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« on: August 02, 2013, 03:45:42 pm »

Any of you with a Scotsman ice maker, can you help me out? If you would be so kind to take a picture of the underneath back area where your drain assembly is I would greatly appreciate it. I have copper fittings which I believe are part of the drain system and need to know how they go together. There are different Scotmans out there so its possible they will look different. Thanks for any assistance here.
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2013, 04:32:17 pm »

Can you post a pic of the back of the machine?
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2013, 05:08:29 pm »

Best I can do for now. The machine is on a 6 inch ledge and it's too heavy for me to drop down. If you need a better shot, let me know I can get help later moving it.
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2013, 06:37:27 pm »

It's part of the drain/vent assembly, it forms a sort of sideways "T" shaped pipe that drains away the flush water after an Ice making cycle, but the top of the "T" should be higher than the top of the water reservoir to prevent siphoning of drain water back into the machine & it should have an air-gap ot the exit over the drain itself.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2013, 06:45:19 pm »

It's part of the drain/vent assembly, it forms a sort of sideways "T" shaped pipe that drains away the flush water after an Ice making cycle, but the top of the "T" should be higher than the top of the water reservoir to prevent siphoning of drain water back into the machine & it should have an air-gap ot the exit over the drain itself.

My next question would be which piece goes where then? How do they assemble? I know which one goes out of the machine, but not sure about the other two.
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2013, 06:55:39 pm »

I attached a basic diagram...
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2013, 01:21:24 pm »

I also found this on Alan Huffman's site. Looks like they didn't even use copper piping for the drain.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2013, 03:29:21 pm »

Here is a pic of mine for you.
The nipple up top is the water inlet. The two lines coming out below come from the overflow in the water reservoir and the the ice bin.
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2013, 05:24:23 pm »

Thanks for posting Tom.

Here's what I rigged up, I need to get a longer piece of vinyl hose for the top overflow and 3 more fasteners, but so far so good.

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« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2013, 10:05:21 pm »

Thanks for posting Tom.

Here's what I rigged up, I need to get a longer piece of vinyl hose for the top overflow and 3 more fasteners, but so far so good.



I would think a few shark bite fittings at a local home improvement store with standard copper tubing might be a more solid fix.  the vinyl tubing seem like it could slip off real easy or get kinked.  The shark bite fittings allow you to connect the tubing without having to solder the copper tubing.  

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« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2013, 10:11:16 pm »

I bought a shark bite T fitting to use, but in the end this just worked out better. Basically because I was still missing another copper pipe fitting to complete and didnt feel like driving back to ACE. I think in the end I will rig that up right to make it nice and sturdy. I also want to make a fitting on the outside similar to Tom's. For now though this works pretty good. Trust me those vinyl hoses are on there snug, it took quite a bit of effort to remove them when I messed up and needed to try something different. I ran the machine for 5 hours and had no problems. Machine was working hard in this 100 degree Texas heat!
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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2013, 10:14:34 pm »



Machine was working hard in this 100 degree Texas heat!!

That is a good test for sure!
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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2013, 04:51:51 pm »

Scotsman's owners: When running, do you always have a constant flow of water out the drain? Once mine gets going it's a constant trickle, but more then a drip.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2013, 09:42:05 pm »

The manual I have, which is not for my model (Fun-Tronics manual), says that the machine should not be operated in high temps. I can't place my hands on the manual right now, but I think it needs to be indoors (like below 90 degrees).
Maybe that is your issue?

Wish I could help more, but I've never had mine running.
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2013, 10:43:13 pm »

The manual I have, which is not for my model (Fun-Tronics manual), says that the machine should not be operated in high temps. I can't place my hands on the manual right now, but I think it needs to be indoors (like below 90 degrees).
Maybe that is your issue?

Wish I could help more, but I've never had mine running.

Thanks again for the input Tom. I do have the manual and I just checked and it says below 100 degrees. The heat index here is well over 100 right now, but its probably in the 90's in my garage. It's gonna be October until I can test accurately.  darn
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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2013, 08:17:28 am »

         It seems to me that whether it's an icemaker or a picnic cooler, the higher the ambient temperature.....the higher the runoff.
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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2013, 08:27:29 pm »

Scotsman's owners: When running, do you always have a constant flow of water out the drain? Once mine gets going it's a constant trickle, but more then a drip.

It is possible that your trickle is due to the ice melting off in the bin. Being you are experiencing high ambient temps the liner of the bin is also warm and has to be cooled down to slow the melting of the ice. This is common on flaker style machines until the bin temp gets down to 33 deg. One other thing to check is if the float valve is shutting off water flow when the water inlet bowl is full. If it is not shutting the water off it is going down the overflow to the drain.
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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2013, 11:27:05 pm »

It is possible that your trickle is due to the ice melting off in the bin. One other thing to check is if the float valve is shutting off water flow when the water inlet bowl is full. If it is not shutting the water off it is going down the overflow to the drain.

Those are the only two sources leading to the drain on it. There are no cooling coils around the bin, so it will have a constant ice melting flow - especially in high temps.
The float valve has an adjustment if it is not shutting down at the correct level.
I agree - it has got to be one of them!
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