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« on: March 20, 2005, 09:52:15 pm » |
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The ideal 55 that I have been bugging you all about has thrown me another curve. The slider as purchased is a non embossed, coca cola scheme. However, upon disassembly of the side door, I found underneath a nice shiny, smooth, unmistakable paint layer of Dr. Pepper green. Closer inspection reveals this green layer in the corners etc. Since I have only been at this hobby of a couple of years, I have not seen a slider in the Dr. Pepper scheme. I am sure the Sliders were painted in many brand configurations...I just have not seen a Dr. Pepper one yet.
In light of the fact I just bought me an embossed Coca Cola 55 , I am inclined to now restore this one back to its Dr. Pepper origins. I found one photo on a website (attached). My question: Is the scheme pretty accurate for how a slider would look? Anyone know? Anyone got a better photo?
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jeff
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firemun
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« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2005, 09:54:07 pm » |
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Ooops, now with the photo attached
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Eric
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« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2005, 10:42:22 pm » |
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The round sign is wrong but may have been the only sign they had... The front would have had a
square, rounded corner sign screwed to the front like an DP 81. You see that type of sign on eBay from time to time.
love the color scheme... good luck...
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« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2005, 10:58:08 pm » |
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| Quote (Eric @ Mar. 20 2005,10:42) | The round sign is wrong but may have been the only sign they had... The front would have had a
square, rounded corner sign screwed to the front like an DP 81. You see that type of sign on eBay from time to time.
love the color scheme... good luck... |
Eric,
Here is a photo from Steve Jebb's website for a sheet of Dr. Pepper Decals. Would the sign you refer to look like the decal of the rectangular logo on this sheet?
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« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2005, 10:59:47 pm » |
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Welcome to the board!
First job I had worked on a farm/tourist trap that had a DP Slider. It was that shade of green and if memory serves was just painted or a decal in the DP script (not 10-2-4).
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Eric
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2005, 09:31:43 am » |
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Yep that red rectangular logo was it... Hand decal would look cool on the side door too.
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« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2005, 03:25:38 am » |
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Forgive my cluelessness, but us non-southerners (Minnesotans) never really got into Dr. Pepper, so I am curious what 10-2-4 stands for. The bottle's figure's measurements? 
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firemun
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« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2005, 08:06:19 am » |
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It was a marketing slogan. Dr Pepper is supposed to "Pep" you up. 10, 2, & 4 are the times of day when you need a little pep, so the marketing scheme was to have a Dr. Pepper at 10, 2 and 4 o'oclock.
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2005, 08:13:36 am » |
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Had a few minutes yesterday to work on the slider. As noted in the earlier posts, I was convinced this was a Dr. Pepper -generic slider. However, as I stipped the paint, I found Coca Cola scripts (1 decal, and 2 painted) on each layer of paint. Amazingly, this slider in spite of the Dr. Pepper (?) green, was Coke to the bone. Did Coke ever use a green that was close enough to mistake for the Dr. Pepper pale mint green?
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2005, 08:31:43 am » |
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I don't think so... The distributers where good for doing this to machines....
DP probably got the account route this cooler was sitting in and presto-change-o
it became a DP cooler.... I know of a 7up slider that Coca-Cola took, painted red
and screwed a Coke button over the 7up embossing in my home town.The original owner
told me that story (and didn't sell me the cooler)
I know Glasco didn't emboss their Coke machines.... Didn't know Ideal had non-embossed
Coke sliders.... Good to know....
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2005, 08:57:18 am » |
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Good! There's enough Coke machines...... And it may have started out DP.
I've seen a lot of machine and coolers where other branded them with their decals
(A Coke machine with 7up or Pepsi cap decals) It's kinda cool look'n. I'm
tempted to ad a differnet decal to my machine... Makes them look more authentic....
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2005, 03:59:06 pm » |
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Nope, "Sprite" green isn't even close, nor was "Teem"
& Vernors green is just as dark as the other two mentioned, don't let this confuse you, Vendors & Bottlers use to & still do , Umm...."Aquire" and/or inherit other Bottles machines, and paint them to suite thier need's, case in point, I've got two "Faygo" machines ( a local independant Bottler here in Michingan for those of you who aren't up here in the Northeast/GreatLakes states), Both were Aquired from Coke & repainted Faygo "White" & givin new light-up graphic & vinyl logos for Faygo-Cola" & "Rock-n-Rye" & "Redpop" so don't be surprised, it happen to generics a lot....
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001...  Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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« Reply #14 on: March 25, 2005, 07:26:20 pm » |
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No, Coke used a dark green early on 20's-30's example would be on glasscock coolers. Your machine was probably bootlegged by Dr. pepper and painted/decaled in their brand. You can find quite a few different colors on machines when restoring it. I find this to be a good thing because more paint usually equals less rust. Here's how it usually happened- A gas station would have a coca-cola machine and Pepsi would come along and offer them a new machine and a better incentive to sell their products. They would "dispose" of the old coca-cola machine for the gas station. What they usually did was repaint the old coca-cola machine in their colors/decals and put it on location somewhere else. 
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« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2005, 07:49:59 pm » |
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| Quote (sodaworks @ Mar. 25 2005,7:26) | | No, Coke used a dark green early on 20's-30's example would be on glasscock coolers. Your machine was probably bootlegged by Dr. pepper and painted/decaled in their brand. You can find quite a few different colors on machines when restoring it. I find this to be a good thing because more paint usually equals less rust. Here's how it usually happened- A gas station would have a coca-cola machine and Pepsi would come along and offer them a new machine and a better incentive to sell their products. They would "dispose" of the old coca-cola machine for the gas station. What they usually did was repaint the old coca-cola machine in their colors/decals and put it on location somewhere else. |
Yes, I know that Coke used dark green on 20's & 30's machines, but the answer was givin in context of the 50's slider in question. thanks for the additional info! I've even seen a quickcold ice chest "Pepsi" generic with original silkscreened graphics too.) that was of all things red! you never know! it's what makes this hobby fun.  '> |
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