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« on: February 27, 2015, 07:15:59 pm » |
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With all the stamping and cutting/welding I hear about with machines, is there still a real reliable way of determining if a restored VMC Royal Crown 81 is in fact a real machine? I don't mind fantasy machines, and I think all of the soda collecting is neat, but I want a true original rc. but in searching for an original with no luck, I am now looking at a restored one I found. Any help is greatly appreciated!
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Brian
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mznb1u
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« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2015, 09:29:35 pm » |
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The only way to be sure is to remove the door liner and peel back the insulation to see if the embossing is original or welded in. With the price that those machines go for, any seller of an original should be happy to oblige qualified buyer.  Tim |
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coke_and_stuff
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2015, 04:49:24 pm » |
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Just by pulling the door liner back to expose welds will not guarantee a authentic machine. The "Clone" on ebay has been welded up and bodywork done on the inside. All VMC RC 81s had the early large vent cabinet as they were early built machines, They also all had red bottle door gaskets. from the homework that I've done. They were built in 1956. As the Slogan "Better taste calls for RC" is embossed on the machine. That slogan was introduced in 1956 and in 1957 RC had a update and changed their colors from yellow and red to red and white and introduced the diamond logo. Also on fake RC 81s you have to look at the circled R or registered stamping, Some do not have this, others have it but they are wrong or poorly copied. This picture is the Correct embossed Registered Logo.  |
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Collector of nice original paint machines
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Marvin
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2015, 09:42:53 pm » |
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The circled R on my Pepsi 81 is very dim. I think media blasting and painting wore it down a bit. So I wouldn't write one off because the symbol is light.
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Lincoln22
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2015, 10:36:48 pm » |
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Thank you all for your input. I appreciate it greatly.
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Brian
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coke_and_stuff
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2015, 11:57:06 pm » |
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The Circled R is different from a Pepsi than a RC. The Pepsi is more flat and wider, the RC more bold and tighter, I will post pics tomorrow.
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Collector of nice original paint machines
Vendo 81 B, C, D
VMC 81 Pepsi, 7up, RC, Generic
6CV Coke, RC, Pepsi
VMC 110 RC
Vendo 39
Jacobs 26
Mills 47
Selectivend 64 7up NOS
Plus 30-50 parts and project machines
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johnieG
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2015, 03:06:36 am » |
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a simple magnetic dye test will revel any welding no mater how well concealed.
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001...  Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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coke_and_stuff
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2015, 06:05:06 pm » |
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You can see the difference in the two. There are several RC 81s out there with the R in question.   |
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Collector of nice original paint machines
Vendo 81 B, C, D
VMC 81 Pepsi, 7up, RC, Generic
6CV Coke, RC, Pepsi
VMC 110 RC
Vendo 39
Jacobs 26
Mills 47
Selectivend 64 7up NOS
Plus 30-50 parts and project machines
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« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2015, 01:02:45 pm » |
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Great thread, with lots of usefull information for any prospective RC-81 buyer. I think any buyer should have a checklist of what to look for before laying down the money for one of these machines. As mentioned above, pulling the door liner and checking cabinet vents, bottle door gasket color, and for the embossed R. etc. should be part of any pre-purchase inspection.
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MoonDawg
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« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2015, 01:28:15 pm » |
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There are not enough of us who are faced with this tough decision.  |
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