Title: Zinc platting
Post by: TheGarbageHunter on April 06, 2006, 01:07:11 pm
<font color='#000000'>Hi everyone,
I'm in the process locating a shop to zinc plat my shelves and bottle stack to a Cavalier 72. First time doing this and wondering when zinc platting shelves what exactly should I be asking the shop to do. Someone once told me to ask for clear zinc platting and for them to triple dip the clear. I am not exactly sure what (triple dip the clear means/ Any ideas??) What is a resonable price to pay for 9 shelves?? I have been quoted 125.00. Thought it was a bit high, thus looking for another shop. Also when platting the bottle stack, I am thinking that it needs to be complete broken down, Correct?? Not sure if I can have the whole thing plated with a minimal break down. All feedback appreciated.
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I'm in the process locating a shop to zinc plat my shelves and bottle stack to a Cavalier 72. First time doing this and wondering when zinc platting shelves what exactly should I be asking the shop to do. Someone once told me to ask for clear zinc platting and for them to triple dip the clear. I am not exactly sure what (triple dip the clear means/ Any ideas??) What is a resonable price to pay for 9 shelves?? I have been quoted 125.00. Thought it was a bit high, thus looking for another shop. Also when platting the bottle stack, I am thinking that it needs to be complete broken down, Correct?? Not sure if I can have the whole thing plated with a minimal break down. All feedback appreciated.
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Title: Zin platting
Post by: BryanH on April 06, 2006, 02:24:14 pm
Can't help on the cost but plan to tear it all down to individual pieces. May also want to search the forums on plating and powdercoating. Seem to remember a discussion that compared the merits of both.
Title: Zin platting
Post by: TheGarbageHunter on April 06, 2006, 03:57:23 pm
Located thread, thanks.
Title: Zin platting
Post by: collecture on April 07, 2006, 12:22:49 am
I was just wondering if zin platiing was something done in a Buddhist temple? Any relation to zen? Do they meditate or spiritually will the plating on?
Title: Zin platting
Post by: TheGarbageHunter on April 07, 2006, 11:16:19 am
Very Funny, 
I should check my spelling before posting. Like platting and zin.
I should check my spelling before posting. Like platting and zin. Title: Zin platting
Post by: loman4ec on April 07, 2006, 11:36:01 am
Why do you want to zinc plate everything? If this is a machine that you are going to use I highly suggest you use powdercoating. The zinc plating will not hold up and look restored for a long time. Yes it will resist rust but with the bottles sliding over it it will scratch. Powder coating is hard as nails and the silver looks alot like zinc. Just a thought.
Title: Zin platting
Post by: Eric on April 07, 2006, 12:19:01 pm
I had my shelves for my 81 and 72 zinc plated... then coated with this yellow clear that is to hold up for years... but after seeing what others have done I'm going to Hammertone over them.
Going to have the tubs powder coated then on my 39 (yes this sounds like a waste) going to hammertone over the powdercoat cause I like the “look” of Hammertone for the 39.
If they are really rusty... and you can get it done cheap( Had my shelves done for $50 a set)
it wouldn't be bad to have them acid washed then coated. But I'd paint over them to have them match everything else.
If I don't paint them.. my machines are gonna look like they have gold shelves in a
silver lined machine...then they will in time, like Josh says, scratch and turn....
You should look up the thread done on Hammertone shelving... a 6 month trial on Hammertone
shelves in use... still looked brand new!.... I was sold....
Anyone know that thread?.....
Good Luck
Also... On my 56.. the liner and shelves just look chalky... I'm just going to clean them, powdercoat the liner...then yep Hammertone the parts of the stack, shelves then over the liner so it all matches.
I had the tub in my 81 zinced (or was going to) and they couldn't do it.... AFTER they gave it a acid bath!!!!!
So it sits by the humidifier in the basement till I can get it powder coated......
So it no longer has the galvanized protection..... If I could go back... should have had it powder coated then left alone.... This should be a good lesson for all.
If it's not bad.. just clean and powdercoat or Hammertone cause it will have to have an acid bath to remove all galvanized finish before zincing.
