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Does anyone know the ebay username Restorick?? He is who bought my Victor and on the ebay auction it said it needed to be paid in full within 3 days unless prior arrangements have been made and it sold 5 days ago and I haven't heard anything from him. He has 674 feedbacks with 100% positive. I have sent a few email sand I am just hoping nothing has happened to this person. I am sure he is legit since he has such a high feedback and I sure don't want to be the one to tarnish this reputation so I was wondering if anyone knows him. I am hoping there hasn't been a car accident or anything like that.

Or if you are a lurker on the site if you don't want the machine please contact me and we can work something out. I don't want to hurt your ebay rating or cause any problems. If you pay the ebay fees for the auction I will not report a non paying bidder claim but doing so is the only way I can not have to pay the ebay fees. I can be contacted at jdloman2000@yahoo.com.

Other than that if anyone knows this person please either get in touch with him or send me his info.

He is the guy (I think) on Pawn Stars that changed the V-39 into a Cav-72.
He is in Las Vegas

http://ricksrestorations.ning.com/

Yep that's him! He is a great guy! Talked to him before more than a few times and bought a cup machine and some compressor's from him. Give me a few days, I am sure he is really busy. He would not leave you hanging.

Brian

 Maybe He Thought It was A  VMC RC 81  :laugh: :laugh:

LOL

better yet he might take the victor and make it in to 2 vmc rc's

I'm sure it will be transformed into several upright machines!

maybe he had to run down and pawn something to pay you  8)

I just saw the dude on pawn stars.

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:

Did those guys from pawn star pay him, If they did then Rick should be able to pay you Josh  :laugh: 8)

Still no response to emails and no contact. This is weird!

Write him a message saying Friday you will file a non-paying bidder report with eBay unless you get a response.
Have you tried calling him? A phone number was listed on the website I posted.
Give him 10 days - that is plenty of time - and move on with the necessary actions.

Yes, he's not any better than those other freeloaders you run across on ebay................

Almost day 10 and still no contact!

If you sent him a note, with enough time to respond, then  it's time to pull the trigger.
I hate being the bad guy,  but it doesn't matter who  the buyer is, you set the terms of the sale, by bidding he  agreed to those terms, you've tried to contact him, he hasn't responded.  You may be a swell guy Josh, but you're still out the money

you can initiate a non payment complaint with ebay, if he contacts you and you two rewsolve it you can always retract it.

       Can you contact the second highest bidder and accept his bid?
Tell him the high bidder was a flake!

Because he was not paid by the fine fellows at Pawn stars  :biggrin: or  it could be  BLA BLA BLA  BLA BLA !!! Sorry all most spit something out that I should not. 8)  

I would try to call him...he has a phone number listed on his website (Ricks Restorations).

 have spoke to the lady answering the phones twice and she assured me both times that he would call by the end of the business day. Each time no response. I have sent four emails and escalated the auction with ebay on Friday and still no response. He got the deal of a lifetime. A complete 3 door embossed victor for $399. I really don't want him to take it anyway as I hopped for more money from it.

Well, if i didnt want him to take it away, i think

I would be keeping quiet, actually, very quiet!!

and let sleeping dogs..........well sleep...........!



then relist or sell elsewhere or keep it or whatever


GP

I agree but at the same time that is the game of ebay. He won it fair and square but if he doesn't respond by tomorrow I am relisting it.

 I beleave Steve Ebner at one time had him on a cash only at Funtronics so ?

I would re-list it. If you were specific in your rules for the auction and he violated the rules.......

Well he just called. I was not able to end the auction until tomorrow so it is his. He said his paypal account is frozen so he has been dealing with that and he has been trying to resolve that before he contacts me. Yeah right. Oh well.

IMO that means MO or cash only....sounds like a credit worthiness issue!
Or maybe he is a lurker here and saw he had 10 days!  :Oo:

Well atleast he called you :biggrin:

He's a businessman and should know communication is the key to any successful transaction.  His Paypal account being frozen has no bearing on whether or not to contact you.  I feel bad for you Josh, because having dealt with you in the past, I know how genuine and honest you are to deal with.  Pawn Stars antics aside, he sounds like a real tool.

Nicely said Wayne.

