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« on: September 07, 2018, 03:05:05 am »

Gday from Down Under.

(this machine was previously posted in Estimated values, but I want a more general discussion)

So I have an Australian (yes that's a thing) Coke Vendo 56 Square-Top machine (7 shelf).  While Coke machines are a lot more common in the states, here in Australia when Coke decommissioned these machines, they were usually either scrapped, or converted into standard shelf fridges with welded over vending doors and everything removed from the coin mech area, along with the coin door.

It took me 6 years to find one in this state that was fully working with all pieces present.  The myths behind this type of machine was that when they went out of service, some were "given away at staff raffles", others were "rescued"  from being parted out for spares and then scrapped.  For years people who sold the vintage machines would often say they got it from someone who worked at Coke, or from someone who got it from someone who worked at Coke, or from someone who got it from someone who got it from someone who worked at Coke etc.

Technically, these machine are not meant to exist any longer in Australia.  Which is why they are so damned hard to find, especially in working condition, no missing parts, and pretty much all of its paint and signage.  I could weep at the times I checked American Ebay and saw so many vintage and retro machines I remember from my childhood.   darn  Hell, one guy on these forums bought a machine for $40.  I mean, seriously  Oo

While the Vendo ID plate, is missing, the Compressor has Vendo tag.  The thing is, this machines looks more like a Vendorlator than a Vendo 56.  However, since Vendo and Vendoraltor merged in 1956, they were technically Vendo's when they landed here in Australia.  Also, these machines would have been rebuilt by Coke once or twice.  There are signs that the current paint job was not its original, and I have been told the "Enjoy Coke" logo was done by Coke in the 80's.  There is no raised metal "Vendo" or "Vendorlator" lettering like I have seen on other square 56's, but that could have been removed at some point.  The Coke technician I met recently told me they at times they had to rebuild these machines, as back then it was considered wasteful to buy a new machine and throw away what could be repaired.

Also, the Australian machines have at least one thing American machines didnt have.  They had change givers that plugged into the coin mechs here, that gave out 1, 2 and 5 cent coins when set correctly (metal tubes next to the coin mech).  However by my childhood (80's), we just had to use exact change in 20 cent coins (metal sticker above coin slot).  My machine is currently set to 80 cents.


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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2018, 02:13:21 am »

So today was a good day  happydrinkers

The outside of the machine washed up a treat.  Some automotive wash & wax and microfiber cloths, and the Red Box looks awesome.  So much so that the patina only serves to emphasize how good the Red paint is.

Next, I purchased an 2nd hand Vacuum cleaner from a local pawn shop for $29 (AUD).  Since this machine had been sitting in a shed for a number of years, there was a bit of detritus (crap) in the compressor deck area more minuscule stuff in the fridge.  I think I lucked out as once I had cleaned all the refrigerator deck up, none of it seems corroded through.  It taps out as solid.  Bit of surface corrosion to polish up, but that's doable.  Now that most of the crap is gone, can use some compressed air cans to clean up the harder ares to reach and the compressor/evaporator fins.

Fridge area was easily cleaned up of dust and some cobwebs.  Bit of solid dust buildup to clean off on the bottle liner, but again I lucked out with the liner.  Its in excellent condition, except for some white build up (scale?) on the sides.  The shelves needs a more rigorous cleaning, but again doable.  Places like FunTronics do replacements, but original is my goal as much as possible.  Hell, even the metal drip tube is still there and original drip tray.  Oh, and original coin box and crown cap catcher is all there.  I've seen more than a few machines where all that was missing.

