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Title: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: JerryG on January 15, 2019, 11:51:41 pm
I wanted to share some photos of my VMC 81 7up machine. Unfortunately, the photo sizes are too big. I shared a link to my Pinterest page. If you would like me to email you any photos or if you have any questions, please let me know.

https://pin.it/lhkamehpus24jm

Take care,

Jerry


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: blownmach on January 16, 2019, 07:12:25 am
Excellent! :jawdrop:


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: Jim on January 16, 2019, 10:34:12 am
Very Nice Indeed ! ! !
Great documentation too!


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: SodaShopNick on January 16, 2019, 11:03:03 am
Wow just wow, looks fantastic!!


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: Eric on January 16, 2019, 12:56:25 pm
Wow... A great addition to your collection. Congrats! :happydrinkers:


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: JerryG on January 16, 2019, 05:50:57 pm
Thank you. Hopefully one day I will run across a VMC81 RC but I have yet to see on in California.



Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: MoonDawg on January 16, 2019, 07:45:34 pm

 VMC81 RC but I have yet to see one in California.


       Don't think like that Jerry, I have pulled 2 of them in original condition, from here in Ventura County over the last 20 years.

       Nice job on the 7up  :happydrinkers:


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: Marvin on January 16, 2019, 09:54:21 pm
That’s a great job! Looks fantastic


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: Funtronics on January 17, 2019, 08:08:40 am
Excellent work. Loved how you payed attention to detail.


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: johnieG on January 17, 2019, 06:58:44 pm
A very superb restoration, the attention to detail is awesome, ... but why oh why didn’t you attend ( replace) to the 70 year old compressor?  ( just a pet peeve of mine) I hope it doesn’t give you grief down the road.


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: JerryG on January 18, 2019, 04:55:12 pm
I am a stickler for originality. That’s why I kept it white.  All of my machines have the original compressors. I actually have two user machines running with the original compressors. I double insulate the machines. . The compressors come on once or twice an hour. At any given moment the beer in my 81D is 32 degrees.

Jerry


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: Eric on January 18, 2019, 05:04:54 pm
I agree on the original look.. the All white looks awesome! Great collection you have there.


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: johnieG on January 18, 2019, 09:41:57 pm
I am a stickler for originality. That’s why I kept it white.  All of my machines have the original compressors. I actually have two user machines running with the original compressors. I double insulate the machines. . The compressors come on once or twice an hour. At any given moment the beer in my 81D is 32 degrees.

Jerry

Sorry I just cannot agreed with that line of thought in regards to keeping a 60 to 70+ year old lump of a compressor in a restored machine, sure it’s running in many cases, but for how much longer? No matter how much paint, glitter & sprinkles you glue onto it. That compressor’s neither rebuilt nor restored.  The old units do look really cool though I do admit.

While keeping as close to the original  appearance is an important aspect of a machines restoration, cosmetics are only skin deep as they say. ( paraphrased) and replacement of the compressor is an additional consideration of the cost factor in the  bottom line of any machines restoration.

If I was sold or purchased a restored automobile only to discover that the engine hadn’t been rebuilt with equal care as the rest of the vehicle & only cleaned & spray painted  and was told it was to keep it “original”  I’d be a very sad panda when the old lump takes a dive.  ( politeness filter turn on here)

In my (jaded) opinion, it’s not fully restored until it’s fit in form and function.  Unless it’s a rebuildable compressor such as a York or a Copland unit it’s a consumable item no different than brake pads or tires. I wish they did have a repop Tecumseh pancake compressor, that’d be the hot ticket. 

If I start feeling nostalgic about the old compressor, I can always keep it in box in the garage and stare at it I guess.  :tounge:


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: mygoose101 on January 18, 2019, 11:01:50 pm
Beautiful machine indeed Jerry. Stunning actually. While some, not all, restorers are busy padding themselves on the back calling themselves the greatest restorers ever don't know of people like Jerry and others I'm sure who can restore such great pieces just as good as the professionals and in some cases even better so very nice work.

As for the compressor I totally prefer the original over new. They just seem to work better. I understand age, 60-70 years old but most I'm sure have only been plugged in a fraction of those years. When I see a restored machine for sale with an aftermarket or non-original compressor I see it as a negative.


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: coke_and_stuff on January 21, 2019, 09:55:08 pm
Nice to see a correct restoration! Great job it looks awesome! As far as that original compressor I would rather have that 70 year old compressor any day of the week than a cheap Chinese replacement. I’ve got 12 81s at the moment and all have original equipment with the exception of one!


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: mygoose101 on January 22, 2019, 01:26:59 am
Yes Joey, after I read your post I was looking for the "Like" button but I guess we don't have one here but couldn't agree more.


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: SIGNGUY on January 22, 2019, 11:14:43 am
I agree, that if the original compressor is cleaned up and restored and of course in working condition, why not restore it and use it.. it looks great in that machine, and if you can get more years out of it.. great.

I have original compressors in my daily machines that I Restored and after new insulation, gaskets and such, kicks on 2 times an hour for about 3 minutes each to maintain a frosty cold beer!!!

Nothing against the new compressors, and great that they are out there, but why replace if not needed yet.

Great looking machine!


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: johnieG on January 22, 2019, 08:10:38 pm
Hey I like original compressors too, got a few machines of my own with ‘em in them, they still run fine...  but sorry, if all you did was clean it, rewire it and then repaint thecompressors shell , but you didn’t replace or rebuilt the guts, it is Not restored, it’s not repaired, nor is it refurbished, regardless of how well it runs or how long it’s been in service or how long it will continue to work,  and calling it “ restored “ is wrong , when all it is in fact is just a repainted lie.

That’s the point I’m trying to emphasize... Words have meanings.

So if you bought a machine that’s billed a “100 % restored to better than new conditions”  But it still has the original compressor sitting there giving you a middle finger in your face, would you agree with that quoted statement of its restored condition?   :glare:

There have been lawsuits & legal charges brought for just such claims, Pat & I are fixing some “ restorations” of machines sold by a person of such scruples ( lack of, that is)  those machines will be restored & as will the cooling systems with new compressors. It’s a pity that they had to go through this twice with their machines.  ( the sh*t I’ve seen)  :censored:

If it’s an original working unit, great and wonderful, it’s a credit to the engineering of times past for all to enjoy,  just don’t call it “restored “  :veryangry:


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: mygoose101 on January 22, 2019, 11:07:14 pm
WWCD.....what would Carl do  :biggrin:

Fair enough. I will no longer call a painted compressor in a restored machine, restored, only painted. Now, you need to send the memo to the 65% of all "restored" soda machines on eBay and Craigslist that are only exterior painted with everything else left untouched that those machines aren't restored either, only painted. I have a bigger problem with that.


Title: Re: VMC 81 7up finally Done!
Post by: Ezra on February 03, 2019, 09:57:40 pm
Jerry,
Beautiful machine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!