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« on: April 30, 2013, 03:43:13 pm » |
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I have narrowed down my problem to the magnet shown below on left. Is this a part that anyone may have or know how to repair. This is from a Mills 47N and I'm not sure if this is specific to this machine, which I'm sure it is or if there is another machine that uses the same one. This magnet pulls up a lever that forces coin to be accepted when machine is full of bottles and in service. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Seth
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« Last Edit: April 30, 2013, 03:49:37 pm by sc1101 »
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Creighton
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2013, 04:27:19 pm » |
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Looks the same as used in EM pinball machines. Larry or Brent may be able to help with replacement source.
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Larry
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2013, 04:32:25 pm » |
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I'm not sure where you would pick up Mills coils from. You mention the magnet. I assume it's the coil that you are talking about? There is also a magnet there in that silver cylinder. At least it looks like one.
Why do you think the coil is bad? Did you put an ohm meter on it?
Pinball resource has a lot of coils, but if you do not have a coil number they pretty much wont help you.
If it's just the coin reject you don't need it to work. Disable the piece.
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« Last Edit: April 30, 2013, 04:36:24 pm by Larry »
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A lot of stuff.
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johnieG
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2013, 04:34:04 pm » |
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It's a 120Volt Coin-Reject-Electro-Magnet (CREM) which as you've discovered rejects all coins when the machine is either empty (or out of proper change if so equipped) . I agree an EM pinball solenoid coil would be your best bet... Fun fact...did you know that if you power up a line-power solenoid coil without an Iron core in it that it will burn open in a mater of seconds? Now you do..So DON'T!!!  |
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001...  Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2013, 04:38:13 pm » |
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sc1101
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2013, 08:08:32 pm » |
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Thanks for all the help. I wasn't quite sure what to call it I just know when it isnt magnatized a lever holds a pin in place which makes coins reject. When I manually hold the lever up as if the magnet is holding it, the coin goes to coin box and vends perfect. So I first checked to make sure power was being sent to electromagnetic coil when machine was full and it was. I then powered the electromagnetic coil with direct power to see if it moved the lever and pin. It did not move. So I came to the conclusion it is bad. I'll need to make something similar with new parts suggested.
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« Last Edit: April 30, 2013, 08:22:08 pm by sc1101 »
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Siphonmix 5A
Jacobs 56
Surevend P47
Mills 45,47N,65
La Crosse 56
Glascock Countertop
ICY-O Cntrtp Cooler restored
ICY-O 120
Liquid Carbonic Back Bar
1890 Fletcher, 1940 Fischman Fountains
A-8, A-12 Industrial Carton Cooler
Holcomb+Hoke Popcorn
Mengel Wood Cooler
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2013, 08:48:17 pm » |
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Why not tie the lever up and out of the way? So what if the machine doesn't reject coins!
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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2013, 09:37:51 pm » |
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Glen, That would work just fine. I was just trying to get it back to original working condition. Thought it would be nice to do so. I may end up doing that though as a last resort. Thanks for the help.
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Siphonmix 5A
Jacobs 56
Surevend P47
Mills 45,47N,65
La Crosse 56
Glascock Countertop
ICY-O Cntrtp Cooler restored
ICY-O 120
Liquid Carbonic Back Bar
1890 Fletcher, 1940 Fischman Fountains
A-8, A-12 Industrial Carton Cooler
Holcomb+Hoke Popcorn
Mengel Wood Cooler
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2013, 09:57:02 pm » |
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You're on the right track!
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001... Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2013, 10:16:16 pm » |
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Thanks for the words of encouragement. LOL  |
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Siphonmix 5A
Jacobs 56
Surevend P47
Mills 45,47N,65
La Crosse 56
Glascock Countertop
ICY-O Cntrtp Cooler restored
ICY-O 120
Liquid Carbonic Back Bar
1890 Fletcher, 1940 Fischman Fountains
A-8, A-12 Industrial Carton Cooler
Holcomb+Hoke Popcorn
Mengel Wood Cooler
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