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« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2005, 12:23:05 am »

Quote (sandbag23 @ June 14 2005,1:41)
Is there any simple way to safely wire BOTH free play and a working coin mech at the same time?

Sure is. Just wire to the exposed wires under the Jones plug. All your doing is tripping the relay,
doesn’t really matter if you do it with a switch or coin mech.
Here’s what I did, I wanted to vend soda the usual way but have one column (button) for beer.
I wired a micro switch and stacked it on top of the selection button micro switch and
adjusted the timing so the selection switch would click before the relay switch. This setup
would vend free beer at the push of a button (pay for pop, but free beer. I always said it was
to keep from bootlegging).
As it turned out, the grandkids got the hang of playing with the beer button and I would find
my workbench full of beer that I would have to put back into the machine.
Now what I have is a remote car starter wired in by way of a relay. The remote start unit is 12v
so I took the 24v from the coin mech and ran it to one of those voltage reducers from JC Whitney
for 24-volt systems using 12-volt accessories in old cars. The antenna is hid behind the tag in the button.
If I want a beer I just press the start button on the remote. I have had lots of fun with this setup!
No more benches full of beer getting warm.
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« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2005, 04:34:21 pm »

I recently bought a Cavalier CS64C and the wiring block I have doesn't look like the one in these diagrams.

Instead of "slots", I have a solid block with labeled colors on it (blue, yellow, purple, etc.) with corresponding wires.

Has anyone set one of these up for a free vend, and if so - how?

thanks a lot!
Casey
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2005, 09:58:39 pm »

Hello

I made the momentary switch jusdt like in the diagram above, i found it holes 4, 7, and 8 dont seem to have any receptacles in them. Looks like it is the way it is made. Also switch seems to work just fine with only prongs 1 and 3 plugged in.

What is the exact purpose of plug 7? Am I in danger if I dont use it. I would like to hook the coin box up again while having the option of pushing the "secret button" for me and the wife.

Thanks again for any help:D

Hank Swank
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2005, 08:56:00 am »

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I recently bought a Cavalier CS64C and the wiring block I have doesn't look like the one in these diagrams.

Instead of "slots", I have a solid block with labeled colors on it (blue, yellow, purple, etc.) with corresponding wires.

Has anyone set one of these up for a free vend, and if so - how?

thanks a lot!
Casey

If you could provide a picture of the connector it will help in identifiying it.  ':<img:'>
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« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2005, 08:59:32 am »

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Hello

I made the momentary switch jusdt like in the diagram above, i found it holes 4, 7, and 8 dont seem to have any receptacles in them. Looks like it is the way it is made. Also switch seems to work just fine with only prongs 1 and 3 plugged in.

What is the exact purpose of plug 7? Am I in danger if I dont use it. I would like to hook the coin box up again while having the option of pushing the "secret button" for me and the wife.

Thanks again for any help:D

Hank Swank

Pin #7 in the Jones connector (female socket) is generally used for a vending stack switch, that provides the coinmech. with a "ready to vend" signal, it may or may not be used on your machine, especially if yours is equipt with an additional vending relay (typically used in multi-button machines) it depends on which machine you have (which you didn't mention)




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Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes.
Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon!
The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p
Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor
11 is louder than 10...
"Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan.
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« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2005, 07:18:00 pm »

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Quote (hankswank2002 @ Nov. 21 2005,9:58)
Hello

I made the momentary switch jusdt like in the diagram above, i found it holes 4, 7, and 8 dont seem to have any receptacles in them. Looks like it is the way it is made. Also switch seems to work just fine with only prongs 1 and 3 plugged in.

What is the exact purpose of plug 7? Am I in danger if I dont use it. I would like to hook the coin box up again while having the option of pushing the "secret button" for me and the wife.

Thanks again for any help:D

Hank Swank

Pin #7 in the Jones connector (female socket) is generally used for a vending stack switch, that provides the coinmech. with a "ready to vend" signal, it may or may not be used on your machine, especially if yours is equipt with an additional vending relay (typically used in multi-button machines) it depends on which machine you have (which you didn't mention)

Here is machine. I dont know much about these things.

http://www.soda-machines.com/cgi-loc....432;r=1
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« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2005, 12:00:37 am »

Hi Fellow pop fans,

I just got a late 60's or early '70's Vendo 156-276, I have worked in the vending world ten years ago, and I am a little rusty with the machines. I tried the free play setup on this machine and it worked once or twice. Is there anybody out there that knows about these machines? I need some help here.

Marc
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« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2005, 12:35:55 am »

Welcome onboard Marc!
Other than to suggest to post a pic of the coin mech and power cable I can't help. Someone with more knowledge will.
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« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2006, 07:19:07 pm »

Hi gang,

I figured out what the proplem was with my Vendo 156-276, for free vending. unlike the older machines in which you have to eather pull out the bottle or drop the can (or bottle), the coin mech holds the solonoid in  untill the cam rotates 10 deg. or so and vends. I just kept hitting the button, and the machine would vend, but if I held the button for one sec after I made my selection, it would vend like a dream. So for you newer machine owners, try holding the free play button for a second after making your selection it should work.

Marc
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« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2006, 02:58:01 pm »

Quote (tarps2 @ Oct. 10 2005,5:34)
I recently bought a Cavalier CS64C and the wiring block I have doesn't look like the one in these diagrams.

Instead of "slots", I have a solid block with labeled colors on it (blue, yellow, purple, etc.) with corresponding wires.

Has anyone set one of these up for a free vend, and if so - how?

thanks a lot!
Casey

What you described sounded familiar.   If I am correct, that is somewhere at the bottom of the bottle door in between the door and the actual body of the machine.  If that is the case, then you should still have a jones plug near the coin mechanism (or where it should be) If you lift up the metal piece where the exterior coin slot is (it shoud be on a hinge that is locaed just under the sign)then the plug should be under their (at least it is on my machine)

Hope that helps
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