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 Hi,Guys

             Got a Call from a Friend Said He had a Buddy call him abought a Soda Machine Someone Had Since He has spread the word that He know someone that Collects them .
We Went to Look at it Been in Basement ( :darn:) 30+years a Little $ Now I own a Second C 55-E Two Select Machine .It's Scratch up a lot on the sides .The Stainless trim Is Really Nice . It Is Missing the Bottle Spacers & Back bottle guides (2) I don't Know Yet if it works Because At Some Time Something Died in it and It Smelled And I had to power washed it (No Bones Found YET !! ) Missing Locking Bar & Lock
But Even if it dose"nt Work I'll have Spare Parts for the Other 2 I own . And if the Vend Motors Work there worth there weight in Gold .
                                                                        Leonard

Great score. Seems like cav 55's like you. Can I ask what you gave for it? If the motors do not work as long as they are there can easily be rewound and fixed. Any electric motor shop can fix a vend motor.

I have not found one yet that can fix a WC-60 vend motor - haven't needed to try the C-55 motor....yet!

Nice little score there Leonard  Well like you said it could be use as a parts machine
or if it works put a little money into it and turn around and sell it or you could alway keep
it for a rainy day :smile:.



 Pat

I made the spacers and shimes. I have extras if you are interested.

As far as motor repair shops go.....Most if not all won't touch a small, fractional H.P. motor with a 10 foot pole. I've tried many different shops, local and far, and get the same answer. Either they flat out say no or they are going to charge you something like $500 or higher to make an attempt at re-winding it (if that's the problem) Sometimes you will find an open winding and then you also find out that the open was caused by a bad bearing that caused the motor to bog down thereby cooking a winding. Trying to get a bearing replaced is a completely different task!

If you ever find a good reputable shop that will repair small motors for a decent price, let me know!!  :biggrin:

Brian,
 I have a shop in my home town ,that rebuilt a motor for a popperette... I think that is a 1/4 hp motor, (can't remember) but would figure it would about the same? maybe I'm wrong... I just don't have the info in front of me..

either way, they rewound the motor for around 200 bucks.. works like a charm.

Also Larry found a guy in Chicago area that did it as well...

Not much of a square top guy but these 55's are cool. I restored one last year for one of my client's and it turned out awesome.

          Allright Guys  :happydrinkers:

     After 4hr piddling & getting Shocked twice & Finding 1 Right & 1 Left Spacer (I know I need More ) Matt I might be in contact with you ?? . I have it Cooling (Yea ) BUT !!!! Nothing Else works No lights & Coin mech I even tried one out of the Other 55s & 1 i had on the shelf .I Know They all Work .So Since I'm a Dumb Ass  :tounge: when it comes to Electric & Wiring I just started looking in all the areas on the 55s I know ! And Low and behold I found the Problem .( See Pic ) Now I Know some of you guys Know a Bunch !! The area in the lower r/side is Fried .Can I use one of the ones in the top left side ??? There in no way hooked in series .Each connector thingey is it own It's just Riveded on the Breaker strip Board ??
Or Maybe some one might have one ???? from a Parts Machine ???
I don't know what caused the problem But I did find a Wisker wire from the Solenoid behind the slug rejector stuck in the other Solenoid housing Maybe causing the Vend motor to over load ??????And Burn the Termail Block ????
Looking for some Help  :smile:

                                                   Leonard

Leonard,

Bottom line, if the Brown or Blue labeled terminal groups aren't being used, you can swap your wires onto it and it will operate the same as if it were wired using the originals.

  Hi. Brian
               THANKS !!

                 That's What I was Thinking and after you replied I tryed it ! I didn't get shocked   :smile: Some Things are working now .The Original Changer is not Working Correctly .I'll have to talk to JohnnieG , A newer one works good . The Lights for the sold out don't work yet .But The machine Cools & Works 90% So were getting there .
                            Again Thanks Brian

                                                                 Leonard

No prob Leonard, glad I could help.

As far as the Sold Out lights go. Have you replaced them or swapped them into the Correct Change Light Bulb spot? (assuming that it works with a good changer)

Have you checked the two switches to make sure that they aren't stuck closed and that when you disconnect them that they have good continuity when you depress them? There are (4) total switches, (2) for each stack.

If they have good continuity, you will also have check the (3) relays that are associated with the Vend Cycle. They are all located beneath the female 9-Pin Cinch Receptacle. Being 50's technology they are all exposed coil & contact construction. What I mean by that is they aren't in a canned housing that will prevent you from cleaning the contacts.

Here's a few pictures of what I'm talking about.

The company in Chicago that rewired Larry's popperette charged $185.00 dollars to rewire the motor. Here is their info,
Palm Electric Motor
2918 W Grand Ave
Chicago, IL 60622-4399
(773) 276-8686

sorry here is their website http://www.palmelectric.com/

 Brian ,
           Great Pictures !! I found the Problem !! It seams that 2 wires were pinched in Half in the harness behind the lights wrapped in the Black Plastic . Everything is NOW working Except the Original Coin Mech I had a Newer Mars & Replaced it . Now I just got to actually repair things & Tape it all up .

Brain I have seen the coils .I had a Problem with my Other C-55-E-2 Select. Thought it was the Coin Mech .But It was the Top Coil was Not working  ( Energizing ??) I removed it and found the little copper wire was burnt in half .Lucky I was able to find 7 un-wind it a little 7 sodder it back together .Still WORKING !!

But I bet I'd never be able to find a replacement one ?????

                                   Again Thanks !! :smile:
                                                                    Leonard

Leonard,

Great news!! I'm glad you got it working with relative ease.

As far as the coil goes, there are replacements available that could be made to work in that application. Good to hear that you able to fix it, a few less windings won't really affect it's performance.