Thats very nice of you guys. Thank you! The only time I am not reliable is when I need a money order. I am a victim of paypal. Our sleepy town of 1,100 people doesn't have much. The post office is always out of money orders and my bank is 30 minutes away!

I am happy that he is getting it and got a good deal I just wish Rick would have handled it differently. I was a little angry on the phone with him so he knows what is going on. I told him he should start reading ebay info all the way through. He just kept saying "I have been busy man" I thought that was a lame excuse to wait so long to contact someone.

So how is payment going to be made??
I hope it arrives in a timely manner!
Are you palletizing the cooler for him or anything?

You bet it's lame.  That's the oldest one in the book.  I used to hear that from girls who were ignoring me.  I heard it more than once.  Luckily for me, the girl who became my wife never said that to me!!!  Anyway, in this case, that means he hasn't had time to:

1. Eat
2. Sleep
3. Go potty

We all know it's a load of bull, and there's no way he couldn't have picked up the phone for a 5-minute call or dropped an email (or had a staff member do it).

Okay, off the soap box.  Good luck in this Josh.  I hope it all works out for you buddy.

I wouldn'tdo a thing until the money actually shows up in your accoun.
when it's time to ship, well, aren't you also a busy man?

I told him a postal or bank money order only! HE is shipping via freight like NAVL so no crating or palletizing. It would be hard to but a victor 3 door on a pallet :) I will probably block him from further transactions. This one has been bad enough

Wonder if a Victor Kooler grill is in pawn stars future :-)
Creighton

I never thought of that! I bet there will be one in the making now. He seemed like he was bothered with buying the cooler when he called and I told him not to worry about it that I would not leave negative feedback and would resell it and it immediately caught his attention and he made it clear that he really wanted the cooler. I wonder if this will be a cooler grill soon. That would be easy for him to do since he can make a Vendo 39 turn into a Cavalier 72 :) I wonder if he knows that everyone in the Coke machine hobby is laughing at him about that.

         No, I met him a few years ago when he was delivering a 4 door restored Victor to a customer here in my area. He seems to have a waiting list for these.
         Also he wanted to buy a nice original 39 from me that day for $600.00 but I wouldn't accept a check and his ATM wouldn't give him any cash   :blush:

I need everyone's opinion should I not accept a check from this guy? Can I trust a money order or cashiers check from him? What would you all do? He did not respond through ebay so I can technically end the auction and return his check when it arrives and it would be completely legit. I am getting very worried about working with this guy. What would you all personally do if you were in my position??? Everyone please give me your opinion.

You can call and verify funds on any check or verify the validity of any money order. You can cash or deposit it and not allow p/u until funds have been credited.

You said, from the start, that you hoped for more for the item. If you're concerned that this sale may end up with you surrendering the item without getting paid for it, I'd say cancel the sale and start over; unless you don't think you can get more for it.

Steve

        Sell it to him!

        Sorry to say this but that cooler is not in real high in demand because most people don't have room for it!

I agree.  If it doesn't clear, you resell it and you're only out the time it would take to see if the check is legit. 

Hi Josh

I assume you have seen this

http://cgi.ebay.com/COKE-COCA-COLA-VICTOR-C-31-COOLER-UNRESTORED-/120610486197?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

Perhaps he intends to sell it before he gets it and will have you ship it for him...

Just curious how much did he get it for Josh?

He got it for only $399. It went for MUCH less than I thought it would sell for. I thought it would go for at least $500. Oh well you win some and you loose some.

I wouldn't ship anything until funds have cleared and show in your account. In this case cost plus shipping up front. Getting jacked around also has an additional fee. Don't understand this mentality of buying an item and expecting the seller/purchasing agent to run down payment. It is a live and learn thing but total BS in the meantime.
Rant off :-)
Creighton
 

He is arranging shipping himself. I don't have to do anything. So that is a plus. But I totally agree about waiting for payment. I have a bad feeling that I am going to get a personal check in the mail. If that happens what do you all think I should do? If it is a personal check should I just send it back to him and Keep the cooler? Or should I cash it and hold it for a certain amount of time? How long should it be held before I let the cooler go? Once the money is in the bank can they take it back if the check is bad?

