Ideal55 refrigeration system specs?

[cvb141]

I'm not familiar with the slider and was not sure if it worked like a cold plate and got cold around the outside of the box and required using a low temp comp. The pics made me wonder how it worked and what kind comp it used,  since I didn't see any evaporator fans.
Jerry

[globalcompressors]

No problem Jerry.

It is forced air on the lower condenser. The static cooled evaporator is like your "cold plate" style of cooling. The problem is,
someone has come in and done a "hack" job with no reguard in wanting it to work right...just to make a quick buck!

Remember, everything we have, in the soda machine relm, is medium temperature, roughly 20-50 degrees. High temp is above 50 and low is down as low as -20F usually frozen food, ice cream, etc..

I really does make a difference in which compressor is used. Some compressors require a "start kit" for high start torque, low temp, expansion valve, commercial, things like that. Low start torque, usually means medium and high temp/cap tube application. Cap tube allows pressure to equalize slowly once the compressor shuts down. Now throw in the different type of freon used. Some develope higher head pressure, some run in a vacuum once temperature is reached which causes another problem, back pressure to cool the compressor. Some of the windings require "sub-cooling" to keep the motors cooled down during running. Some compressors don't need it. (Everyone taking notes?) You really don't want to know this stuff do you?

It really just pays to do the job right the first time. I enjoy helping others, but...I have to make a living too.
I try and answer all the questions I can, making it possible for my customer to make an informed decision
in what's best for them. I know it sounds "sappy" but it's true...I wouldn't be on this board if it wasn't!

Eric '>

PS...Jim, can I have "extra" credit for these really long answers, on my "Soda Jerk" status?
Man, my fingers hurt!

[cvb141]

Thanks for the info. More than I needed though. I have changed compressors on small dorm size refrigerators that uses a cold plate style evaporator and a low temp compressor. Not knowing anything about this unit, I wondered if it was maybe like the small refrigerator. Then again I have changed compressors on milk boxes that freeze around the inside also, that use a high temp compressor. Good to know the soda machines use a medium temp.  I'll give you a break for a while, so your fingers can rest. Really, I do like reading your input on any of the subjects of refrigeration.  Jerry

[globalcompressors]

Thanks Buddy...



Eric '>

[BryanH]

I wanted to thank everyone that offered advice... With your help I knew what key words and experiences to look for from a technician. I sent a bunch of feelers out on Phoenix craigslist and found a local guy that used to have his own business repairing these machines (as well as many other refrigeration / cooling systems).  After talking with him I was pretty sure that I could trust him with my slider.  '>

Well I picked up my slider from a local guy and I'm happy to say that it's working like a charm.  Machine is loaded and running as cool as 32F and cycles on and off like it's supposed to.   '>

Thanks again!

[globalcompressors]

Awesome!


Eric

[cohammer]

I brought this back to try and find out if the dryer placement on my 35 slider pancake compressor would be the same as this compressor that is shown by Eric?

[johnieG]

Originally Ideal 35's & 55's didn't have a filter/dryer, they had what was called a "strainer" which is a small diameter stainless-steel and/or bronze screen about as round as a pencil eraser in the little "bulb" on the line that exited at the bottom of the condenser coil that line then is brazed onto the capillary line which feeds the high-pressure liquid freon up to the evaporator coils in the tank.

the filter dryer shown ( some people refer to it as a copper hot-dog or cigar) in earlier photo's in this discussion were added after the system was "repaired"

But to answer your question, yes, if you have one or are going to install one, then it will go at the bottom of the condenser coil and you will then couple it to your capillary tube, pay attention to the flow-arrow on the body of the dryer, the freon leaves the condenser, flows through the filter, then enters the capillary tube.