Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: on February 13, 2003, 05:55:19 pm
Has anyone that advertises classifieds on this website had any e-mails from so call purchasers of antique soda machines that have buyers in africa? How legitimate are these purchasers? And does anyone have any experiences with these guys? It does sound like a scam to me. I had two e-mails that state "give me your address and we will send a check". Thanks and seller beware?
Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: MoonDawg on February 13, 2003, 08:46:40 pm
I haven"t advertised on this site, but have sold machines to people in Holland, England Australia and Japan. Remember that our machines were produced here and stayed here. To my knowledge, other countries except Canada, have never had pre-60's machines exported to them. Your request may have been instigated by a wealthy customer, in need of what you have for sale
He wants your adrdess to mail a check. Give him a P.O. box, or your work or Western Union, When the money is good, let them have it! Glen
He wants your adrdess to mail a check. Give him a P.O. box, or your work or Western Union, When the money is good, let them have it! Glen
Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: on March 14, 2003, 05:00:30 pm
I just got an email from an Adams Smith located in West Africa(doesnt even name the country, just the continent)wanting to buy my machine. It sounds alot like a scam. I know for one thing the guy doesn't know how to turn off his CAPS LOCK! Has anyone dealt with this man, because it sounds like on of those email scams with a millionaire trapped in some country you never heard of, and if you transfer his vast fortune to your bank account in order to help him escape, he will give a couple million for the trouble. All you have to do is email him your bank account #......... 
Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: on March 14, 2003, 06:26:23 pm
archimedes, i got the same e-mail from the same guy. it is a scam and someone emailed me and said don't give these guys any personal info. they are nothing but trouble. i have receive 3 offers from africans about buying a soda machine from me. people who advertise gas pumps on another sight have had the same problem with these guys.
Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: on March 14, 2003, 06:34:58 pm
Thats ok, I know its a scam. I am having some fun emailing him back with questions and such. Here is they email he sent me so everyone can keep on the alert for this crap! Also I will add the responses as they come. LOL! This should be fun!
His email is adamsmithltd@yahoo.com
GOOD DAY MARK,
I AM ADAMS, I AM HIGHLY INTERESTED IN
YOUR MACHINE AND I WILL LIKE TO KNOW YOUR FINAL
OFFERING PRICE.I AM LOCATED IN WEST AFRICA AND I WIL
TAKE CARE OF SHIPPING MYSELF AND I WILL LIKE TO KNOW
THE PRESENT CONDITION OF THE MACHINE ALONG WITH THE
PICS.GET BACK TO ME ASAP
REGARDS
ADAMS
My response......
What country are you located in?
His response.....
I AM LOCATED IN WESTERN PART OF AFRICA
My response......
Africa is a continent, not a country. Africa is composed of over 50 independent countries. Surely you know the country in which you are located..........
His email is adamsmithltd@yahoo.com
GOOD DAY MARK,
I AM ADAMS, I AM HIGHLY INTERESTED IN
YOUR MACHINE AND I WILL LIKE TO KNOW YOUR FINAL
OFFERING PRICE.I AM LOCATED IN WEST AFRICA AND I WIL
TAKE CARE OF SHIPPING MYSELF AND I WILL LIKE TO KNOW
THE PRESENT CONDITION OF THE MACHINE ALONG WITH THE
PICS.GET BACK TO ME ASAP
REGARDS
ADAMS
My response......
What country are you located in?
His response.....
I AM LOCATED IN WESTERN PART OF AFRICA
My response......
Africa is a continent, not a country. Africa is composed of over 50 independent countries. Surely you know the country in which you are located..........
Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: on March 14, 2003, 06:47:48 pm
archimedes, good for you. you must know how to deal with telemarketers too. sounds like the african is speechless after your last reply.
Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: on March 15, 2003, 09:40:23 am
Latest responses
Sent these to him last night......
By the way, your CAPS LOCK IS ON!
and.........
I was curious, do you happen to know a collector of antique gasoline globes who I hear is also from the western part of Africa. His name is Sunny Sunday.
His response this morning........
hello,
thanks for the mail.i am only trying to purchase from you not to have anything else, so if you are interested in selling the refridgrator.get back to me
my response back.........
Well, I am merely trying to figure out who I am dealing with here. I have asked you twice which country you are in and you have yet to answer me. It would seem a little difficult to ship a machine if I don't know where its going. Could you provide me with your address?
Sent these to him last night......
By the way, your CAPS LOCK IS ON!
and.........
I was curious, do you happen to know a collector of antique gasoline globes who I hear is also from the western part of Africa. His name is Sunny Sunday.
His response this morning........
hello,
thanks for the mail.i am only trying to purchase from you not to have anything else, so if you are interested in selling the refridgrator.get back to me
my response back.........
Well, I am merely trying to figure out who I am dealing with here. I have asked you twice which country you are in and you have yet to answer me. It would seem a little difficult to ship a machine if I don't know where its going. Could you provide me with your address?
Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: on March 15, 2003, 11:54:52 am
Hey guess where he is from.......LOL!!!!
THANKS FOR THE QUICK RESPONSE,I AM LOCATED NIGERIA,AND I WILL LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU SHIP TO WEST AFRICA AND IF YOU DONT I WILL HAVE TO ARRANGE WITH ONE OF MY ASSOCIATE IN THE UNITED STATE.GET BACK TO ME ASAP
Lets see what he thinks of this one........
Well, shipping to your associate in the United State might be easier, as I have never shipped something this large out of the country before. How would you be planning to pay for this Coca Cola Machine if we make a deal?