It's customary to wait 10 days for a check to clear, I'd wait at LEAST that long.

I guess it depends hoe  bad and how fast you need the cash.  At this point, it's all in your hands, the bank can tell you how long it would take to clear, I've heard up to tw weeks for money orders, checks usually  less than 10 days/  
I wouldn't let the cooler go until the bank confirms the funds are in your account. ucks to be him if he has to reschedule .  He can wait for a change, maybe  modify that hot air balloon Chumley  and whats his name bought into a zeppelin

He said he wanted it picked up in the next week maximum and I don't even have a check yet. That sounds fishy. I will make him wait 2 weeks. We could use the money but its not that big of a deal. I can wait two weeks. I will not let it go for two weeks. I bet he will get pissed but oh well. What happens if his guys come to get it and I don't let it go. I bet he will demand his money back.

Call and explain the situation - that you want to make sure payment is good and p/u is available ?? days after payment arrives. If he is not going to abide by auction rules, why should you?

OK here is what you do  you put this in writing and let him know and you send it out certified mail to him
 you also send a email  saying the same thing  and you keep a copy  for yourself, Stating that you will not release this machine till the fund have cleared my Bank.  and then next you also say if his personal check does not clear and bounce you will tack on a $25 charge for that and it will have to be a cashiers check (more expensive) and he will have to wait till that
clears..  

I Josh have sold a victor 3door chest machine to Rick ________ that he has bought on EBay
and he is looking at going out side because he has stated his paypal account is frozen , So
I Have agreed to take a Cashier check or money order . and I will hold the money order or cashier check
for  ___ many day till it clears my bank.

And if he decides to send a personal check  I will hold  ____ days till it clears and if it bounces I will
tack on a $25 charge for the fees that it will cost me ..

Josh Loman

And that what I would do , at least you have something in writing  and you sent it out certified

don't let it go till you have a clear payment in hand...
He should understand after all this hassle you are leary... Who cares if he's a side show on Pawn Stars
that doesn't give him the license to take advantage of others... He's taking advantage enough of the
guys on that show....

Pat's suggestion is good but I would verify bounced check fees at you bank.  Most are higher than $25 these days.  And as far as that goes, whatever your bank charges, I would charge double that amount.  Personally, I would not accept a personal check from anyone that I do not know.  This guy is jerking you around.

When you make a deal, if something changes you need to communicate with the seller early and often and this guy did not do that.  You owe him nothing and he is wanting to close the deal outside of E-bay so you certainly have an out if you want it.

Good luck Josh!

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:

How is this. I sent this in an email,

Rick,

We spoke the other day on the phone about your payment for my Victor 3 door. I have a few issues with this transaction and I wanted to send this message to make sure you were clear. My policy when selling on Ebay is to accept Paypal only and this was very clear in my auction. My policy is also that all payments must be made within 3 days of the auction end. This was also very clear in my auction. The auction ended on 8-5-10 You first contacted me 12 days after the auction on 8-17-10. You finally called after I called you twice and sent numerous emails over the 12 days and opened a nonpaying bidder claim on Ebay. In your phone call you stated that your Paypal account has been frozen and you cannot use it. You would have to send a check and it would be sent by the next day at the latest. I specified that I usually do not accept checks of any kind as stated in the auction however in this case I will only accept a Certified Check or Money Order as a one time payment and it must arrive within 5 days of our conversation on 8-17-2010.

When we spoke on the phone you mentioned that you would have the machine picked up within one week. This is not acceptable. I checked with the bank and a money order takes a maximum of three weeks to clear. I cannot allow the Victor cooler to leave here until the check has cleared. I hope you understand. It is for this reason that I do not accept payment in any other form than Paypal. I will contact you once I have received the Money Order and it has cleared. After that you can have the cooler picked up. If the payment sent is a personal check I will return the check and resell the cooler on ebay. As you promised in the phone call I expect the check no later than 8-22-10. Once the check has cleared I will contact you to let you know that the cooler is ready for pickup.

If you have any questions or comments please call me at (XXX)xxx-xxxx

Best Regards

And this was sent through Ebay since they have a 1000 character limit.

