the paint splatters on it, it looks like Jackson Pollock was the previous owner.  '>
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« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2006, 09:31:14 pm » |
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LOL Kito. Dave, that machine is rare, I have never seen one in person. Hawk a 39 if you must, but claim this Jacobs for yourself...... Overseas shipping is more than the entire machine price
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« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2006, 09:26:27 pm » |
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Yes Mrs. Dave... And think of the quality time you BOTH could spend working together cleaning this wonderful piece of history... I'm sure that is what Dave had in mind all along..... Quality time....
together.... cleaning.... uh... work..... wow this is going south fast.... uh.... good luck.....  '>
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« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2006, 10:45:43 am » |
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Hello Everyone.
Stopped by the sellers place today on the way home from a weekend with the family. The seller
has managed to get ahold of quite a few machines from a prop company. All of them, apart from the Jacobs are shells. Such a pitty.
Anyway had a look at the Jacobs. Wasn't sure what I was looking at and the room was very dark. The rust on the shelf between the compressor housing and the cooling unit has rust through. Just as Josh had said. The Compressor panel is missing ad can't be found. There quite a few dents some look fairly heavy. He said that it was due to the fact that the machine doesn't have any lifting handles etc.
Anyway to cut a long story short I managed to get it for £360.00. I don't know what that is US about $500.00 or so. Maybe a tadge more.
I pick it up next week some time and I can then take a few more piccies and post them. This really is a project job so I will be calling on your help throughout.
I'm very excited though. As it stands at the moment I am now the owner of three soda machines. The way I'm going I might even be able to list my bits and pieces at the end of my signature soon.
Dave
PS... The wife didn't even bat an eyelid. She doesn't know it yet but I have enrolled her in evening classes for a bit of Welding. Taking Erics advice to heart.
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« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2006, 10:49:53 am » |
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There is nothing better to get the wife in a good mood than scrubbing down the inside of a Vending machine that's been sitting around for 40 years!... Actually my wife didn't mind helping me one day until she found the "Family" of mice that "Expired" in the evaporater jar in my Jacobs 26 that I was cleaning out... This is kinda gross but interesting.. one of the mice actually got stuck in the little hole they where going in and out of and Trapped the others inside to live in eternity in my Jacobs... (they have been removed!)
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« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2006, 11:08:43 am » |
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My wife, who long ago passed the rolling the eyes routine at me buying stuff, who hates anything that involves measuring, sanding or boring repetition (strange since she a chemist who measures stuff over and over each day) has somehow not only decided she wants an ICY-O but wants to fix it herself. Furthermore she has "commanded" me to find one for her at once. Who I am to complain.
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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2006, 11:59:08 am » |
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Dave,
Great to hear. I'm excited for you.
How fun to have a Jacobs!
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« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2006, 12:32:04 pm » |
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Dave, that is great. A Pepsi Jacobs in any condition for $500 is a steal. You should get your wife into this hobby. Kate loves working on machines. She has recently taken up welding and is doing really well. I gave her a square top 96 to use as scrap metal and she has been making all kinds of stuff. I needed a bottle door from a square top 56 to be cut down to fit a round top 56 and she did great.
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« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2006, 12:38:18 pm » |
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Dave,
Give me a shout if you need me to pick up anything for you.
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Josh,
I could be wrong, but I don't remember welders looking that good. '>
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« Reply #34 on: March 29, 2006, 09:41:51 am » |
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Restored Jacobs 50 Auction
Dave - keep an eye on this and it will make you feel very good about your recent purchase!
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« Reply #35 on: March 29, 2006, 10:26:14 am » |
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Tom
thanks.... If it hits its upper limit I can proudly show the wife what a bargain WE managed to achieve.
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« Reply #36 on: March 31, 2006, 04:23:45 pm » |
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Right
I made a promise to my wife that before I went anywhere near the Jacbs I would sort out the Pump.
My wife works Friday Nights and when the kids finally fell asleep I just had to have a little look.
The inner door of the machine has had its lock removed. The door was shut solid. After fiddling around and removing back covers etc I managed to access the inner sanctury.
I half expected there to be no coin mech but have a look at what I found. The coin mech looks almost brand new.
Would this have been a replacement towards the end of the machines life??? I cant believe the condition of it in comparison to the rest of the machine. Such a pitty the rest isn't like it.
I found a 1964 5 cent piece in the mech.
I tell you what guys when I eventually do get around to doing something with the machine I am going to poo myself. I just have not got a clue where to even start.
Anyway here are the piccies.
Dave
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« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2006, 05:48:16 am » |
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| Quote (davethebirdman @ Mar. 31 2006,4:23) | | I tell you what guys when I eventually do get around to doing something with the machine I am going to poo myself. |
Dave,
The above quote is hysterical! I needed a good laugh on this Monday morning. Let me know if you need me to pick up any parts for you. I'd be happy to ship stuff over again. It was real easy the last time.
That coin mech looks like it was just taken out of the box. Wow!!
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| Quote (davethebirdman @ Mar. 29 2006,9:26) | Tom
thanks.... If it hits its upper limit I can proudly show the wife what a bargain WE managed to achieve.
Dave |
Dave,
I think it is safe to say that you have a good investment on your hands. The wife should be pleased:
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