Freon substitute

[90grad]

All,

Is there an acceptable substitute for R-12 to avoid the high $$ of a conversion or a certified R-12 technician?

[MoonDawg]

R-134 is a substitute for R-12, but there is no substitute for a certified technician.  We don't do this stuff ourselves.

[90grad]

Glen,

I agree.  Luckily, my brother works in the HVAC field.  I haven't talked with him about the machines yet and wanted to get some potential info before I did.  He works on the commercial end rather than the residential stuff.

[Skeleton Man]

What about R-409 ? (which I beleive can replace R-12 without any change)  I thought R-134 required conversion ? (ie. replace oil, seals, etc)

[MoonDawg]

Yes, I stand corrected.  Thanks Mr. Bones

[Skeleton Man]

Any time MD '>

[vend_dr]

I have had very good luck using R416a as a direct replacement for R12 in my vending machines at work.

[Skeleton Man]

Cool.. literally !