Rick,

I just sent you a message to your AOL account. Please check your mail as this is an important message about payment and shipment of the Victor cooler. In summary, I cannot let the cooler ship until the money order you have sent has cleared. This takes a maximum of 3 weeks although it may be less. You said on the phone on 8-17-2010 that you would send the check out the next day at the latest. I must have the check by Monday the 23rd. That has given you more than enough time. The auction clearly stated that payment was to be made within three days of the auction end and Monday the 23rd makes it 15 days late. Please contact me ASAP if you will need more time and we will see if we can work something out. However if the check is not received and you do not contact me by Monday the 23rd I will resell the cooler and assume that you no longer want it. I can be reached at xxx xxx xxxx or through email.


What do you think. Is that sufficient? I would rather keep the darn thing or even sell it for less than get ripped off. I think if I do some work to it I can sell it for more than $399. Don't get me wrong I am happy to sell it to Rick however I am worried he is going to screw me. He acts like he is the pop machine god now that he has been on TV. Have you seen his prices on his website? Vendo 81A for $7,000, A flat top NARCO cooler bar for $8,500, Jacobs 26 for $7,500, WD-5 Cooler $3,200, a Vendo 39 stripped into a refrigerator for $3,500. Wow If he is actually selling these I feel really sorry for his customers.

I was always under the impression the Ebay transaction was a contract and he CLEARY violated the terms in yours.  If people come by to pick up the stuff before the chesk clears, send them away and resell it.  If he gets mad, oh well.  I know you have the integrity to send his money back (if it even clears in the 1st place) and you still have the cooler.  I'd also report him to the BBB and the USPS, because if his check is no good, he is technically committing mail fraud (using the USPS to buy something with a bad check).

What a joke!! eBay has never backed up that statement.
People win auctions cheap - seller backs out because they thought they would get more money - ebay contacts seller and they say it was lost or broken!
Oh well SO SORRY to the winning bidder!!   :veryangry:  :veryangry:

I agree, but my thought was in this case, that's what helps Josh if Rick starts getting nasty with him.  If Rick doesn't want to wait for the check to clear and starts giving Josh a load of sh-- about it, Josh has the terms of the deal to back him up.  Ebay will never take a side, but Josh doesn't need them to.

He just called me! His first statement was "Do you have any idea who I am!" I said yes I know exactly who you are. He said his paypal account was frozen because he processed several hundred thousand through his paypal this month and they froze it. He said he is sorry that I didn't get my Money in time but he has been shooting for TV every day for the past several weeks and hasn't had time to check emails or ebay in weeks and hasn't been worried about little payments like this. He is sending a cashiers check and wanted the cooler picked up the day after it arrived! I laughed and said it could be picked up three weeks after the check arrived once it cleared. He laughed and said fine and hung up.

He thinks that because he has a TV Show and because he can magically turn a vendo 39 into a Cav 72 we should bow down to him. What a Joke. After his cocky phone call I am half tempted to send him his check back and keep the darn cooler.

Josh still send it out in a certified letter to his address that way you have covered yourself, And
you have taken every messure to let him know how this is going to work , Now if he refuses the certified letter
that is his problem, and it will give you the higher ground if it come down to legal matters.



And this is not your problem that he has been shooting forever how long, who cares, this is not your problem .
and there is nothing worse that someone saying "DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM"  What a joke  so now he has   13: 50 minute of fame left then hopfully he will vanish. He is no different than anyone of us  except he his not acting very professional at all.

Tim, yeah I know I was off on the price what the back charges  at our office we charge $50   for a bounce check.

"Do you know who I am!!!!"  What a joke!  He is really full of himself and his little 15 seconds that he gets on Pawn Stars!

Processing hundreds of thousands through Pay Pal and they freeze his account???
Not very likely based on the fees that they collect on each one of those transactions.

If I were you, I would send the check back to him via certified mail with return receipt requested.  He did not close in accordance with the E-bay deal that he signed up for so you should be in the clear to re-sell the cooler.  You could include in your listing that this cooler was once "almost owned" by Resto Rick from Pawn Stars! :biggrin: 8) :laugh:  Just kidding but I could not resist!

My two cents anyway!

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:

He had time to browse eBay and bid!

Man's a to**er. Give him his cheque back and re-list it.

