Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 10, 2007, 01:59:24 pm
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130053441087
The top of the machine is in bad shape and I think the asking price is way to high. I offered 100 bucks. What do you "Pros" think? I need this machine for parts anyways.
Thanks for your help
Steve
The top of the machine is in bad shape and I think the asking price is way to high. I offered 100 bucks. What do you "Pros" think? I need this machine for parts anyways.
Thanks for your help
Steve
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: MoonDawg on April 10, 2007, 02:23:46 pm
Ok, let's bring Josh into this to be sure but I think you
have the real CSS-8-64, which has a crank at each bottle
gate. The one in the auction is just a regular old CSS-64,
but as what the guys were saying, buy one for $100 and
swipe the compressor and the sign frame.
Thats what all the pro's that I know do
have the real CSS-8-64, which has a crank at each bottle
gate. The one in the auction is just a regular old CSS-64,
but as what the guys were saying, buy one for $100 and
swipe the compressor and the sign frame.
Thats what all the pro's that I know do
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 10, 2007, 03:06:15 pm
they will sell it for 128 and change to cover ebay fees and broker fees. What do you think?
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 10, 2007, 03:09:35 pm
yes I said BROKER fees
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: Kilroy on April 10, 2007, 03:21:14 pm
Ask them to throw in the brass fire extingusher they also have up for sale as part of the deal.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 10, 2007, 03:23:54 pm
haha and a free tetanus shot
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: Pat Pixley on April 10, 2007, 03:45:35 pm
OK SEE if the darn thing get's cold and if it hold's that cold
and if it does then JUMP ON IT , there is your compressor
and any other thing you may need . Then you can turn around and
sell the parts like the bottle door, coin door bottle rack, shelve
and so on .
Pat
and if it does then JUMP ON IT , there is your compressor
and any other thing you may need . Then you can turn around and
sell the parts like the bottle door, coin door bottle rack, shelve
and so on .
Pat
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: coke_and_stuff on April 10, 2007, 04:28:52 pm
Well if you get it im interested in the sign frame
Joey
Joey
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: zadd on April 10, 2007, 05:34:51 pm
I got a very nice one just like it for $75. Looked like it was inside most of it's life. 
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: BryanH on April 10, 2007, 06:05:30 pm
A working machine for $75 is a steal. Even at $150 (assuming the broker fees are less than 10% of the list) and you'll still be ahead of the game IF the compressor works.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: zadd on April 10, 2007, 06:28:18 pm
I picked it up off a cash deal from ebay. The machine was in way better condition than the photos showed
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 10, 2007, 08:08:49 pm
I like these machines alot. They are small, have a lighted door and some have a lighted sign. They vend beer bottles, soda cans, and water bottles. They also have a small vending door. Great machine
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: loman4ec on April 10, 2007, 08:34:57 pm
Ok your other machines are USS-64 meaning Universal slant shelf machines meaning it will vend about anything. The one in the auction is a CSS-64. It is a bottle only machine. Alot of the parts are the same. the cooling stsyem is the same and the coin door and anything behind the coin door is the same as your machines. However this machine has different shelves a different bottle stack and a completely different cabnet. Under the woodgrain on this machine the door is painted black. if you can get it for under $200 and it cools I would say go for it. You can sell the shelves for about $5 to $10 each on ebay and the bottle stack will bring about $25. There are also alot of other small parts that you can sell so you will basicall be able to get a free cooling system. Sounds like a good deal to me. Or this machine looks like it might clean up. You might want to keep the machine as is and use it for bottles only. Just set a bottle crate on the top and you will never know the top is messed up. This CSS-64 is a G model and was made during the same years as your woodgrain USS-64.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 10, 2007, 08:43:33 pm
Thanks loman, you are the man. How could you tell all that from one photo?
You say it will vend bottles, does that include beer and water bottles or just small soda bottles?
I have a bunch of coke wood crates too. Thats a great idea
You say it will vend bottles, does that include beer and water bottles or just small soda bottles?
