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Title: Ideal 55 Post by: zadd on August 04, 2008, 05:20:48 pm Ok guy's I need to pick your brain about a problem I'm having on the cooling system of a Ideal 55 . It cools fine for 2-3 cycles and then every cycle after that it takes longer to cool the cabinet every cycle until it just runs and stops cooling . I unplug it and after it sets a while you can run it again and it will do the same thing all over . Is it low on freon ?
Title: Re: Ideal 55 Post by: MoonDawg on August 04, 2008, 05:42:12 pm It's my guess that there may be a slight amount of moisture in the freon.
From a dead start it would cool fine until that water turned into a droplet of ice, clogging the flow in the line. Unplugging the machine would allow the ice to melt and start the whole process over again. Evacuating the system, adding a dryer and recharging would most likely solve that problem. Title: Re: Ideal 55 Post by: johnieG on August 04, 2008, 09:57:27 pm I agree, it sounds like a classic Icing problem.
Title: Re: Ideal 55 Post by: Chedki on August 05, 2008, 11:26:43 am Evacuating the system, adding a dryer and recharging would most likely solve that problem. What does a dryer look like and how does one install it? Just in case my Ideal 55 has the same problem. Title: Re: Ideal 55 Post by: johnieG on August 05, 2008, 06:10:58 pm It looks like a copper hot-dog & it is brazed onto the liquid line usually just before the capillary tubing. some dryers are cylinder-shaped & are attached to the suction side tubing ( larger diameter) leading back to the compressor, these can be either brazed on or flare-fittings type.
Original equipment manufacture types are the latter style ( spun-copper hot-dog shaped) & on a slider would be located inside the liner brazed onto the suction/return line. & not generally visable unless you pull the tank from the chassis. ( not a fun job on a slider) Title: Re: Ideal 55 Post by: MoonDawg on August 05, 2008, 08:11:59 pm & on a slider would be located inside the liner brazed onto the suction/return line. & not generally visable unless you pull the tank from the chassis. ( not a fun job on a slider) May be time to add this coincidence. I have owned many sliders, but this also happened to me once, and around the same time that year it also happened to a friend of mine..........BOTH were embossed 7up sliders :help: Title: Re: Ideal 55 Post by: zadd on August 13, 2008, 08:11:33 pm Can the new drier be added to the machine without removing the old one ? Or do I have to remove the liner again and replace the drier ? :down:
Title: Re: Ideal 55 Post by: johnieG on August 14, 2008, 08:18:34 pm most Sliders have Flare fittings on the lowside (suction) line, so you could easily add a new one inline down by the compressor, just make sure its a suction line rated dryer, (ask your supplier) & make sure it has the correct size flre fittings ( typically a dryer will have a male-threaded flare fitting on each end, so you will have to buy or make an adapter to just attach it in line. male to female) if your compressor deck has a service valve you could attach it at that point.
Title: Re: Ideal 55 Post by: zadd on August 16, 2008, 09:53:44 pm Have you guy's ever heard of a compressor getting weak and the internal valves going bad ? I put the Drier on and it still has a problem . I talk to a refrigeration guy and he thinks the compressor is weak and that's why it stops cooling . :Oo:
Title: Re: Ideal 55 Post by: johnieG on August 17, 2008, 08:49:23 am Could be a good guess but, you'd really need to put a set of gauges on the high & low sides to determine what's going on internally with the compressor, otherwise you're just guessing.
I assume you fully evacuated the system with a good vacuum pump for at least an hour when you installed the new filter/dryer, (to remove any traces of moisture from the lines & oil ) and also measured in the correct charge (and type) of refrigerant. |