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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2007, 07:49:34 pm »

When I talk to my customers about quality brazing, this is what I refer to as bird-Chit soldering, his propane (plumbing) tourch must have been a tad to cold eh?
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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2007, 11:26:53 pm »

SOLUTION:  Scrap or send the system to Eric, Get the right system that works, pay the money and start enjoying your cooler. Probably not what you want to hear, but from the sounds of it. You may go crazy and or broke just trying to fix it? I have gone through something similiar... in the end my replacement cooling system cost me near double of what I should have paid. ':<img:'>  '<img'>
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2007, 12:07:24 am »

First of all thanks for the advice. Secondly '<img'> CRAP! '<img'>. Now that it's out of my system... The system did cool as low as 32 degrees but it's aways run long and the cut-in and cut-out temp never worked well.  Even now, it runs for a very long time (hours) and the compressor gets hot but not burning hot (like my cavalier did before I replaced the t-stat).

Now for more of my questions:

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The condenser coil is a small coil...1/6 to 1/8 size

I would go with a small 1/5 or regular 1/6 set up with the correct cap tube size and length. A larger condenser coil will give you more capacity and cooling ability.

Run it a couple of days, adjusting the charge to where it needs to be, preventing "flood back" to the compressor, head pressure (not too high), good amps, cycle times, etc..


The condenser coil is 9"W x 9"H.  Will a 1/5 or 1/6 HP compressor work with this condenser?

Do you see something in the pics that make you think the cap tube is the wrong size?

In terms of cutting out the oversized compressor - I would cut at #1 and at #3 if the cap tube and drier were ok. But not sure where the cut for the hot line would be - 2a or 2b?

And probably the easier question what would a new / refurb'd compressor cost?  compressor + condenser? compressor + condenser + coils?
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2007, 11:04:49 pm »

Eric would you recommend a low temp compressor, like maybe a AEA1332YXA 1/5hp with a new cap tube to match on this unit?
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2007, 02:49:35 pm »

We don't want to use a "low" temp compressor in a med temp system, different displacement size.

What people don't realize, the systems are built for a specific application...low, medium, high, low back pressure, high back pressure, r12, r134, r404, r22...etc.

I give a lot of advice on this site. I give my best ideas, and thoughts. It may not be the cheapest, but it's what I feel is the best from my experience. I can't teach refrigeration over the internet. All I can do is offer the best of my abilities. So here it is...

As stated as before, replace the lower unit, replace the stat and bracket, check the evaporator coil for leaks, clean the oil residue using a solvent, install the unit, pull a vacuum and charge.

My job, my methods, my experience, doesn't involve just trying to piece together a bad unit that someone else butchered. Not just yours but everyone's. You can't even imagine the number of phone calls, I receive, from people who have this very problem. Fix it right...the 1st time.

Again...I'm not the cheapest....but I have been in business over 18 years. You be the judge.

Give me a call if you wish to order the parts.
 
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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2007, 03:58:02 pm »

As much as it hurts... And I know it hurts (broken compressor on 56)
you have to go with the man who knows what he is talking about. Bite the bullet.
Get it out and down the tip. Get a new one in.

Eric - I for one (and I know there are many others) appreciate all the free help and advice.
Living thousands of miles away you are never going to make any money out of me but have always helped with issues I've had before.

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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2007, 03:51:01 pm »

Thanks Dave...

It's not always about the money as you, and others on this board, know.

Hey, never say never...I have  customers in Yokohama, Japan...
Sydney, Australia...Moose Jaw, Canada...Honolulu, Hawaii.

We do alot of shipping and get a pretty good rate.

See ya!

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« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2007, 06:00:23 pm »

Wow.. shipping to Sydney, Australia (or anywhere in Oz) must've cost a pretty penny..
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« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2007, 08:01:40 pm »

I didn't pay for it. We did 40 Dixie Narco units Boxed and stacked
on 2 pallets. Shippped to California about $300 then they were loaded into a container with other soda machines and various parts. I have no idea what a container runs but I'm sure it wasn't cheap.

What I've noticed, is that here in the States, we have access to so much more in the way of machines and parts than in other parts of the World. Japan for example, the hot thing is early Americana.
Soda machine, refrigerators, gas pumps, signs, baseball, you name it. His web site is www.the-true.co.jp check it out.

We really have it good around here!

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« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2007, 09:33:53 pm »

You guys definately have it good..  Me being in Canada I managed to find what I needed for my machine..  but as Vossy demonstrated, back in Oz it's a different story.. everything is harder to come by and hence more expensive..

On that topic..  does anyone know if Coinco mechs are used outside the US/Canada ?
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