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« on: November 25, 2019, 09:19:26 pm » |
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Does anyone have a wiring diagram for a Cavalier 27?
Thanks !
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« Last Edit: November 25, 2019, 09:31:49 pm by Slapshot42 »
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johnieG
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2019, 05:45:10 pm » |
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Here it is... I just rewired a C27 with a new modern compressor harness. & repaired the sold out switch mechnism.
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« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 08:51:02 pm by johnieG »
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001...  Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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Slapshot42
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2019, 10:25:26 pm » |
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I need the diagram for the original Fridgeaire Compressor . Been working with a few resources on a few options . The compressor is a LOX 1212 Meter Miser like they used in a domestic fridge .
My original thought was to buy a 3-1 relay and wire C, S, R and use a newer style 4 lead compressor but it sounds like these older units don’t allow based on the relay and t stat being tied in together . Perhaps it I also change the t stat ?
The other option is to make my old wiring harness which I don’t relish doing . I have a poor sketch of what I think might work... I’ll resize and attract shortly .
The only thing mid picture is a hot wire for power strip which I could get a hot from either my fan or directly out of the relay box with an extra lead.
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Slapshot42
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2019, 11:24:43 pm » |
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Here it is... I just rewired a C27 with a new modern compressor harness. & repaired the sold out switch mechnism.
How did you tie in the on board relay did you use 3 and 1? |
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johnieG
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« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2019, 05:39:46 pm » |
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I eliminated the original T-stat, the old start-run potential relay assy. & wired in a standard replacement vending machine wiring harness and a 3-in-1, it simplified things quite a bit.
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« Last Edit: December 03, 2019, 08:18:22 pm by johnieG »
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001... Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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Jim
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« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2019, 07:12:32 pm » |
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Nicely done Johnie!
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Slapshot42
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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2019, 07:45:49 pm » |
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I eliminated the original T-stat, the old start-run potential relay assy. & wired in a standard replacement vending machine wiring harness and a 3-in-1, it simplified things quite a bit.
That was my original idea but i was told since the original compressor and t stat are tied together that it wouldn’t work . By eliminating the old t stat I assume you replaced with a new one ? Contact or Non - Contact? I was told by the suppliers they don’t make the evap fan motor luckily mine works . Did you just use ring terminals for the C, S, R? |
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2019, 08:36:19 pm » |
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Yes, I used a new Ranco beverage cooler/non-contact type, also I used ring terminals on the compressor leads. The evaporator fan is a joy to change as you have to remove the drum ‘s guts to get at it, but I have succeeded in adapting a standard unit-bearing motor in the past, fortunately, this machine didn’t need it replaced ( plus it was an “economy” repair anyway and not a full on restoration) getting the compressor replaced is also a chore as the whole chassis/body must be lifted up & off in order to remove and replace it.
One more thing, use a properly sized 3-in1 (1/5Hp in this application) if you go too big, say 1/4-1/3 HP, you run a very good chance of damaging the start winding on the compressor, & then you’ll be crying.
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« Last Edit: November 27, 2019, 08:42:15 pm by johnieG »
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001... Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2019, 08:51:26 pm » |
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Yes, I used a new Ranco beverage cooler/non-contact type, also I used ring terminals on the compressor leads. The evaporator fan is a joy to change as you have to remove the drum ‘s guts to get at it, but I have succeeded in adapting a standard unit-bearing motor in the past, fortunately, this machine didn’t need it replaced ( plus it was an “economy” repair anyway and not a full on restoration) getting the compressor replaced is also a chore as the whole chassis/body must be lifted up & off in order to remove and replace it.
One more thing, use a properly sized 3-in1 (1/5Hp in this application) if you go too big, say 1/4-1/3 HP, you run a very good chance of damaging the start winding on the compressor, & then you’ll be crying.
I removed 2 of them this week. I live to tell the story. I bought the Supco RC810 - 1/12-1/5. Did you use a 3 lead so you have a hot wire to feed the terminal strip ? |
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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2019, 09:32:08 pm » |
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Nope, just the two-lead model, the replacement compressor harness has an accessory connector that supplies line voltage ( not switched) it’s just not shown in my state of the art drawing...  I just tapped onto that & wired it into the upper terminal strip to supply line voltage to the vending & sold-out circuit. Yep that’s the pileup I remember!  Jeeze, they always look so cute & innocent on the surface, ( just like kids  ). |
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« Last Edit: June 20, 2020, 01:05:48 am by johnieG »
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001... Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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