Would like value and more info on cavalie css-8-64

[Pixel]

Hello,

I'd like to know a little more about my Cavalier Coke Machine. The coin door label say its a CSS-8-64 P, made in July 1977. (Date is given as 7-77, maybe it's a good sign.)

It doesn't have the standard roughly 85% red 15% white two tone sides like the ones I've seen on the net. Instead, the sides are painted white with a red "Enjoy Coke" square painted (not a decal) in the center near the top. It seems quite likely the sides and part of the front have been repainted. The paint job isn't the worst in the world, but it's not stellar either and needs a touch up.

The trays are all present, except for maybe a couple of clips. I do not know whether the vending system works because the bottle vend gates will open all the time. S75-9800A coin mech is missing lower rear cover and isn't in the best shape. Do not know if it works, though plugging it in will activate the C.R.E.M. relays. Cavalier decal at the bottom is mostly torn off and chrome bottle opener bezel is missing.

The reason I bought it is that it cools and doesn't do a bad job of it. I've got it partly stocked with cans now. I know it's meant to vend glass bottles, but I can't keep getting ripped off by paying +$3 for a 6 pack of 8 oz. glass bottles. If my Choice Vend cooled, I'd likely have cans in it instead.

Anyway, any idea as to what the Cavalier might be worth? What I'd really like to know is, what's the difference between a CSS-8-64 and a CS-64. For that matter, what difference is there between a CSS-64 and CSS-8-64? What does the "P" signify? Is there a chance the mostly white sides with painted Coke square is an original color scheme, even though this machine is probably
repainted?

Sorry for all the questions, it's just the Cav model numbers are available on the net, but very little info about what those numbers say about the machines.

An answer to any of these questions would be appreciated.

[loman4ec]

Ok There are several different versions of the cavalier 64's The first starting somewhere in either 1959 or 60 with the C model.This is the res and white version that you are thinking of.  I have attached pics to show what I am talking about. This would be the first picture. The first picture is an early machine but it is an E model. The C,D,E,and F models are similar looking except for a few cosmetic differences and are painted in red and white. The production of the Cavalier 64 series ran late into the 70's. In the mid to late 60's Cavalier came out with the Css-64 G series. This is when they changed from the red and white. They used several differen't paint combinations through the years. The second pis is a 1968 (I think) stylestar css-8-64G. Move down to the next page and I will continue.

[loman4ec]

The next picture is an early to mid 70's Cavalier 64G. I have honestly never heard of a P model but I am sure it looks alot like the G model. Cavalier painted these in several ways. Some were all white and some were even brown. I have had several USS-64's that are just like you are describing yours with the small painted box at the top. As far as I know all Cavalier 64's are CSS-8-64's. SOme people just shorten one s and call it the CS-64. The CSS means Cavalier Slant shelf. The 8 means that it vends 8 different selections, and the 64 means it will hold 64 6.5 to 8 oz bottles. The later model 64's are not generally worth alot. It depends on condition and completeness and if it works. I would say somewhere between $75 and $250 depending. But these later model 64 restore up really nice. Just an example is the frosty rootbeer machine I made about a year and a half ago. It is a later cavalier 64G model and was origionally Coke and red and black.

[globalcompressors]

Nice job on the Frosty. Looks great!
 
Just a quick thought. On the later 64's, the twist type despenser will do bottles and cans verses the older, bottle only, "gate type" machines.
Maybe worth a little more, doing both? Just thinking of it being more practical.

Eric '>

[loman4ec]

Yes the USS 64 will vend both bottles and cans. They were made in the early to mid 70's through the early 80's. They actually don't take as much money as the CSS-64's I guess it is because of their size. Here is a before and after of a USS-64

[Lulu]

Thanks for the info Josh.  I've got a machine like the one in the first picture.  Someone had removed the ID tag and I wasn't sure what I had.

[Pixel]

Thanks for the info! '>

(Somebody removed the id tag on my Cav as well, but I was able to find the model/serial number on a large metalized sticker on the inside of the little coin box door.)

loman, the Coca Cola USS-64 you showed, the sides are painted like I thought mine would have originally been painted, before you told me about the different paint schemes. I didn't have pics of mine when I first posted, but I do now. They're pretty large (dimension wise) so heads up.

As far as functionality goes, I'd rather have a USS because it will vend cans.

The biggest things missing on mine are the key, coin box and cap catcher box.

Also, I've been told the compressor may not be original.

Can you tell me where I can get some Cav parts, like the chrome bottle opener bezel and brand decal for example? I tried emailing VEII a few days ago, but so far they haven't answered.

Thanks again.

[jasmine64]

Makes me want to go out and find some more squaretops.

Got to get the Coca-Cola chest up and running first.

[Pixel]

Quote (Pixel @ Nov. 08 2005,5:29)

loman, the Coca Cola USS-64 you showed, the sides are painted like I thought mine would have originally been painted, before you told me about the different paint schemes.

To clarify, this is the USS-64 out of the ones you showed that I had in mind.



My Choice Vend has sides painted similar to this with the two-tone stripes, I guess that's partly why I assumed my Cav was originally painted that way at first.

[loman4ec]

Correct and so is the one below it in my post before. Actually they are the same machine. It is a before and after. The USS-64 was never painted in the red and white of the early 60's because it was made in the 70's but the buyer of the machine wanted it painted to look like an older machine. Here is a before and after of another USS-64 that I restored to the older look.