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Title: time delay relays Post by: frankie_eh on June 02, 2007, 04:23:42 pm Hi.
Re:Late 60's cornelius 4 select square top machine. I think that the time delay relay is broken in my machine, but I also do not think the one in it is original. Can anyone tell me where I can find a description of one and its wiring diagram or if there is a site where I could find one for sale up here in Toronto Canada. The problem is: the machine was not vending. I took out the coin mech, removed the JonesPlug and I used a "bypass" switch. When I press the switch, the credit relay "clicks" but the unit does not vend a can when the popselect button is pushed (none of them work, no power to the solenoids). Thanks for any info. Title: time delay relays Post by: Skeleton Man on June 10, 2007, 10:26:06 pm Frank, you are still having problems with this machine ? I sent you a wiring diagram and instructions way back when you first bought it. I assumed you got it fixed as I didn't hear back.
It was vending before that incident with the mech right ? The time delay relay is nothing more than a normal relay with a capacitor and diode across it (if you are looking at purpose built time delay relays you're way off - those are for delays in the range of 30 secs to 5 minutes, not the half second or so this application requires). All of the above were brand new a couple of weeks before I sold the machine.. but it's possible one of them has malfunctioned and needs to be replaced... (you did mention a loud bang in your emails to me ? - I suspect the capacitor) I will see if I can find my hand written scribbles/notes on how everything went together and worked (little more detailed than the wiring diagram).. I never made any official documentation, just scrawled notes for myself on sheets on paper (e.g. "red wire, terminal 1, 110V") I spent a lot of time and effort (and cash) on getting that machine working flawlessly, so it's kind of dissapointing to see it malfunction like this. Chris Title: time delay relays Post by: johnieG on June 10, 2007, 10:34:23 pm Did you use a rectifier (diode) in series with the Capacitor? if not , the A.C Voltage will blow the stuffings out of a D.C. rated capacitor. Also , if a diode was used , if it was the wrong polarity ( in referance to the capacitors + terminal) it would also blow the cap, but not right away, just after a while with repeated use, Just a thought.
Title: time delay relays Post by: Skeleton Man on June 10, 2007, 10:47:06 pm Yes, forgot to mention the diode and it is wired correctly. The machine was running perfectly for weeks before I sold it.. even after I sold it.. it was only after they changed the price or something on the mech that something blew and it stopped working.
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