I have a bunch of coke wood crates too. Thats a great idea
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: loman4ec on April 10, 2007, 08:55:31 pm
Your welcome. i have had a ton of these in the past. Where do you live? I see that that auction is in Jascsonville. When I had most of my machines I lived in daytona. The CSS-64 will vend about any type of bottle. The only restriction is the bottle diameter. The new plastic bottles that are in the new machines are too fat. However they do sell longer thinner plastic bottles in the stores and the do vend just fine. On your machines the bottle is dispensed by turning the knob on the side of the bottle stack. On this machine it vends by actually grabing the neck of the bottle and pulling it through the vend gate. that is why it wont vend cans. They do fit but it is really hard to get them out. If you have skinny fingers you can pull the gate out with your hands and pull the can out that way but it is hard.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 11, 2007, 07:56:11 am
I live in St. Augustine Fl. I think this is going to be a great machine to add to my collection. Should I leave the wood grain or remove it?
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: loman4ec on April 11, 2007, 08:48:40 am
Remove it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The frosty machine in my avitar is the same model as the one you are buying. They look great restored!
The frosty machine in my avitar is the same model as the one you are buying. They look great restored!
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 11, 2007, 11:54:01 am
now I need to find a painter to take out fishing in exchange for painting the machine
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 11, 2007, 02:49:53 pm
going to pick it up now
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 11, 2007, 05:56:21 pm
got it for $128.56 and its all intact. It needs a new paint job but besides that its in perferct shape. Cools fast too.
I will post some pics after I clean it up
I will post some pics after I clean it up
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 11, 2007, 10:07:25 pm
didnt get much done today. All the parts are intact and its set to vend at 35 cents. This machine was a great find since its smaller than my uss-8-64
I started to remove the wood grain sticker and look what I found.
someone fell asleep on the job back in 1975!
I started to remove the wood grain sticker and look what I found.
someone fell asleep on the job back in 1975!
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: loman4ec on April 12, 2007, 03:02:24 am
Its just black. i would use a spray bomb for that little pannel.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 12, 2007, 06:28:51 am
yep I put several coats of flat and the last coat will be gloss
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: loman4ec on April 12, 2007, 08:15:29 am
I can't remember but I think I might have a part that you might want. It is the the black piece that the coin bezel connects to. I think I have one that is polished aluminum. It looks alot better. i might even have a chrome coin bezel. I won't be back home untill August but if you remind me I will try and dig it out. If I can find them they are yours.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 12, 2007, 08:24:04 pm
thanks man!
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 12, 2007, 08:37:05 pm
I am thinking about painting the black door red. What do you think?
I started to clean the inside of the machine today
I removed the compressor and took some pics of the wiring so I will know how to put it back together
I started to clean the inside of the machine today
I removed the compressor and took some pics of the wiring so I will know how to put it back together
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 12, 2007, 08:42:42 pm
Gave the deck a good cleaning with a brillo pad.
