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Author Topic: Westinghouse WC-102-MD evap fan motor  (Read 18338 times)
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darktone
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« on: November 21, 2007, 06:29:44 pm »

Hey guy's where can I get this fan motor? I really don't know much about these- they must be pretty universal right? thanks!
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« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2007, 06:46:53 pm »

Hello, there are people on this web site that can sell you what you need.
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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2007, 08:21:52 pm »

Thanks for the info. I was wondering if I could just run over and get one from the Maytag store or som e place like that.  Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2007, 08:27:47 pm »

    A refrigeration supply house will carry them, WW Graingers too!
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2007, 04:05:22 pm »

The only thing you need to watch is how the motor attaches to the bracket.  Westinghouse machines often used a two-piece motor.  The stationary piece mounted to the bracket, which was curved to fit the motor.  This is no big deal for the condensor fan, but it is a problem for the evap fan.  I have a WB-102 and had to make a new bracket for the unit bearing motors around today.  The reason for this was the evap fan mounted above the evap coil.

The attached photo shows the original mount (without fan blade).   I bought a triangular motor mount (from Funtronics) and made 3 new motor mounts.  If needed, I can take a photo of the new set-up.
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2007, 07:26:17 pm »

That would be great if you could take a picture- thanks!
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2007, 08:44:53 am »

Here is the new set-up.  I had to buy:

1. New fan motor (from a local HVAC store, but you can get one from Funtronics)
2. Triangular fan mount (from Funtronics)
3. New fan blade (from Funtronics).  I had to get a new blade, because the pitch of the old one was too large for this mounting configuration.  The new motor mounts lower than the old one, so the old fan blade hit the evap coils.
4. Some nuts, bolts, and washers.

I made the 3 motor mounts.  I bought a piece of flat bar aluminum stock from Home Depot (about $5), cut it and bent each on a press brake at work.  I was able to use the original motor bracket as a template for the measurements for the bent portions.  Most of the holes were already drilled into the evap shroud.  I had to drill one more and then drill holes in the mounts to match the triangular motor mount.
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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2007, 01:04:38 pm »

      That's pretty clever Wayne! 
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2007, 09:25:38 pm »

nice set up. I might just have to do something like that. Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2007, 09:50:49 pm »

That is slick Wayne !   Cool

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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2007, 11:28:09 am »

Pretty innovative Wayne!
What prevented you from making the brackets taller to accomodate the original fan blade?
Less work to get the replacement fan?
Bottle stack in the way?
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2007, 01:34:19 pm »

Tom,

There is a cover that goes over the entire evap shroud.  So, it would've been tough to figure out how much vertical space I had to play with.  I figured the cost of a new blade would probably be less than the cost of aggravation. laugh  Plus, the original blade was a 3-blade and was nearly as wide as the coil.  So, exact placement of the fan motor would have been critical so as not to cause the blade to strike the sides.  With the new fan, a 5-blade, I didn't have to be as critical, since the diameter was smaller.  However, I can still move the necessary amount of air due to the increased number of blades.
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Vendo 110 (1957)
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2007, 04:59:37 pm »

I kind of figured as much, but I have only vague knowledge of the Select-a-matic Westinghouse machines. I had a trashed WB-78 (pushbutton model) dropped in my lap a while back. Someone before me had butched up three of the columns in the bottle stack with a 'saws all' and nabbed the vend motor, and then I got the lightup assembly, both fan motors and mounts, the selection panel assembly, some switches, most of the back spacers, all of the bezels/chutes. I did not pay the closest of attention, but I seem to recall there was not a lot of space between the evap assembly and the stack. I put basically a shell with a butchered stack in my driveway by the alley and somebody grabbed it in a week or two!


In Phoenix here, we have what is called a 'Bulk Trash' pickup - 4 times a year we can put most anything in the alley (couches, large amounts of yard waste, etc.) and the city will pick it up. The 'Bulk Trash" schedule is staggered, so I am sure it is active in some part of the 'Valley of the Sun' all year long. We have people (that live here in Phoenix) who just drive around collecting discarded items in their truck before the city truck gets there. No doubt to go home and have a garage sale.
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S-48 DP
Ideal CC 35, Barq's 55
1930s DP Counter Cooler
Vendo Coin Changers (ea. style - orig w/ stand)
Vendo Junior (rest.), 23 Deluxe, 39D, 44, 56RT, 80SS, 81A (orig), 81D, 6 C.V.
VMC 27, 27A, 81D DP, 110 DP
Westy WC-42-T, WC-44SK, WD-5(2), WB60
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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2007, 02:00:02 pm »

