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« on: November 15, 2009, 08:09:30 pm » |
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I need to break a V23 down to restore it and I am unsure of how to remove the evaporator coil from the bottle tub. The refrig unit cools great and I do not want to break into it if I don't have to. Do the refrig lines have to be cut or can the unit be removed intact?
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johnieG
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2009, 09:02:39 pm » |
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You can remove the unit as one-piece , you must remove the vending/coin mechanism, pull the top off, remove the back plate & remove the mounting screws holding the condenser coils on the back, & lay it flat on the ground , remove the mounting screws on the bottom of the vending drum & carefully lift the whole inside drum assembly up & out of the top cabinet, you can lay it on it's side on a milk crate then you can ease out the compressor out the back of the lower cabinet .
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001...  Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2009, 09:14:34 pm » |
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Isn't the panel that the evap coil sits on welded to the sides with the lines runing up through a cutout corner?
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johnieG
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2009, 09:58:32 pm » |
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Yes, but the drum that contains the coils is held to that plate by four screws. I've remove & restored three units out of V23's it takes about 45 minutes to completely remove one if all goes well barring stripped screws, etc. the lines run through the slot in the back, just off to the side. I've never had to cut any lines...
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Spoon-feeding Newbies since 2001... Yeah..220,221 whatever it takes. Remember, all it needs is a shot of Freon! The Vendo V-83 is the '59 Edsel of the coke machine world. ;p Spray painting does NOT restore a compressor 11 is louder than 10... "Hope" is good, but it's not an action plan. |
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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2009, 08:35:23 pm » |
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Johnie's right do not cut the lines. Be careful not to kink them as well.
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ss540
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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2009, 08:48:50 am » |
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Thanks for the help guys. You saved me a bunch of head scratching and possible unnecessary work. I need new sheet metal for this machine and have posted in the swap meet area.
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ss540
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2009, 03:29:24 pm » |
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I finally got to the task of trying to remove the refrig unit and as was stated by johnnieg, the lines pass through an opening on the side of a horizontal plate that appears to be spot welded to the cabinet. Because of this, I don't see any way the evap unit can be removed without disconnecting it from the compressor. I did see a connector on the suction line that apparently allows the line to be disconnected without cutting it for evap removal.
Also, from the bottom side of the unit, I don't see any screw heads that would attach the bottle drum to the horizontal plate.
Maybe I am missing something very obvious, but I just don't see how to remove the entire refrig unit without disconnecting the condensing side from the evap.
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90grad
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2009, 06:55:54 pm » |
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I think I have a manual for the 23 (electronic copy) on my computer at work. I also have torn down 2 of them. You definitely do NOT have to cut the lines. There is a rear plate on the upper portion of the rear of the machine that comes off. The evap coil goes around the honeycomb-like bottle basket, which then sits inside a larger "tub". This tub is insulated and is attached to the horizontal plate you are talking about. Lemme check my computer at work tomorrow.
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90grad
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2009, 05:53:27 am » |
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I submitted the service manual for the 23 to the Downloads seection on the main page. PM me if you would like me to email you a copy directly.
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Wayne
Mid-Atlantic Chapter
Cavalier 51 (1953)
Cavalier Airline Cooler
7-Up Picnic Cooler
Vendo 110 (1957)
VMC 56 Bottle (1964)
VMC 56 Can
Westinghouse Master Water Bath Cooler
Westinghouse Standard Ice Cooler
Westinghouse WB-102 (1963)
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ss540
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2009, 09:30:18 am » |
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Thanks 90grad,
On this machine, there is not a removable panel on the upper back and the horizontal plate is spot welded to the main cabinet. Here are a couple of pics. Is there a difference in a standard and deluxe model regarding the panels?
I didn't find the manual in the Downloads section.
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