FDNY1975
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« on: October 11, 2012, 08:16:31 am » |
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Through word of mouth I found a Seeburg 100R about 30 minutes from my house I am going to look at it tomorrow. The seller states that it is a 10 year old restoration and they are asking $3800.00 for it but it has to be sold by Monday since they are moving and do not have room for it. Not being familiar with Jukes I was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers as to what to look for and what these are selling for. Understand that they need it gone in a few days so that helps me on the price I offer. Price they are asking seems high for a older restoration. Includes 50 or so 45's. Thanks Matt
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« Last Edit: October 11, 2012, 08:41:16 am by FDNY1975 »
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bcharlton
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« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2012, 08:20:14 am » |
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I have a Seeburg R. It is a great jukebox. I can be more helpful with pictures. The seller has "shown his hand" and may make your job easier to negotiate. I would spend $3000 for a nicely restored R.
i would offer $2000 (assuming it looks great and works) and start from there.
Just my .02
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2012, 08:52:55 am » |
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I'm not a juke box expert but konw the differences between a restoration and a "clean up" .. so make sure to look for things like
the condition of the wood, has it been re-veneered or repainted the condition of the glass.. is it in good shape, no cracks, chips, etc the Chrome.. has it been redone or just polished? look for pitting and such.. a 10 year old restoration should have good chrome still if done properly obviously operation.. make sure it works the right way.. look at the insides see if the insides where redone too, the amp rebuilt
I'd say showing the guy $3000 in cash would convince him if all checks out ok...
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Kilroy
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2012, 08:55:41 am » |
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I've seen A1 restorations go for 2500-3000 these days, , a few years ago, yes he could have gotten $3800. as for what to look for
- check the veneer for peeling , the chrome for pitting it could indicate a half #$%R# restoration or storage in humid conditions
-Play a few records - test the sound , volume control is in the back, should be sharp and clear, the R is Hi Fidelity, not stereo.
- coin gear should be intact, If it's on freeplay, Make sure arms were bent in the credit swtich to keep the solenoids energized. This could cause a fire or burn out your keyboard solenoids.
The R is a bice bix. Good luck.
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FDNY1975
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« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2012, 09:25:51 am » |
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All good advice as for condition I know what to look for in a quality restoration but component wise I am not familiar with Jukes. So as always you guys give great advice. Will get you some pictures tomorrow. Thanks Matt
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« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2012, 10:07:25 am » |
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Ask if the amp has been recapped, you'll know from the sound quality, and don't be afraid to turn up the volume to taste the amp and speakers. the inside should be clean, I would think a restore would have the insides painted. The R is a poular model, so most parts are repopped or OEM peices turn up on Ebay. Good luck!
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TomFromJersey
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« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2012, 06:42:47 pm » |
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Ask "who" did the restoration. Reputations for doing good or poor work tend to follow people. If it was done 10 years ago and was a top quality job by an actual restorer then $2000 to $2500 would be fair. There were guys that charged $5500 10 years a go for a freshly restored box, they couldn't get that amount for the same box today. TFJ
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« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2012, 07:44:42 pm » |
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The R is my favorite box. Way ahead of it's time because it has awesome sound even to this day.
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FDNY1975
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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2012, 07:31:53 pm » |
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An update I met with the seller today was not able to get a pic sorry. They say the machine had a restoration done 5 years ago. It does look like a newer restoration and a quality one at that all the chrome was in good shape, glass, paint was still pristine, wood veneer was in great shape. Sounded good was on set on freeplay.Come with about 100 45's. I found out the restoration was done upstate NY somewhere they say for $5000.00. Here is the deal the house was sold they are having a estate sale and are asking $4000.00 for it at the estate sale it needs to be sold this weekend because the movers are coming on Monday. I made a reasonable offer we were still too far apart they said if it doesn't sell at the estate sale I would be hearing from them. My offer was no where near $4000.00 hopefully it does not sell tomorrow. Will let you know.
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FDNY1975
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« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2012, 08:11:06 pm » |
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I have a question relating to Jukebox restoration I see there are a few companies that keep popping up when you do a search for Jukeboxes/restoration/sales.. Is there anyone on here that has used someone or know of someone that does/sells quality restorations that you would recommend. Preferably in the North East. Thanks
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2012, 07:25:49 am » |
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Ohio Jukebox Repair has a pretty good rep.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2012, 07:33:18 am » |
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Matt, define Restoration.. If you can read a scematic, you can recap your amp yourself. veneer kits for the R used to be online, and a lot of the parts are repopped. Insert shameless plaug for motor city jukebox here
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2012, 07:33:47 pm » |
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FDNY1975
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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2012, 07:44:47 pm » |
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Happy to say I finally have my first Jukebox I held firm on my price the seller needed to have it sold by today and apparently had no other offers. It's a beauty and the boss let me put it in the main living area not down the basement with the rest of the "stuff". My back is happy about that! Humm now i have to look for a Seeburg C to keep it company.
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2012, 08:06:06 pm » |
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Welcome to the club! And congrats on a great first machine
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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2012, 08:23:11 pm » |
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Now put the 44 in the other corner for balance in the room! Nice juke.. would like to get one someday! congrats!
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« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2012, 07:09:38 am » |
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Congrats,
I was up until 1:30 getting my unrestored Seeburg 100B mech to work. Im almost halfway there.
BC
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« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2012, 08:28:52 am » |
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Nice Juke !!! Since Your Looking For a C model Don't forget the W model Best to get them All
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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2012, 09:25:02 am » |
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Looks great .. love that model.
I have an all original G that works great .. but would love an R
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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2012, 09:45:16 pm » |
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I like it. Love the fact you've probably owned it less then 24 hours and you're already talking about buying another. That's when we all here know you caught, "the bug."
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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2012, 09:50:51 pm » |
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By looking at the side of the box it's quite possible that Glenn Strope of Blue Moon Jukeboxes did the restoration. I know that he used to do the sides with 2 different color laminates. TFJ
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FDNY1975
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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2012, 10:10:21 pm » |
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Tom, I actually don't know who did the restoration but thanks for the info I will have to look into that.
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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2012, 08:27:06 am » |
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Glen does some very nice work.
BC
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2012, 02:36:56 pm » |
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Very verry nice. Great buy ! By the way, thanks for finding that Stoner Theatre for me !
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2012, 03:57:33 pm » |
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Tom right you were Glenn did in fact do the restoration. Good call on that.
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