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dprat1
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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2006, 06:33:15 pm »

Thanks for all the replies. I think Lulu is seeing my problem also. I came to the conclusion that there must be different bracket sets. My machine is a white top from late fifties. It is my understanding that they went to a white top to promote the "Ice Cold" saying. I'm wondering if they used a larger cooling coil in these for extra cold soda and used a different or modified lower bracket to accommodate it. Anyway, it is no longer a problem. Being the impatient person I can be and against advice, I have modified the bracket to fit. I did however, beef up the bracket on the backside to strengthen in the notched area. I think it will be fine. Am still curious though as to the difference in machines. My daughter finally returned my digital camera and I have attached pictures.
Thanks everyone,
doug
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« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2006, 06:35:52 pm »

another pic
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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2006, 07:10:12 pm »

Glad you are up and running. Machine looks great!!
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2006, 08:17:37 pm »

Dprat,
I look today for the drain.....And sorry to tell you i didn't have one. But i will keep looking.
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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2006, 06:11:03 am »

Doug,

Nice looking machine.

I'm not good with names of parts, but the difference in the machines is that the one with the short cooling coil has a
condensor '<img'>? on the outside back of the machine that has a large metal sheild covering it.  The one I have like yours doesn't have that.  Maybe someone else can put this in the correct terminology.
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2006, 09:24:56 am »

Doug,

Sorry for the delay!

I know you've resolved the issue and this is a mute point; however, I'm still a little foggy on the evaporator size...
Was this machine complete when you disassembled it?
Perhaps I missed something, but if this was a complete machine with the exception of the new compressor, how come the evaporator extends lower than the lower spindle bracket...? Did you acquire parts from another machine to make this complete...?
I only have reference for the older 51 version and it shows the spindle bracket below the evaporator.
Are you sure the evaporator is mounted correctly; it looks as if it could go up a little so it won't extend below the cover...
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2006, 11:18:05 am »

Lulu,
The inside coil is the "cooling unit coil" and the exterior one is the "condenser coil". The later C-51's had an "all in one" drop-in unit compressor with condenser below the the machine. Apparently, the cooling coil was different too.

Jim,
My machine did not have any of the interior spindle brackets or bottle belt. I had to track these down. I have attached some "before" pictures to help. My compressor was shot so I sent the cooling coil to Eric of Global and he married it to a new compressor/condenser unit,, so I could not change that easily now. The interior cooling coil could not be moved up because of the fan. Sooner or later we will figure the differences out as it may be helpful to others later.
Jim, is it possible to move topic to "pre 60's" area? I mistakenly posted it "post 60's". Maybe more C-51 guru's there?
Thanks again.
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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2006, 11:21:14 am »

interior "before".
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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2006, 07:39:56 am »

I'll get some pictures of the two machines I have and maybe we can figure this out.
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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2006, 12:45:49 pm »

I haven't had the opportunity to compare the different versions of the C-51 with regards to the refrigeration systems... Interesting though.
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