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« Reply #30 on: October 02, 2007, 04:44:15 pm » |
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Jim, That's a great Idea!
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« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2007, 06:02:39 pm » |
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Serial numbers are a good idea are they all in sequence? or were they built at various times? If this guy had a die made wouldnt he be putting more on ebay as this one sold fairly quickly? Where are the other two?
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« Reply #32 on: October 02, 2007, 06:46:00 pm » |
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As far as I can remember, the RC 81's were manufactured as one run in sequential order and only 200 may have been made...
Steve Jebb may have some additional info... Hopefully someone will have accurate data to post...l
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« Reply #33 on: October 02, 2007, 08:20:04 pm » |
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Good Thoughts by all,,, I think though we do need to make the steps toward the copyright infingement... Who owns RC these days? I'lll do some digging tomorrow.. At least a letter or phone call to a few people with RC wouldn't hurt.. Not that we wanna lock the guy up, just stop him from selling something that could jeapordize this hobby.... someone should pose as a buyer and see if we can get this guy on the phone and explain to him the ramifications of such items ... weather original or not, it's not from an original RC machine and therefore should not be allowed out there on the market... Just thoughts.  |
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« Reply #34 on: October 02, 2007, 08:33:06 pm » |
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see if we can get this guy on the phone and explain to him the ramifications of such items ...
Wish we could have done this BEFORE someone spent $10K tooling this stamping equipment~ Hmmmm.... wonder what's stopping them from directly stamping a generic door?  Serial numbers would be visible and usefull on the un-restored RC 81's, but this new wave of fakes will be restored and have a brand new stamped I.D. tag. Buyer beware! |
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« Reply #35 on: October 02, 2007, 08:43:57 pm » |
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« Reply #36 on: October 02, 2007, 09:12:52 pm » |
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I have learned from 47 years of living that sometimes I jump the gun and assume things - just to find out that I am wrong and feel like an idiot.
Could it be that this guy told Ginger he had two more in an attempt to scam her (outside of eBay) out of her money (being overseas)?
I think everybody should wait and see whether another pops up (or repops up).
While I am certainly as outraged as everyone else that somebody might have forged these RC embossings - let us give him the benefit of the doubt - innocent until proven guilty!
How many RC110's were made? Was it the same size embossing? Could a carry cooler be the same size embossing?
Before we go at this guy with guns blazing, lets see if we can get an explanation.
Another option is to contact eBay - they are against copyright infringement and, if they knew the value of the items affected, might take action against him. While this will not eliminate all his avenues for sale - it will take away a prominant one.
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« Reply #37 on: October 02, 2007, 09:20:25 pm » |
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I will have an RC 81 in the next week or 2 I will be reassembling for a friend of mine. I should be able to get any measurements that would be needed.
I looked at that auction and noticed it was only listed for about 2 hours. Whoever bought it sure knew what they were getting into.
Does anyone think it will be possible to get any serial numbers from RC or maybe Vendo?
Marvin
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« Reply #38 on: October 02, 2007, 09:53:24 pm » |
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Could it be that this guy told Ginger he had two more in an attempt to scam her (outside of eBay) out of her money (being overseas)?
He carries a very posative e-bay feedback selling gold nuggets...............  |
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« Reply #39 on: October 02, 2007, 10:24:51 pm » |
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What happened to the original dies?
In the gas hobby Ron Scobie makes the glass jar lids from original tooling. Does that make them reproduction?
I am by no means saying making them is OK, just looking at the other side of the story. unless we hear from the seller we really have no way other than guessing.
Be carefull not to jump to conclusions. I have a friend who was "drug through the mud" by some greedy power hungry people only on a hunch.
Marvin
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