THANKS FOR THE QUICK RESPONSE,I AM LOCATED NIGERIA,AND I WILL LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU SHIP TO WEST AFRICA AND IF YOU DONT I WILL HAVE TO ARRANGE WITH ONE OF MY ASSOCIATE IN THE UNITED STATE.GET BACK TO ME ASAP
Lets see what he thinks of this one........
Well, shipping to your associate in the United State might be easier, as I have never shipped something this large out of the country before. How would you be planning to pay for this Coca Cola Machine if we make a deal?
Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: Jim on March 15, 2003, 12:55:39 pm
Keep us posted on the responses, this is interesting...
I have had a few people from overseas contact me to buy the Soda Machines I have listed... Since the header info in the email message was strange, I either ignored it or sometimes replied with: We don't sell soda machines!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall seeing any soda machines for sale from Soda-Machines.Com...
I have had a few people from overseas contact me to buy the Soda Machines I have listed... Since the header info in the email message was strange, I either ignored it or sometimes replied with: We don't sell soda machines!
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall seeing any soda machines for sale from Soda-Machines.Com...
Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: on March 16, 2003, 12:33:07 pm
Well, the looks like I made a sale! LOL Heres what he sent this morning.
"thanks for th e mail,i mean i will instruct my associate in the united states that is oweing me $4,000 to issue you a cashier check drawn in an american bank and as soon as the check clears in the bank,i will like you to hold out your amount and send me the difference via money gram so that i can arrange with my shippers in their local office here to pick up the machine from you.if this terms are okay by you i will like you to provide me with your contact details and phone number in which the check will be sent to asap"
Heres my response back!!!
That sounds fine. If you want to send the check to the address below that will be great. I am going out of town this evening and will not return for the next few weeks, and will be having my computer repaired so contacting me via email or phone will not be an option. If you could just send detailed transaction instructions along with the check and my friend will handle the matter. If you could, please include a copy of this email in the letter, just to remind him what the check is for. Thanks, and I look forward to completing this transaction.
Theodore Jackson
Suite 400
2635 Century Parkway, Northeast
Atlanta, Georgia 30345-3112
In case you guys don't know, Theodore Jackson is the special agent in charge of the Atlanta FBI office. LOL!! Is this guy going to be surprised!!
"thanks for th e mail,i mean i will instruct my associate in the united states that is oweing me $4,000 to issue you a cashier check drawn in an american bank and as soon as the check clears in the bank,i will like you to hold out your amount and send me the difference via money gram so that i can arrange with my shippers in their local office here to pick up the machine from you.if this terms are okay by you i will like you to provide me with your contact details and phone number in which the check will be sent to asap"
Heres my response back!!!
That sounds fine. If you want to send the check to the address below that will be great. I am going out of town this evening and will not return for the next few weeks, and will be having my computer repaired so contacting me via email or phone will not be an option. If you could just send detailed transaction instructions along with the check and my friend will handle the matter. If you could, please include a copy of this email in the letter, just to remind him what the check is for. Thanks, and I look forward to completing this transaction.
Theodore Jackson
Suite 400
2635 Century Parkway, Northeast
Atlanta, Georgia 30345-3112
In case you guys don't know, Theodore Jackson is the special agent in charge of the Atlanta FBI office. LOL!! Is this guy going to be surprised!!
Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: on March 16, 2003, 12:56:54 pm
Good for you. Is this another Archimedes principal?
Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: on March 16, 2003, 01:31:35 pm
LOL! I think this would fall under the principal of the screw!
Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: racerx45 on March 21, 2003, 02:41:43 pm
Well this is an interesting post. I got a few laugh out of it. It sounds like a money laundering scam to me. Be careful with this guy he may sound stupid and talk in all caps but if he is a pro watch out.
Last summer we had our company’s phone system hacked in to and in 10 days they racked up $35K in over seas calls. I have spent a lot of time with both the local police and the FBI and it is not fun. They are looking in to electric crimes and the terrorist countries that where called (yep Nigeria was one of them). I hope the FBI in Atlanta will be happy to get an unexpected letter from Nigeria with a cashier’s check and your email in it. I would recommend contacting them just to let them know about this guy and see if they want more info on him.
Hopefully it all works out for the best and will remain just a funny story.
Last summer we had our company’s phone system hacked in to and in 10 days they racked up $35K in over seas calls. I have spent a lot of time with both the local police and the FBI and it is not fun. They are looking in to electric crimes and the terrorist countries that where called (yep Nigeria was one of them). I hope the FBI in Atlanta will be happy to get an unexpected letter from Nigeria with a cashier’s check and your email in it. I would recommend contacting them just to let them know about this guy and see if they want more info on him.
Hopefully it all works out for the best and will remain just a funny story.
Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: on October 25, 2003, 07:04:54 am
I just read a reply stating that no machines from the US were exported.This is nonsense.I live in South Africa,and collect soda machines.I have one of the first Westinghouse Juniors ever made,serial number 14 .I also have a Westinghouse WH22T and Vendo I just bought not quite sure which model it is yet.I know there are a lot of scams from Africa,hey that's how life is here!But don't rip off the whole of Africa we have some enthusiasts here! 
Title: Africans buying machines
Post by: on October 27, 2003, 12:14:04 am
To anyone who might read this message. I am a Federal Officer. I deal with the FBI, Secret Service, CIA, and other agencies. I can not give specific details, but be aware that there are so many scams out there. Even major financial institutions are being taken. Be careful, protect yourselfs. Only deal by through means that protect you. If it sounds too good, it probably is. If the person seems reluctant to identify themself, be wary. The criminals are bad enough, but many times the schemes go far beyond that. So much of the fraud these days goes to financing rebel and terrorist groups. Exchanging messages with these people may seem like fun, many times it allows them to hack your computer and capture personal information, sometimes they piggyback your connection and reach out at your expense or identity. Be careful out there.