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						| jasmine64 | 
								|  | «  on: November 13, 2005, 11:24:15 am » |  | 
 
 I have the lids apart on the Cav 22. Having the darndest time loosening the sheet metal screws. If I can drill them out what will I need to start with?
 The flat head slots are so thin that anytime a screwdriver is placed in it, to turn the screw it splinters the screwhead. Can I grind them down from the back then drill it out?
 
 Need advice.
 
 I really want to get working on these next week.
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						| sodaworks | 
								|  | « Reply #1 on: November 13, 2005, 05:04:16 pm » |  | 
 
 Jasmine,Have you tried to cut a deeper groove in the head with a dremel tool.
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						| sodaworks | 
								|  | « Reply #2 on: November 13, 2005, 05:07:46 pm » |  | 
 
 Cut a deeper groove then insert flat blade screwdriver, give it a couple of light taps with a hammer. Spray on some penetrating oil and let it sit a couple of minutes. |  
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						| jasmine64 | 
								|  | « Reply #3 on: November 13, 2005, 06:32:10 pm » |  | 
 
 Yep tried that the material the screws are made of is so thing it breaks off in pieces.
 Thats why i thought drilling it out would be an easy thing to do.
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						| firemun 
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								|  | « Reply #4 on: November 13, 2005, 07:28:01 pm » |  | 
 
 Since you did not mention that you had tried this, I will throw it out there.  Put your screwdriver in the screw and hold it tight and give the screwdriver a sharp hit on the handle with a hammer.  Then start putting a little turing pressure on the screw in the direction to loosen and keep hitting with the hammer.
 Also make sure you soak them good with something like PB Blaster.
 
 Jeff
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						| loman4ec | 
								|  | « Reply #5 on: November 13, 2005, 08:58:51 pm » |  | 
 
 If you can get to the back side of the screw you can try using visegrips to loosen it. |  
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						| Lulu 
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								|  | « Reply #7 on: November 14, 2005, 07:27:59 am » |  | 
 
 I had some screws that were rusted solid.  I ended up grinding them off from the back and used a punch and hammer to knock them back out.  Depending on how much clearance you have and the size of the screw, it may not work in your instance.  Good luck. |  
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						| L Hunter 
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								|  | « Reply #8 on: November 14, 2005, 06:29:17 pm » |  | 
 
 Hello, with my two Cav 22's I have had good luck with PB Blaster then I heat them with a propane torch to break them loose.  Be careful the PB Blaster it will ignite if you leave very much around the screw.  I have often considered pitching the lids and replacing with a counter top and making a bar out of the whole thing, but as Kennedy said "We do this not because it is easy but because it is hard", or something like that.
 Larry
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