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« Reply #80 on: April 07, 2005, 04:49:20 pm » |
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Hello
I dont know but I will give an honest answer when I am done with the V56. Still learning as I go along. If you ask the same question over & over from people who have painted cars or bikes your can figure out the way things are suppose to go. I am just to get on to painting with a finished color red & white.
Kevin
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Jim
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« Reply #81 on: April 07, 2005, 05:18:29 pm » |
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Painting automobles takes a little more care in the appraoch as well as the products because cars are subjected to a lot more of natures elements. Soda machines, on the other hand, you can get away with a little more should you choose to.
For example, in automotive painting, many body men will apply an etching primer before doing body work, finish body work down to approx. 150-180 grit block sanding, then utilize a high build primer to aid in filling micro scratches from sanding. Filler prime again and block sand down to 220 or finer. Some body shops may switch to a top coat type primer and wet sand with 400 grit, seal and then apply top coats of paint. Finish paint will depend on single stage or base/clear.
Since these are soda machines, I personally got away from etching primer. One, it's a little expensive and when I did body work, I sanded some of it off anyway... After sand blasting, I did the body work, then primed with a filler primer and continued as above...
I pesonally recommend a 5 hp-60 gal as a minimum for painting as I explained in a previous post... HVLP spray gun is also my recommendation.
Hopefully helpful... '>
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firemun
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« Reply #82 on: April 07, 2005, 05:51:12 pm » |
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I agree with Josh's and with Jim's posts. I spent a lot of time in a body shop growing up and have restored several cars over the years. No doubt you getter higher quality paints and primers using automotive products. They will hold up longer and are more durable.
One note of caution, If you decide to use automotive primers and paints, use a seperate gun for each. Several reasons why but the two most important: 1. The size of the fluid tip needs to be larger for primer than paint. This will allow a faster build of primer. And the tip if too large for paint can run and orange peel your paint.
2. Your paint gun needs to be abosolutly clean, using it for one and then the other can lead to build up and little "flecks" of dried primer making an appearance in your paint.
If anyone would care for them, I have the paint codes as well as the actual mixing formulas for Dupont Centari in the Coca Cola red, white, Dr Pepper Green and a couple Pepsi blue ones, the older darker and the light blue.
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Jim
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« Reply #83 on: April 07, 2005, 07:16:28 pm » |
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EXCELLENT point Jeff! My apologies for leaving this out! This is very critical! I purchased a relatively cheap paint gun with the correct tip size to accommodate primers and spent more on the finish gun.
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BryanH
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« Reply #84 on: April 07, 2005, 10:43:22 pm » |
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Kevin - I was able to do a pretty good job (first time) painting hammertone with a 33gal 6HP compressor and a HVLP gun. The compressor's SCFM rating was in excess of the gun's consumption rating. Haven't yet attacked the exterior shell which I know will be a tougher job... but I'm going to give it a try. See this thread for more compressor discussions.
Jeff -please post any and all paint codes... any chance you have pepsi red & white codes from early 60's.
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Kevin C
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« Reply #85 on: June 08, 2005, 05:07:05 pm » |
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Hello
I finally purchased my paint. I took the coin door off & went to the local SW Auto paint store. they were more than helpful. After checking their records of 3 pages of Coke Red they used the paint matching machine to get the color. It just so happened that the store manager wife collects coke stuff & I thought I may have sold the V63 to him. They gave me some good advice & plenty of extra's to help out with the project.
So I hope to paint the main body this weekend.
Kevin
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BryanH
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« Reply #86 on: June 08, 2005, 10:04:41 pm » |
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Quote (firemun @ April 07 2005,3:51) | 1. The size of the fluid tip needs to be larger for primer than paint. This will allow a faster build of primer. And the tip if too large for paint can run and orange peel your paint. |
Jeff - what sizes do you recommend for each? Would also like to see the paint codes you have.
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Kevin C
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« Reply #87 on: March 05, 2006, 08:58:28 pm » |
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Hello
I have finally finished with the painting & transformation of my V-56 Thrifty-Vend. I am making it a light up machine with glass bottle door.
I want to warn each of you that the pictures make the machine look great. If you get up close you can see the issues that I could not deal with. Is the machine perfect No! I think I have learned a lession. No more painting for me.
Here are two pictures. The first is the orginal & the second is after painting & starting to put it back together.
Kevin
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Kevin C
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« Reply #88 on: March 05, 2006, 09:00:55 pm » |
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Hello
Of course I have messed up some small areas in the paint but I will touch that up at the end.
Kevin
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sodaworks
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« Reply #89 on: March 06, 2006, 12:30:04 pm » |
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looking good
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TERRY@SODAWORKS RESTORATIONS Lots of Round Top machines Buy-Sell-Trade-Restorations
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