You should have said, "Yeah, I know who you are. You are the miracle worker who turned that Vendo machine into a Cavalier!"

Not being worried about small payments basically means, "I'm not worried about little guys like you".

This is the last message that I sent to him. I wonder what he will say  :biggrin:


Rick,

When did you send the check and how did you send it? To answer your question on the phone yes I know who you are. Your the guy that converted a Vendo 39 into a cavalier 72. I never thought that was possible or at least never saw anyone do that before. :)

You hung up on the phone before I could explain. I do not accept checks as there are too many scammers out there and paypal is the only payment method approved with ebay and the only method with protection. I will not wait for the check past Monday. That gave you 18 days to pay when you agreed to pay within 3 days. If it is longer than that I will send it back to you. If the check is here by then I will deposit the check and hold it until it clears which can take up to three weeks. If it clears earlier I will let you know. Once it clears you are welcome to pick it up at any time for a two week window. Once the payment has cleared I need the machine picked up within two weeks.

Best Regards

Josh

What a timeless statment! "Do you know who I am". Unless you have real clout, stature, position or rank, that statement is a defensive mechanism of a person that perceives themselves to be larger than they really are.

I just hope that this works out in your favor in the end, Josh.  :biggrin:

Well he just sent me an email and they sent the check by standard post yesterday from Las Vegas to Cincinnati. I told him specifically when he called that I wanted it by Monday the 23rd at the latest and he sends it standard mail???? I would at least send it priority. And who would send a cashiers  check through standard mail? Wouldn't you think you would at least want delivery confirmation?

What would you all do? I think I want to send his check back and resell it on ebay. At this point even if I make less money I would rather resell it. What would you all do. What a screwed up mess this is! I spoke to ebay and they said I have the right to refuse the payment and resell it since he both violated my requirements plainly stated in the auction and he is paying via check which is against ebay policy.

Ebay is on your side and you have done nothing wrong on this transaction. I'd just back out of this whole mess and re-sell it. You should block Restorick from bidding on any more of your eBay stuff.

He's in Vegas and you're in SW Ohio. Mapquest says it is 1,971 miles between the two. If it is more hassle than it is worth, and you aren't comfortable with how it has all gone down, send the check back and keep the chest.

Honestly, I think this is getting blown out of proportion.. Yeah, $400 is a lot of money to you and I, but not worth the guy to destroy his reputation over. It is soo easy with the internet to trash someone if they screw you over, especially if they are of his fame :smile: I don't think the guy is dumb enough to bounce or cancel a check to steal a $400 machine. If its a cashiers check, I'd deposit it and let the machine go. Yes, the communication was bad and not following the paypal rule is wrong.. So the guy is cocky, arrogant, stupid, whatever... I don't think I'd let that get in the way...

Maybe its just that I haven't been screwed over yet... YMMV

Josh  I do kind of agree with bubba  when you get the cashiers check go to the bank and have it deposited
and at the end of the two weeks let the chest go , then block Rick from bidding on your items and as more people block him he will get the hint , but then he might use one of his slackers to do the bidding for him . :oh: .
 

Ditto....you voiced and wrote your requirements...waffle on it and you'll end up looking like the flake. The check should still get to you in time via USPS Standard First Class Mail (2-3 days). Deposit the check, ship the cooler and be done with it.

Did anyone look at completed eBay auctions for the Victors - one sold for $6000 just before Josh's; however, "0" feedback seller and one bid! My bet is the guy still has it - shill bidding phisher!! :veryangry:  :veryangry:

DOn't you think a complete rust free complete working Victor 3 door is worth more than #400?

If you can attract a local buyer maybe, but IMHO - no! It is too big for the average guy and market is still soft. I'd take the $400!

 Josh maybe it might be , but you have kind of excepted the deal  when you talked to him and told him it would be a  money order  or cashiers check . now if you re-neg.  on this you will look bad,   Just cut your losses and let it go and learn from this , alot of us have learned from pass experience's  and we move on just fine .

thats the riskof selling an item with no reserve, if he was the winning bidder at that price, nothing you can do about it now.

