Houston,,we have a problem?

[dprat1]

Greetings,
Hope everyone had a good Holiday. It appears I have run into a slight problem here. I have received my new compressor from Eric. He married it to my existing interior cooling coil. He did a wonderful job and it purrs like a kitten (Thanks Eric). This machine was missing all the interior brackets and spindles that I have since obtained. It only had the interior coil, fan and fan shroud sheetmetal. When I attempted to install everything I noticed that the cooling coil extended about 3" below the fan shroud and the mounting holes at the bottom did not line up. Then I realized the coil covered the upper left mounting hole on the lower spindle bracket. To make a long story short....I can not mount the spindle bracket because of the longer cooling coil. I thought perhaps the coil was not original, but have seen other pictures with the same coil that extends beyond the shroud also. Were there different types of lower spindle brackets for some of these machines? An easy fix would be to notch out the bracket perhaps?
Question # 2, the fan is wired and runs all the time. Does it need to be this way or can it be also wired through the thermostat to only run when the compressor is running? Was going to call Eric with this but thought I would throw it in while I was here. I hope to have an unvieling here by the end of this mounth Thanks,
doug

oop'sss...put this on wrong forum, sorry.

[Kevin C]

Hello

The upper evaporator fan motor runs all the time.

Now for the first part of your problem!!!! Maybe better post a picture to show the situation.

Kevin

[dprat1]

Kevin,
Thanks for the reply. The fan does run all the time. Suppose my question was,, does it need to? Seems would be more efficient if only ran with compressor.
I am not able to post a picture of the machines interior at this time. Was hoping my dilema would ring a bell with someone here. Also, is there a way to move my original post to the correct catagory, "Pre 60's Machines" ?
Thanks,
doug

[dprat1]

110 views of this post and 1 member reply? Guess not too many familiar with the C-51 here?
Thanks anyway,
Doug

[Creighton]

Doug,
I've never seen a C-51 and not sure what a spindle bracket might be. Here are some thoughts. Since everything except the spindle bracket is orginal to the machine, it is possible that variations exist. I would not notch an orginal bracket. Can a replacement be fabricated? This would get you up and running until the proper fix is sorted.

The top fan needs to run 24/7. This circulates cold air in the product area and reduces moisture/condensation build up.

Pictures or a rough sketch really help to sort out various issues. This group of folks give 110%. Sometimes an answer can be elusive just because nobody knows.
Creighton

[Jim]

Doug,

Can you provide a photo...?
I'll have to dig into a manual for details and I'm off to work right now so I'll have to get back to you tomorrow...
The evaporator fan is supposed to run all the time to constantly circulate air in the cooling compartment. If this is rewired to function when the thermostat energizes the compressor cycle, you might experience unven cooling of your soda...

[Lulu]

Doug,

A picture would sure help.  I'll look at my machine to see if I can figure out what's wrong.  I'm with Creighton, tho--don't notch the bracket--rig something else up until you know what the problem is.

[90grad]

Doug,

I have a restoration manual for the C-51, and in one section talking about replacing the refrigeration, it states:

"Loosen the lower spindle channel mounting screws and raise the channel to loosen bottle container conveyer."  

To me, this sounds like the lower spindle bracket may be slotted, so it can be adjustable in height.  The instructions didn't say to remove the screws, it just says to loosen them.  Maybe this is something to try.  I'll try to look at mine when I get home.

I do know the evaporator coil in my machine, which is an early model C-51, does not extend beyond the shroud.

[Lulu]

Doug,

I looked at my machines.  One has a cooling unit that hangs below the shroud and the other machine has a shorter unit that does not.  Unfortunately, I don't have the mounting bracket for the longer one.  But, from looking at the two (they are in different sheds so it wasn't a side by side comparison), I don't see how the mounting bracket I have would fit the other machine because of the coil being longer.
I did see that on the longer coil, the bottom screw holes did not line up with the ones on the liner.  They were 1 1/2" to 2" below.  The cooling unit was only fastened at the top screw holes.  Someone had replaced the fan motor on this machine, so it has been apart.  I don't know to what extent it is "original".  But, I would think that another mounting bracket could easily be fabricated for your machine.  I'm sorry you ran in to this snag.  I didn't realize the difference until you posed this problem.  Thanks for the heads up.

The manual I have shows the smaller coil with the bracket that I have.  I remember talking with someone about the other machine, and was told that it was "the older version".  Maybe that is the difference...

Hope I didn't confuse you too much.

[90grad]

Doug,

I couldn't add a photo to my previous post, so I'll stick it here.  This is a picture of the inside and you can kind of see the shroud area.  The evap coil is definitely covered.  My machine is a 1953 model and doesn't have the condensor fan.  It relies on convection cooling.  Maybe the units with the condensor fan used the larger evap coil?