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« on: August 01, 2016, 09:13:34 pm »

Hi all!  I'm new to soda machines, and this site, so I thought I'd introduce myself.  I recently picked up a Cavalier CSS-8-64J (Built 7/73) from OfferUp. I’ve never had anything like this before, but I’m having fun getting into it and learning how it works. I know these aren’t the most in-demand machines, but I like it.

I got it pretty cheap because the guy didn’t have a key for it. Everything lit up that should as far as I could tell, there’s no rust, and it does get cold, so I went for it.

Of course the first thing I did was pick the tubular lock to get into it. I was hoping there’d be a number on the back end so I could try to track down a key, but there was nothing. So, I need a new lock. I downloaded the manuals and read through them. That’s how I learned there is actually a light in the door. Mine was burned out, which made that the only thing that didn’t work. I discovered what so many of you already know, that it’s very difficult to get that little bulb in or out.  I managed to get the old one out, but I had my son, with his smaller, 10-year-old fingers put in the new one. He wants to be my helper in getting this machine up and running, so it should be a fun project for us.  I put in a C7 LED bulb, but it isn’t very bright. I’m going to see if I can find a brighter LED for it.

The coin mechanism was jammed up with coins. Once I cleared the jam, it all works like it should. I collected 72 cents and a Chuck E. Cheese token. Ha!

The “Correct Change” and “Select A Drink” lamps work as they should too. Everything is very dirty/dusty (it’s been kept outdoors for at least a little while before I got it), but the paint is in pretty good shape. A few chips here and there. It does have the wood grain panel, which is sun bleached and peeling and trashed. No big deal there. I see the consensus here is to delete the wood grain, but I kinda like it. It’s right for the period, which is partly why I like this machine. I was three years old when this machine was built, so it reminds me of my childhood. It’s just for me (and my family of course), so at this point, I think I’m going to reapply wood grain. (My son said he likes it too Cool ). Based on others I’ve seen, I’m assuming the lower panel below the coin door had wood grain originally, but it has been removed and is a fairly clean black space now. I’ll probably make that area red to bring some more red to the front of the machine.

So, that’s me, introducing myself here. I have a couple of questions, but I’ll include those in separate posts in this thread.


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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2016, 09:14:31 pm »

Questions:

I’m going to order a Cavalier badge decal. Were these always decals, or were they originally a metal/enamel nameplate of some kind?

Before I go prying and prodding, is there a trick to removing the bottle opener and change bezels from the coin door?

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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2016, 11:27:07 pm »

Welcome to the forum!  Great starter machine, sounds like you got a good deal on the machine, nice to get one that just has a few minor fixes.  I have had several of the same machines and they are great. 

The badge was a decal for the most part on these, you can pick them up here: http://www.fun-tronicsllc.com/index.php?crn=353&rn=1202&action=show_detail

The bezels have metal tabs that fold back around the metal of the door, I use a long shaft thin flathead screwdriver from the back side to get the tabs moving forward, usually you just need to get one side popped out and the other will slide out.  You don't want to move the metal tabs too much as they will crease and break off.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2016, 03:49:10 am »

Welcome! Nice machine. Haven't done it but always thought it would be cool to use a nice real wood piece of vener to replace the contact paper.

Ask away on any questions. Soda machines tend to multiply so starting thinking about where to put the next one :-)
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2016, 05:32:55 am »

Welcome to the site! That chuck e cheese token seems like pure profit Smiley
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2016, 10:21:44 am »

       If you open the main door you will be able to remove 2 screws that hold the light bulb socket in place.

       Welcome to the site but beware..........there are more machines coming your way!  help

       Thought you might like this machine that the Coca Cola company had us customize as a gift to an important client in Vegas.
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2016, 02:31:18 pm »

Hello, and welcome to the site.

Congrats on the Cavalier. My first working machine was a Cavalier like yours, and I love the cooling system. Be careful with the electrical system, as far as I know it's pretty much all 120V@60Hz. Best to power down the machine when working on electricals.

A good check over the wiring before you run it full time would be a good idea.  NOTE: One potential problem area (but not the only one) is the rubber sheath that carries wires from the cabinet into the door to power the coin mech and lights. This sheath will often have a hard kink in it. (I don't know if this is a design issue, or something that develops over the years.) On our CSS-64, the rubber at this kink has worn in two. With the machine unplugged from electricity, you could check this area for wear, and see if you can tell if their are problems with the wires there. Things like worn or missing insulation on the wires.

I have not studied this problem on other brands, but I know it happens on Cavaliers.

I think the wood grain goes pretty good with this particular style of painting - sides predominantly red, with white stripe and decal.

You have a lighted marquee (Enjoy Coca-Cola sign in upper right corner), always a plus. From internet pictures, most of the Cavalier machines I have seen of this era have lighted marquees, but occasionally you will find on with just a painted metal (non-lighted) marquee. The lighted marquee uses a fluorescent ballast. Be careful with the ballast - it draws 120V directly from the wiring, and the windings may not be insulated. You can get bulbs for the light, I'm not entirely sure of their specification. I have a problem with the bulbs burning out in ours every couple of months, not sure what's wrong. I recommend you leave the machine unplugged for awhile when changing the bulb. Beyond the potential shock hazard from trying to change it while the machine is plugged in, a bad bulb left in the socket with the machine powered up can get hot enough to burn you when you touch it.

A machine like yours is a good way to get into soda machines. You can find good deals on them in working condition. Quite a few parts are available. Even if a part isn't handy new, you can find junk machines with good, compatible parts. They are much simpler in function than "punch-button" machine, making the vending system relatively easy to repair.

I myself am like you, a relative newbie when it comes to collecting soda machines. The members here have been extremely helpful.
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2016, 06:32:56 pm »

Welcome to the forum!  Great starter machine, sounds like you got a good deal on the machine, nice to get one that just has a few minor fixes.  I have had several of the same machines and they are great.

I got a tremendous deal. He had it listed for about 4 months before I saw it. First was asking $90. Then $75. When I asked if he still had it, he said yes and I could have it for $60. I figured $60 would be worth it even if I ended up parting it out.

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The badge was a decal for the most part on these, you can pick them up here: http://www.fun-tronicsllc.com/index.php?crn=353&rn=1202&action=show_detail

Thanks! That's where I found 'em! :-)

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The bezels have metal tabs that fold back around the metal of the door, I use a long shaft thin flathead screwdriver from the back side to get the tabs moving forward, usually you just need to get one side popped out and the other will slide out.  You don't want to move the metal tabs too much as they will crease and break off.

Thanks for the info!
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2016, 06:38:33 pm »

Welcome! Nice machine. Haven't done it but always thought it would be cool to use a nice real wood piece of vener to replace the contact paper.

I'm considering it. My dad suggested that too. We'll see.

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Thanks! I know how that goes.  I think this will be it for a while. We're thinking of moving out of state, so we've been in purge mode lately. I got this because it was enough of a steal my wife will still speak to me. hehe...  On the other hand, I do keep looking. LOL!
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2016, 06:39:10 pm »

Welcome to the site! That chuck e cheese token seems like pure profit Smiley

Haha! You know it!
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