The inside of the machine is in great condition. Too bad the outside needs a paint job
I removed the stack and gave it a good cleaning too. Thats all for now
The inside of the machine is in great condition. Too bad the outside needs a paint job
I removed the stack and gave it a good cleaning too. Thats all for now
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: loman4ec on April 13, 2007, 05:47:54 am
I wouldnt paint the door liner red. It is thermal plastic and paint will not stick well. It is also is in a really humid and cold on the inside of the machine. With the door liner being flexable the paint will break off.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 13, 2007, 06:23:51 am
oops, I was talking about this door. The one that was not painted all the way
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: loman4ec on April 13, 2007, 06:46:39 am
Ok that makes more sense. It is a small pannel. try it the worst thing that can happen is you don't like it and paint it black again. I personally dont like all of the black on these machines. I think it will look alot better red. While you are at it I would paint the black piece behind the coin bezel white. It looks really good that way. I would also think about painting the sign frame and the black trim. You can also go to a local sign shop and have a new sign made for your machine. I think the white sign with red Drink Coca Cola looks alot better.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: loman4ec on April 13, 2007, 07:20:00 am
For example this is the exact same model as your machine. It is a CSS-64-G. It was just made a few years earlier than yours.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 13, 2007, 07:23:59 am
what does one go for in good condition or restored? I want one
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: loman4ec on April 13, 2007, 08:09:58 am
What do you mean you want one? You have one. The machine I posted is just a different paint scheme than yours and has a different sign. I sold a fully restored cavalier CS-64D which is a much earlier model for $1,300 on ebay last year. I think it went for a little more than it was worth. You rarely see them go for that much especially on ebay but it was a sweet machine.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 13, 2007, 08:12:27 am
I know but I notice the little differences on it. Its more vintage
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 13, 2007, 08:19:06 am
I am going to look for a cavalier 72. I am going to keep my collection to cavalier machines
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: loman4ec on April 13, 2007, 09:13:12 am
Your in a good place for it. That is mostly what I found in Florida. With some paint and a new sign yours can look exactly the same. Just to show what paint can do here is a before and after of the same machine as yours that I did.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 13, 2007, 09:16:02 am
very nice
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 13, 2007, 09:16:52 am
where do you buy the cavalier sticker? The one on the bottom right of the machine
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: loman4ec on April 13, 2007, 09:19:54 am
funtronics. They have an icon on the main page. they do not have a web site but you can call them and order a catalog. It is $7 but well worth the money. They have a ton of stuff for your machine and they are the only company licensed to reproduce Coke decals.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 13, 2007, 09:21:56 am
thanks, also when you were in FL how did you locate machines? I have had luck on ebay, garage sales, and craigslist
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 13, 2007, 09:26:07 am
self edit
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: loman4ec on April 13, 2007, 09:39:04 am
I usually ran ads in the Daytona News Journal and I ran ads in the pennysaver. i always had better luck from the newspaper. It is expensive but worth it. I did have alot of luck from Craigslist also. Just always run your ads in the collectables section anywhere you advertise. Don't run them in the wanted section. No one checks the wanted section.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: MoonDawg on April 13, 2007, 10:37:15 am
That Frostie machine came out looking amazing! I just don't
seem to have that much foresight.
I saved the before and after pictures, am going to print them
and display in my store.
seem to have that much foresight.
I saved the before and after pictures, am going to print them
and display in my store.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: loman4ec on April 13, 2007, 06:08:18 pm
Ok great! Thanks. It was a fun project
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 16, 2007, 08:33:42 pm
got some work done today. I picked up a new orbital sander and smoothed out the top of the machine
Taped off the top
then to test the color. It came out pretty close.
If I have time tomorrow I will scuff the top again and spray down primer. I just wanted to see how the color matched. I plan to spray the whole top in primer then paint the entire top red, followed by the white stripe. I am also going to paint the white side stripes too. Please throw your suggestions at me because I can use any tips right now
Taped off the top
then to test the color. It came out pretty close.
If I have time tomorrow I will scuff the top again and spray down primer. I just wanted to see how the color matched. I plan to spray the whole top in primer then paint the entire top red, followed by the white stripe. I am also going to paint the white side stripes too. Please throw your suggestions at me because I can use any tips right now
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: Creighton on April 16, 2007, 09:03:56 pm
What paint did you use?
Thanks,
Creighton
Thanks,
Creighton
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 16, 2007, 09:13:34 pm
Dupli-color Auto Spray
color Flash Red
5oz can cost 5.99 at pep boys
They sell the same paint for paint guns and I am thinking it may be cheaper to go that route if I decide to paint the entire machine. This stuff wont chip either.
color Flash Red
5oz can cost 5.99 at pep boys
They sell the same paint for paint guns and I am thinking it may be cheaper to go that route if I decide to paint the entire machine. This stuff wont chip either.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 16, 2007, 09:27:40 pm
Does funtronics sell the side decals to this machine? I may just paint the whole thing and clear coat it.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: MoonDawg on April 17, 2007, 10:11:32 am
Don't get too far ahead of yourself. Why not see what results
you can get on the top of this machine. When you find out how
difficult it really is to achive a nice finish........you may think twice
about shooting the rest of this machine. You will soon have a
room full of machines that will need a little paint here and there.