Sorry I have to agree with Bubba on this one - I think you are blowing it way out of proportions. So the check is late big deal I have waited well over a month for a payment to arrive larger than that one and still shipped within a week. I knew less about the guy than you do but had heard of him through my main hobby so I trusted him. Yes he was late and wasbeing a a$$ by saying "do you know who I am" the fact is you do and you know where to find him should the check not clear. I don't think History channel would be to happy if he bounced a check and caused an problem I also think Rick knows who's buttering his bread right now. Remember sometimes "Life" does get in the way of things sometimes. Just my thoughts.

Enough is Enough. Let's move on.

I don't know ? If a guy acts like an a hole and gives me the run around I would tell the guy to get bent and keep it or resell it . Done deal and move on . Who gives a flip who this guy is . Just my 2 cents  :tounge:

You all are right that this has been blown out of proportion and I apologize for it. I just don't want to get ripped off. I wasn't ever really worried about making more money on it I was just really upset at the way this guy has acted and the way he has let this go on. It was not about making more money. I will take the check and let him pick the cooler up.

However there is the one big issue. I know he is not going to wait for it to clear. I will deposit the check one day next week when it arrives and I will guarantee that there will be a truck at my door one day next week to pick it up. So are you guys saying just let it go before the cashiers check has cleared? If I take the check and go through with this deal that is what I will have to do. I don't think there is any way this guy is going to wait.

I don't mind taking $400 for this cooler. Actually I am quite happy with it however I can't afford to loose the payment and the cooler. I just brought up the thought of a higher price just to see what you all thought it was worth.

The Cashiers check is from Chase bank although this is not my bank is there anything that I can do at Chase bank to make sure the check is real and will go through? If I can do that then there is no problem.

The penalties for "forging" bank check is far worse than the $400 machine.. Cashiers checks are guaranteed, aren't they?? I really don't think its a concern...

i agree with mcarter, lets move on already  JC

You can call Chase on an 800 number (usually printed on the check) - ask to verify the funds or validity of the Cashiers Check - you need to do this before depositing the check as they will ask you for all the pertinent numbers off the check (i.e. check number, account number, etc.).
If it is a personal check, they will verify if funds are CURRENTLY in the account.
For a Cashiers Check, they can verify the validity of the check. He can cancel the Cashiers Check, but not after you've deposited it.

Thanks Tom! That s what I will do.

COKEMACHINESANDMORE, I am sorry if you are bored with this conversation or something has offended you but I am just trying to cover my rear end with this transaction. If you don't like this topic just don't read it. My last question was a good question and Tom just gave me a great piece of advice that I would not have known about if I had not asked. Why be rude and say something like that?

Josh,
For what it's worth I wouldn't have sold it to him!!

i was agreeing with someone elses previous post,

 Enough is Enough. Let's move on.

do you really need to be told what to do?  man up josh!

It is time to move on.

Josh, I can understand your concerns and hopefully everyone has learned something from this. Doubt anyone is dumb enough to forge a Chase document. Get scans or photocopies before you deposit. Follow Tom's advice and you should be fine. $400 is a darn good price and who knows the truck may never show up. Please post how this all shakes out.

Creighton

Now that is a messed up thing to say. Man Up??? I was simply asking for opinions from my friends here on SMC. Topic dropped!

Josh,

If it is a Chase Cashiers Check, you should be able to cash it over the counter at any Chase bank.  They will verifiy the authenticity of the check before they negotiate it.  They may charge you a check cashing fee if you do not have an account but that might be worth it to have your cash immediately.  Just a thought from an ex-banker.

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:

Well the payment came today and everything is OK. I will cash it Monday. I am sure everything will be OK. Thank you everyone for your help, advice and support. You are all great friends!

That's VERY good news, Josh.  I am glad it worked out for you.

I know I made some people mad and bored some others with this post. I apologize to those that I upset. I also thank everyone for the help and moral support with this. I didn't know what to do eith the check  and now I feel a lot better taking the cashiers check and letting him pick the machine up.

This was my qoute, which was posted after the other two,and to be honest with you a give a rats ass if you were one of the founding members  of SMC or not,as you stated in your PM. this is an open forum and as such we all have the right to voice our opinions wether you agree with it or not. do not send me one of your little whiney  pm"s again. I said once I will say it again m\man up

Josh, I really hope you did not do that to cokemachineandmore using a founding member crap that is just as bad as
DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM crap   if you did shame on you  ,you are no better that Rick then.