Wish we had the Bulk Trash thing here.  It's a pain sometimes trying to get rid of things. 
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Cavalier 51 (1953)
Cavalier Airline Cooler
7-Up Picnic Cooler
Vendo 110 (1957)
VMC 56 Bottle (1964)
VMC 56 Can
Westinghouse Master Water Bath Cooler
Westinghouse Standard Ice Cooler
Westinghouse WB-102 (1963)
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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2007, 02:09:21 pm »

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It is nice to have! I have had to go to the dump probably twice in the 15 years we have lived in this house!
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Cav 27, 33, CS-55E-2, 72
S-48 DP
Ideal CC 35, Barq's 55
1930s DP Counter Cooler
Vendo Coin Changers (ea. style - orig w/ stand)
Vendo Junior (rest.), 23 Deluxe, 39D, 44, 56RT, 80SS, 81A (orig), 81D, 6 C.V.
VMC 27, 27A, 81D DP, 110 DP
Westy WC-42-T, WC-44SK, WD-5(2), WB60
Victor C-14
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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2008, 08:35:34 pm »

Pardon my ignorance here. I have the WC-102-MD that I use all the time, but recently quit working. I found that the fan motor was shorting out and tripping the circuit breaker. I found a place called soda jerk works and bought a replacement fan. But it is different. This is the fan that is near the motor/compressor at the bottom and blows over the coils in the back of the machine that are on the outside. It is a two piece motor, but the new one is not. I thought about drilling new holes in the bracket to match those on the motor and I bought new blades as well.
Again, my ignorance here, is that the condensor or evaporator fan motor. I can attach a picture if that would help.

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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2008, 08:47:30 pm »

The fan down by the compressor is the condenser fan motor...
inside the cooling compartment is the evaporator motor.
Unsually they are interchangable.
Can you post a pic of your mount?
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Cav 27, 33, CS-55E-2, 72
S-48 DP
Ideal CC 35, Barq's 55
1930s DP Counter Cooler
Vendo Coin Changers (ea. style - orig w/ stand)
Vendo Junior (rest.), 23 Deluxe, 39D, 44, 56RT, 80SS, 81A (orig), 81D, 6 C.V.
VMC 27, 27A, 81D DP, 110 DP
Westy WC-42-T, WC-44SK, WD-5(2), WB60
Victor C-14
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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2008, 09:21:46 pm »

Thanks for getting back so soon. Here are two pics. One of the old motor and mount and the second is the new motor.
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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2008, 09:40:33 pm »

That motor was used on a lot of Westinghouse machines - the whole back half spins!
Steve Ebner at Fun-Tronics might have an original, but it will be costly - $100 or so.
I's fabricate a different mount with a new generic motor unless you really care about originality.
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Cav 27, 33, CS-55E-2, 72
S-48 DP
Ideal CC 35, Barq's 55
1930s DP Counter Cooler
Vendo Coin Changers (ea. style - orig w/ stand)
Vendo Junior (rest.), 23 Deluxe, 39D, 44, 56RT, 80SS, 81A (orig), 81D, 6 C.V.
VMC 27, 27A, 81D DP, 110 DP
Westy WC-42-T, WC-44SK, WD-5(2), WB60
Victor C-14
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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2008, 10:34:46 pm »

No, I'm not overly concerned about originality, I just want it to be functional. I know these models aren't the highly desirable ones, but I like it because that's the type I remember as a kid. I actually stock it with cans and it works just great. Keeps them at about 35 degrees. I think I may modify the mount I have to accept the motor I bought and drill 2 new holes for the mount. Not being inside a framework gives me a little more freedom.
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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2008, 11:53:12 pm »

Let me look...I might have (or somebody else here) an extra fan motor mount. They are all about the same height - worse case scenario is you would drill two accomodating holes in the compressor plate if the originals location doesn't work.
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Cav 27, 33, CS-55E-2, 72
S-48 DP
Ideal CC 35, Barq's 55
1930s DP Counter Cooler
Vendo Coin Changers (ea. style - orig w/ stand)
Vendo Junior (rest.), 23 Deluxe, 39D, 44, 56RT, 80SS, 81A (orig), 81D, 6 C.V.
VMC 27, 27A, 81D DP, 110 DP
Westy WC-42-T, WC-44SK, WD-5(2), WB60
Victor C-14
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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2008, 08:48:05 am »

I do have an extra...PM me your mailing address and I'll get it to you.
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Cav 27, 33, CS-55E-2, 72
S-48 DP
Ideal CC 35, Barq's 55
1930s DP Counter Cooler
Vendo Coin Changers (ea. style - orig w/ stand)
Vendo Junior (rest.), 23 Deluxe, 39D, 44, 56RT, 80SS, 81A (orig), 81D, 6 C.V.
VMC 27, 27A, 81D DP, 110 DP
Westy WC-42-T, WC-44SK, WD-5(2), WB60
Victor C-14
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