It is strongly suggested at this point to continue to sand the
entire surface down to metal before primer and paint. The top of
that machine is level with your line of sight. You will see craters
and bumps after you spray your color.
The spray gun will allow you to mix paint material with a catylst
and will have a hardcoat glossy finish that will be chemical
resistant. No doubt the spraycan is quick and easy but that paint
won't take much abuse.
you can get on the top of this machine. When you find out how
difficult it really is to achive a nice finish........you may think twice
about shooting the rest of this machine. You will soon have a
room full of machines that will need a little paint here and there.
It is strongly suggested at this point to continue to sand the
entire surface down to metal before primer and paint. The top of
that machine is level with your line of sight. You will see craters
and bumps after you spray your color.
The spray gun will allow you to mix paint material with a catylst
and will have a hardcoat glossy finish that will be chemical
resistant. No doubt the spraycan is quick and easy but that paint
won't take much abuse.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 17, 2007, 07:58:10 pm
Here is an update
I bought a belt sander since the orbit sander was not doing the job. I used the orbit sander as a finish sander
Here is the top with 40 grit
I smoothed it out with 120 grit and gave it a coat of auto primer
first coat of red
Tomorrow I will apply the second coat
on a side note we are having extreme smoke due to wild fires in Georgia. The news is saying 19 acres is burning. Today at noon you couldnt see 50 feet in front of you due to smoke
Thats smoke in the pic not clouds
I bought a belt sander since the orbit sander was not doing the job. I used the orbit sander as a finish sander
Here is the top with 40 grit
I smoothed it out with 120 grit and gave it a coat of auto primer
first coat of red
Tomorrow I will apply the second coat
on a side note we are having extreme smoke due to wild fires in Georgia. The news is saying 19 acres is burning. Today at noon you couldnt see 50 feet in front of you due to smoke
Thats smoke in the pic not clouds
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 19, 2007, 08:41:24 pm
Got the top finished and the stripe on the top and sides. I also repainted all the black trim
Not bad for the first time huh?
I just found 2 more css-8-64's. I am going to stock pile these because I have a feeling they will fetch a good price in 5-10 yrs
Not bad for the first time huh?
I just found 2 more css-8-64's. I am going to stock pile these because I have a feeling they will fetch a good price in 5-10 yrs
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 19, 2007, 08:44:11 pm
2nd and 3rd coat of clear coat tomorrow then I am done
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 19, 2007, 08:49:53 pm
and
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: ZMonet on April 19, 2007, 09:16:10 pm
I think it looks good. It really comes down to what your expectations and desires are. For me, I don't need a showroom finish, but I understand why many here are looking for that or very close thereto.
You might have seen this mentioned before, but be careful with the clear coats in a spray can. They can sometimes cause bubbling. Try a test area first before you go to town on your machine.
You might have seen this mentioned before, but be careful with the clear coats in a spray can. They can sometimes cause bubbling. Try a test area first before you go to town on your machine.
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 20, 2007, 07:44:55 am
I think using the auto spray paint is much better than what you can buy from the hardware store. To give you an idea you need to apply pressure with a screw driver to scratch the finish. The clearcoat came out very nice as I checked it before going to work. It came out so well that it blends in with the factory paint job. I plan on painting the sides soon as well. Where can I find the sticker decals for the sides?
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: sodaworks on April 20, 2007, 09:38:14 am
Try Funtronics
Title: css-8-64 on Ebay. Whats a good offer?
Post by: SquareTopCollector on April 20, 2007, 11:22:39 am
Thanks