Cavalier C5 power problem

[johnieG]

Haa! tell that to Coke! every Vendo monster machine I've ever serviced doesn't have a line cord GFCI. & our local bottlers wont install their macines on a GFCI outlets, out of curiousity, I pulled into a local wally-world store with a row of vending machines, not a GFCI in sight, (but they could be on a GFCI circut breaker I guess back at the main panel.)

hmmm looks like catch-22

[Creighton]

So a cord like what is on a powerwasher would meet code? Where would I find them rated for vending machines? Always replace the wiring anyway, might as well do it right.
Thanks, great thread!!
Creighton

[SquareTopCollector]

Electric powerwashers have them built in the plug. Home depot sells a power strip for 29.99 that has a built in GFCI

[bubba]

Thinking back on my wiring, I have 2 machines plugged into GFCI circuits. I had trouble with one popping the gfci once in awhile. My basement machine has never tripped it, but my older patio machine did. The new machine I have outside does not trip the breaker..

[SquareTopCollector]

on the machine you had trouble with, did you have anything else plugged into the same circuit?

[MoonDawg]

      I read the link and they defined the risk as when faulty wiring
comes into contact with a "grounded plumbing fixture". Bathrooms
and kitchens etc. certainly have grounded plumbing fixtures using copper
pipe so we can understand why they require special electrical breakers!
     But outside rainwater or lawn sprinklers are not grounded.
     What's the big fuss if a Coke machine gets wet?

     I've been sellin' old Coke machines for 20 years and ain't never had
the lack of a GFCI hurt anyone!  I doubt if I will change my ways now!

                                   

[SquareTopCollector]

I agree moondawg. Our first house was built in the 50's and didnt have GFCI's and I am still here today.

[hytwr1]

From EC&M magazine 11/1/04

Bill


422.51 CORD-AND-PLUG-CONNECTED VENDING MACHINES
Because of three recent deaths, a new Code section requires GFCI protection for cord-and-plug-connected vending machines.

Cord-and-plug-connected vending machines manufactured or re-manufactured on or after January 1, 2005 must include a ground-fault circuit interrupter as an integral part of the attachment plug. Cord-and-plug-connected vending machines not incorporating integral GFCI protection must be connected to a GFCI-protected outlet.

Author's Comment: This change was driven by three electrocutions since 1995; two of the victims were children who touched the energized metal parts of a vending machine. Because electric vending machines are often located in damp or wet locations in public places, and are used by people standing on the ground, reliance on an equipment grounding (bonding) conductor for protection against electrocution is insufficient.

[Camel24hrs]

I have both of my uss12-96 machines are plugged into GFCI circuts and I do not have a problem with either one of them.  I had a friend that lost his life to a refigerator with a short in it.  I would not think of plugging a vending machine into anything that was not on a GFCI.  You might want to try replaceing the GFCI breaker with a new one as I have seen them go bad before. 

[scalebowler]

Does this mean that I should not have my pepsi machine pluged into a power strip? I have had it in there for 2 months now and it seems to work.