 

I did not say I am a founding member. All I said was in the 7 years that I have been a member no one has said an insulting word to anyone. This is a friendly site and there is no need to be rude. If you don't like a post simply don't read it.

If you would like to please post my entire message to you. if not I will be happy to post it myself. The only reason I contacted you personally was to apologize if I offended you and to please ask that you not criticize anyone in their posts (not only me). This is an open forum and in the time that I have been a member I have been amazed at how friendly everyone is (especially to new members with newbe questions). I was never rude to you and I never flaunted that I was an original member.

Actually here is my message to you in full. Lets let everyone here see what I said to you. I never say anything about being a founding member in any way whatsoever. I only tried to explain what the topic was about and offer an apology. Below is my private message sent to you....

"What you say is true and I do not disagree with you however I was only having a conversation with my friends about the topic. I had terms written in plain words in the auction and he violated them. Ebay also has a policy that you are to contact the seller within 5 days and he waited more than 10 days before he even said anything to me about winning the auction and I had sent him several emails and called twice. That was my problem more than anything and not so much about the check. Either way none of this matters. My problem now is that I was talking amongst my friends and you interrupted and said to move on and I should "Man up"

I just don't understand what make you say that. I started the thread and I was talking to my friends about something and you said we should stop talking about it and told me to "Man up". I have the right to start a thread under General Chit Chat and talk about what I want. There was also enough interest in the topic that there were enough replies to make it to 10 pages and the only negative post was yours.

This is a friendly board and we try to be different than other boards by being nice to everyone and letting everyone ask what they want without making fun of anyone no matter what their question is. I sincerely apologize if anything I said has offended you.

I have little to no recent experience with money orders and checks. I have been watching over the past few years while I was in Singapore and heard so many stories about people being taken on check and money order fraud. All I did was ask for my friends opinion on what they would do in my situation and I got the answers I needed. Now what I want to know is why I need to "man Up" about that???"

Jesus christ, yeah that was your second pm not the first.  you stated your one of the youngest members on the site. just out of total curiosity exactly how old are you?

Whoa!

I have to agree with Josh that this has always been a forum with decorum.

You know - we are all very different people. We have businessmen, policemen, armed forces personnel, insurance salesmen, hobbyists, etc. from America and around the world – all members here at SMC. If we were to meet in daily life, I doubt we would be become friends if it were not for one common bond – soda machines! And sometimes that is all it takes to make a friend, but my grandmother used to say that she would not become friends with someone before she was sure she wanted to be friends with them. I still remember these words from her lips “It is easy to make friendships and hard to break them!” Our love for soda machines is one piece of the puzzle! We all love old coin-op items, but do we all hold the same values, beliefs, convictions, religious and political views?

I hope we are not your only friends Josh! Friends know you inside and out – know what makes you tick and tock! I consider us all acquaintances for now.

The topic of “Restorick” should have expired pages ago before it escalated to this. It was (and is) old and dragged out!
I’m going to bed – it is late here! (stepping down)

Well stated Tom!

Every once in a while we experience personality conflicts, disagreements, and/or business disputes at SMC. Most issues seem to work themselves out in the end; I, as well as the other moderators, have never had to intervene not do I intend to here; however, I would like to ensure everyone be civil while interacting in the Discussion Areas.
As previously stated, this thread has morphed into "off topic" discussion and become extremely long-winded!

On topic note:
    I recommend exercising your greebay rights especially if you state your intentions within the item description. You then have recourse for ANY buyer's actions should it be no payment, no contact or whatever ! ! !

Would like to put out a motion to have this topic ended or deleted.
 to many bad feeling are coming out of this now.

Joshes thread. His call.
Creighton

Ok! Sound good.

I totally agree. This has become nonsense. I learned what I needed in the beginning then it got out of hand. I agree that I am also to blame for that. Lets get rid of it and put it behind us. I also hope there is no hard feelings over this. If I said anything to offend anyone it was not my intention. DELETE THIS THREAD PLEASE!

I'll lock it, but I'm not keen on deleting the past.. it is what it is... If Jim wants to delete it, he can... I'll put a stop to it though....