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Author Topic: Ideal Slider -- cooling, then not cooling  (Read 30566 times)
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2007, 08:48:45 pm »

That is a bad looking kink.  Work carefully that will break very easily with that dimple in the middle     Try just a little pressure on the top and bottom of the kink and see if that helps.   Good luck...
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2007, 09:16:08 pm »

Thanks guys.  I'll wait it out until the weekend and give it some time.  I would hate to try and rush through it.

UPDATE (30 minutes later):Well, I couldn't wait for the weekend.  I swung the compressor out and did what I could with the kink (pictures below).  I didn't want to put too much pressure on the tubing and where the kink is situated makes it difficult to maneuver.  I now have the machine on and we'll see what happens.  Can anyone tell me how the metal piece on the thermostat should be positioned?  I'm wondering whether I have it on the highest setting or the lowest when the bigger metal piece points towards the 11.

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Ideal 55 Slider - Coke (1st machine) - gift for father
Ideal 55 Pepsi (single dot) - almost finished restoring
Ideal 55 7 Up - need to pick up
Ideal 55 Generic - at my parent's
Vendo 110 - currently restoring
Vendo H63C - cleaned up and operational
Westinghouse Cooler - Collecture MADE ME buy
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2007, 10:11:43 pm »

picture of the thermostat
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Ideal 55 Pepsi (single dot) - almost finished restoring
Ideal 55 7 Up - need to pick up
Ideal 55 Generic - at my parent's
Vendo 110 - currently restoring
Vendo H63C - cleaned up and operational
Westinghouse Cooler - Collecture MADE ME buy
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2007, 07:44:30 am »

I ran it again with the changes I made to the kink with the exact same results -- cools and frost starts on the inside of the cooler, but by morning there is nothing.  What time of freon do these compressors take?  Any suggestions in replacing the freon that I should make a refrigeration mechanic aware of?  Any idea on what I should be looking to pay?
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Ideal 55 Slider - Coke (1st machine) - gift for father
Ideal 55 Pepsi (single dot) - almost finished restoring
Ideal 55 7 Up - need to pick up
Ideal 55 Generic - at my parent's
Vendo 110 - currently restoring
Vendo H63C - cleaned up and operational
Westinghouse Cooler - Collecture MADE ME buy
aspbear1
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2007, 06:47:47 pm »

R-12 Freon and the tech will have to tap into the line but he should be able to handle the problem.  Prices vary, when I busted a line on mine it cost 105.00 to repair the line and get the freon replaced...but like I say it varies.  Ask them for an estimate.
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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2007, 06:49:28 pm »

you did a good job on getting the kink out.  That was a bad one.  To bad it did not fix your problem....
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2007, 07:31:07 pm »

Thanks aspbear1.  I wish I could take credit for doing something, but I just put my hand on each side of the kink and gently pushed (and preyed).  I have a guy a refrigeration place coming tomorrow that says they have R-12.  My thinking is that they probably have R-12a, which from my reading I guess I don't want to use in this compressor.  Is it true that I can use R-414B "Hotshot"?
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Ideal 55 Slider - Coke (1st machine) - gift for father
Ideal 55 Pepsi (single dot) - almost finished restoring
Ideal 55 7 Up - need to pick up
Ideal 55 Generic - at my parent's
Vendo 110 - currently restoring
Vendo H63C - cleaned up and operational
Westinghouse Cooler - Collecture MADE ME buy
aspbear1
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2007, 07:56:47 pm »

I really stay with the R 12,  I have heard that the hot shot will work.  Also I have a friend that had 409 put in his but I just dont think it feels the same as R 12.  It may just be me.
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2007, 07:25:08 am »

Is R12 still available?  I absolutely don't want to use R12a, right?  Anyone else have experience with using R-414B?
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Ideal 55 Slider - Coke (1st machine) - gift for father
Ideal 55 Pepsi (single dot) - almost finished restoring
Ideal 55 7 Up - need to pick up
Ideal 55 Generic - at my parent's
Vendo 110 - currently restoring
Vendo H63C - cleaned up and operational
Westinghouse Cooler - Collecture MADE ME buy
aspbear1
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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2007, 08:19:54 am »

R 12 is still available.  It is a little expensive but your machine should only require less than one 12 ounce can.  I have never used the 414
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