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Author Topic: Krylon "rust tough" vs rustoleum "hammertone"  (Read 26758 times)
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2005, 12:00:01 pm »

Eric,

What was the recommended curing time on the Hammertone finish and did you let the shelves cure for this time period prior to putting into use...?
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2005, 05:55:55 pm »

Eric,
What would you say to FedExing me a gallon of bilge sludge, I sure do need a fix....been a few years!

Boy, I can say without a doubt, that's definitely one thing I don't miss about underway time, the NASTY  '<img'>  stuff they/we called coffee!!!  '<img'>

Oh yeah, please let me know the name/e-mail address of the very first FSA to work in the Chief's Mess onboard USS Farragutt....I would like to let him know that he should make sure that ALL coffee mugs should be kept super-duper A.J.-squared away with NO caffine deposits. That will surely win him many friends! '<img'>

I'm really looking forward to the results of your test. I've been using either powdercoating or Cold Galvanizing spray w/ two coats of clear and have had pretty good luck. Maybe I've been using an inferior product this whole time. Could you also include your actual cost? That would be cool also.

Maybe you could paint a whole machine haze gray using Formula 150 as primer, and also make sure to paint it one half at a time using tape to clearly demarcate what side is wet so that people know which side to lay their skinners on to mess up your job..... and use non-skid for the top to prevent people from placing items on top (see 'Kito) Yeah....that sounds like a good idea.... ':drinkers:'




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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2005, 06:10:11 pm »

My money's on the Hammertone.... due to the glas/resin/whatever else is in the mixture of that paint...
Great Idea.
I just had all my shelves to my 81 & 72 zinc plated... Still want to clear coat them... But that hammertone
paint looks so good I am tempted to paint over the zinc (it would be a double protection for sure)
Those look Awesome... I love the texture it leaves and it's hard to screw up the finish unless you just
spray in one spot till it runs... This is the paint I used on my blue and green gumball machines.
Tough paint!

Again thanks for doing this for us.

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« Reply #13 on: June 11, 2005, 06:16:52 pm »

Jim,
Rustoleum doesn't provide a cure time on the cans, merely minimum time between coats and minimum time for handling.  both times assume 70F and <50% humidity.  Recoat in as little as 15 minutes (dependent on local temp/humidity conditions), up to 2 hours or after 48 hours.  Can be handled after 90 minutes.  Due to the 76% humidity in my area, I waited just over 4 hours before placing the shelves in service.  The Krylon has near identical time frames to the Rustoleum.




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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2005, 08:33:51 pm »

I just wanted to make sure both products where cured according to the manufacturers specs...
In all fairness, the Hammertone finish should be a more durable finish provided the correct curring time has been obtained. In some cases, the curring time can be an extended time as compared to paint products. This allows the glass finish to rise to the surface ensuring a glossy/hard surface which protects better than a typical paint product...
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« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2005, 10:11:30 pm »

Jim,
In truthfullness, I fully expect that the hammertone will prove to be more durable but I've also had great luck with the Krylon Rust Tough products.  I've been trying to think of a controlled experiment that would allow both paints to be subjected to the exact same environmental conditions at the same time for side-by-side comparison and thought the shelf test would fit the bill.  Can't wait to see how this one pans out!
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« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2005, 03:20:44 am »

Eric,
Thanks for spending your time on this!! Nice work on the test outline as well. Looks like you have a couple of great helpers :-)
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« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2005, 06:28:31 pm »

Yeah they're my little "elves".  Their older brother likes to help too when he's not in school....might be able to turn this into a family business...who knows? ':p'

Thanks for the vote of encouragement.  My only fear is that I'll inadverdently do something without thinking to nullify the controlled factors of this test.....you know drop the jackhammer currently sitting on the machine onto one of the shelves during the monthly inspection. '<img'>  I doubt Kito would forgive me! '<img'>
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2005, 05:13:53 pm »

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If you have any questions/comments not answered by the proposal, feel free to e-mail me!

Just to make it more complex and time consuming.... what about Hammerite paint?
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2005, 06:56:03 pm »

Dang, Bryan........Right when things were going all good and stuff..... '<img'>  That's a good question though. They don't carry Hammerite in my area and I've heard/seen results from different people here and they all sound pretty happy with the results.

Personally, I think I might make the switch over to Hammertone.....Unless of course Powdercoating becomes free!! '<img'>




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