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Trouble-Shooting => Coin Mechanisms => Topic started by: cdc1960 on February 23, 2010, 09:28:34 pm



Title: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: cdc1960 on February 23, 2010, 09:28:34 pm
Just sourced a coin mech very cheap for the V63, (10 bucks), but in the theme of "you get what you pay for", the 25c crem is not energzied at rest... the 5 and 10c one works fine... the slug rejector needs a good cleaning, but works ok for now, and I've got it set to vend for a dime.. any suggestions on what to do with the 25c coin return electro-magnet?

Thanks,

Chris 


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: cdc1960 on February 23, 2010, 09:34:34 pm
forgot to mention... the payout tubes have nickels loaded, and function...


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: collecture on February 23, 2010, 10:05:34 pm
...any suggestions on what to do with the 25c coin return electro-magnet?

Just disconnect the armature from the magnet. The mech will still vend and give change - only thing is it will always take quarters whether the machine and/or payout tube are empty.


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: cdc1960 on February 23, 2010, 10:08:58 pm
Collecture, to accomplish this, do I disconnect both wires on the crem?

Thanks,

Chris


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: cdc1960 on February 23, 2010, 10:24:30 pm
I guess that would defeat the purpose... I need to stop the finger from blocking the quarter path in the rejector, I suppose?


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: collecture on February 23, 2010, 10:35:10 pm
JohnnieG probably knows off the top of his head, but I'll take a look at mine. Most armatures are simply snapped on with a spring attached as I recall. You should be able to remove the armature and leave the CREM wired, but I'll dig mine out and let you know for sure.


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: collecture on February 23, 2010, 10:53:18 pm
Just checked my Coinco.
My quarter CREM is at the top on the right as you face the mech.
Push up on the spring steel clip on top of the CREM - press down on the armature and the back of it will lift right off and slide down under the tabs..


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: cdc1960 on February 23, 2010, 11:46:30 pm
 :jawdrop: Exactly as decribed Collecture... many thanks... removed the armature, replaced the rejector, deposited a quarter, it vended and spit out three nickels in change.. thanks again..  I guess at some point I should replace the bad CREM... appreciate the help

Chris


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: johnieG on February 24, 2010, 09:00:42 am
You can also just "nip" off the "fingers" from the CREM'S arm, this avoids the need to remove any wires, ( and as you've found out, you can also remove the whole armature assembly.) for most home/hobby uses, the CREMS are not required.


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: cdc1960 on February 24, 2010, 11:19:35 am
Thanks guys... any concern with leaving a faulty CREM with votage applied indefinitely?


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: johnieG on February 24, 2010, 11:57:47 am
being that it's an open -circuit, it should'nt present a problem, but you never know if it will short-out due to movement and/or handling, so I'd disconnect & tape the connector ends just to be sure.


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: cdc1960 on February 24, 2010, 02:17:55 pm
Thanks, will do... out of curiosity, does anybody stock a replacement CREM? 

Chris


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: johnieG on February 24, 2010, 05:33:08 pm
Nope, you'll have to buy one used, unless someone has some new-old-stock to sell, I have them (used) & I'm sure others do too ($5.00) & it would be best to post a picture of the crems in your mech.


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: cdc1960 on February 24, 2010, 09:14:53 pm
John,

here's a pic, the 25c CREM has the armature removed....

Chris


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: johnieG on February 25, 2010, 11:16:00 am
Yep. it's a standard mid-series '9800/B 'mech.


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: cdc1960 on February 25, 2010, 08:05:28 pm
Thanks John, pm sent.

Chris


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: johnieG on February 25, 2010, 09:06:12 pm
got it..


Title: Re: coinco S75-9800B Question
Post by: cdc1960 on February 26, 2010, 06:27:25 pm
so, new problem... the mech won't stop energizing the vend selenoid every few seconds... open and close a gate, and it will energize the selenoid again, two or three times... unplugged the mech for now.... you really do get what you pay for...

Chris