The bottles rack also needs a clean.  Looks like someone tried to clean up a cokexplosion over the years, but again nothing is rusted up and all the gates work. although I need to lube them up.  Anyone know best way how, what to use?  help

All this is going to be done by removing nothing except the bottle shelves from the machine at the moment.  I am not setup to remove parts, and I lack the confidence to do so.  There is no one local I have found so far who could help me if I went too far.  down

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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2018, 11:19:08 am »


 I am not setup to remove parts, and I lack the confidence to do so.  There is no one local I have found so far who could help me if I went too far.  down


       You are the perfect candidate to learn by doing. Every one of us had the same fear at first but these early machines are very simple to disassemble and put back together. If you have a question just ask us.
       This is only your first machine, from now on they will start following you home.  happydrinkers
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2018, 11:52:40 am »

Just visited your site MoonDawg.  You do very nice work.

Right now i am hoping all I will have to do for a while is cleanup the machine. I fully accept that I overpayed for it, but its so damn hard to find them in this country,  and even harder to find locally, and what was hardest was finding one that was working with all its parts and nearly all its original paint intact.
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2018, 12:37:06 pm »

What is the exchange rate AUD vs USD ? So we can compare what you paid vs what we pay in the US.
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2018, 07:09:54 pm »

What is the exchange rate AUD vs USD ? So we can compare what you paid vs what we pay in the US.

$1,208.53
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2018, 07:31:43 am »

So I am thinking of buying 1 or 2 of these, and using magnets to attach them to the sides of my Coke machine to get more of a 3D effect, but not be permanently attached.

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« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2018, 07:48:34 am »

Could someone give me a crash course in how these machines are meant to run?  Is the condenser fan always meant to run etc?  I thought it was, but someone told me thats not a good thing?  Or is that for modern fridges?

Oh, and what is that bulb thing in front of the condenser?  It freezes over and melts off every so often.  Is that normal etc?

Yes, I really know jack about the technical guts of these machines  help

EDIT:  It does get cold though, between 0-3 degrees using infrared laser thermometer.
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« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2018, 02:10:46 pm »





            Oh, and what is that bulb thing in front of the condenser?  It freezes over and melts off every so often.  Is that normal etc?

  It's called the receiver & it holds excess liquid freon/refrigerant,  once the evaporator coils gets down to temperature some of the gas wont evaporate completely & the receiver
 holds it inside that cylinder (bulb/ copper sausage/take your pick) .. until it can return to a gaseous form so it doesn't return to the suction side of the compressor as a liquid & damage the inlet/suction valve or piston because you can't compress a liquid , yes it is normal for it to frost up or even ice a bit & melt as the compressor cycles, however is the icing proceeds down the suction tubing past the receiver & continues outside of the bottle compartment this can lead to the machine piddling melt water on the floor & is typically due to an overcharged system or a stuck thermostat or an evaporator fan failing.  or even a possible blocked evaporator coil ( no air flow)

If the icing reaches all the way back to the suction inlet of the compressor you'll have more trouble as mentioned above.
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2018, 02:33:10 pm »




            Oh, and what is that bulb thing in front of the condenser?  It freezes over and melts off every so often.  Is that normal etc?

  It's called the receiver & it holds excess liquid freon/refrigerant,  once the evaporator coils gets down to temperature some of the gas wont evaporate completely & the receiver
 holds it inside that cylinder (bulb/ copper sausage/take your pick) .. until it can return to a gaseous form so it doesn't return to the suction side of the compressor as a liquid & damage the inlet/suction valve or piston because you can't compress a liquid , yes it is normal for it to frost up or even ice a bit & melt as the compressor cycles, however is the icing proceeds down the suction tubing past the receiver & continues outside of the bottle compartment this can lead to the machine piddling melt water on the floor & is typically due to an overcharged system or a stuck thermostat or an evaporator fan failing.  or even a possible blocked evaporator coil ( no air flow)

If the icing reaches all the way back to the suction inlet of the compressor you'll have more trouble as mentioned above.

No icing outside the bottle area thank goodness.  I think i will focus some more attention on the condenser though.  Still has some crud in the fins.   Had focused most of my efforts on the compressor.   I get some airflow though the fins, but a lot more airflow  out the top/back of the condenser.
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