OK I'm done.....
Going to have the tubs powder coated then on my 39 (yes this sounds like a waste) going to hammertone over the powdercoat cause I like the “look” of Hammertone for the 39.
If they are really rusty... and you can get it done cheap( Had my shelves done for $50 a set)
it wouldn't be bad to have them acid washed then coated. But I'd paint over them to have them match everything else.
If I don't paint them.. my machines are gonna look like they have gold shelves in a
silver lined machine...then they will in time, like Josh says, scratch and turn....
You should look up the thread done on Hammertone shelving... a 6 month trial on Hammertone
shelves in use... still looked brand new!.... I was sold....
Anyone know that thread?.....
Good Luck
Also... On my 56.. the liner and shelves just look chalky... I'm just going to clean them, powdercoat the liner...then yep Hammertone the parts of the stack, shelves then over the liner so it all matches.
I had the tub in my 81 zinced (or was going to) and they couldn't do it.... AFTER they gave it a acid bath!!!!!
So it sits by the humidifier in the basement till I can get it powder coated......
So it no longer has the galvanized protection..... If I could go back... should have had it powder coated then left alone.... This should be a good lesson for all.
If it's not bad.. just clean and powdercoat or Hammertone cause it will have to have an acid bath to remove all galvanized finish before zincing.
OK I'm done.....
Title: Zin platting
Post by: TheGarbageHunter on April 07, 2006, 12:55:07 pm
Thanks Eric,
Base on everything (reading and feedback), I think I will have everything powder co. It is more expensive but I think in the long run worth the money. Just to give an idea of price, I've gotten 2 estimates: shelves and inner tub: 350. This includes sandblasting to remove galv. and powdering 2 colors, silver and then a gloss clear (both shops quoted me the same price 350.00; 200 for the tub and 150 for the shelves.
I had a bottle stack restored, in the past, by sodajerkworks,
came out great. But a bit expensive to do the Cavalier 72. Since I am trying to save money, I'm doing it myself. I guess I can have all large parts powder coted and then have the small parts zinc plated.
What do you think?
Base on everything (reading and feedback), I think I will have everything powder co. It is more expensive but I think in the long run worth the money. Just to give an idea of price, I've gotten 2 estimates: shelves and inner tub: 350. This includes sandblasting to remove galv. and powdering 2 colors, silver and then a gloss clear (both shops quoted me the same price 350.00; 200 for the tub and 150 for the shelves.
I had a bottle stack restored, in the past, by sodajerkworks,
came out great. But a bit expensive to do the Cavalier 72. Since I am trying to save money, I'm doing it myself. I guess I can have all large parts powder coted and then have the small parts zinc plated.
What do you think?
Title: Zin platting
Post by: collecture on April 07, 2006, 01:25:55 pm
Exactly! I think that if the stack mechanics were PC'd, it would be too thick. They don't get a lot of wear and tear anyway - at least not like the shelves and trays.
Title: Zin platting
Post by: BryanH on April 07, 2006, 04:29:13 pm
I tore my stack apart and painted it with Hammerite's hammertone silver. Looked great and as you've heard it wears real well.
And if you want to read about the tests Eric refers to here they are: Hammertone vs Krylon posts.
And if you want to read about the tests Eric refers to here they are: Hammertone vs Krylon posts.
Title: Zin platting
Post by: TheGarbageHunter on April 07, 2006, 05:07:36 pm
Great info. Hammer paint does look great but since I do not have a work shop, YET, I cannot paint at home 
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This time around I will zinc and powder, But I have a deal worked out to have my Vendo 81 restored later this year, plan on hammer paint several parts.
Will post pics when powder and zinc parts are in, about 2-3 weeks.
.This time around I will zinc and powder, But I have a deal worked out to have my Vendo 81 restored later this year, plan on hammer paint several parts.
Will post pics when powder and zinc parts are in, about 2-3 weeks.
Title: Zin platting
Post by: loman4ec on April 07, 2006, 08:21:03 pm
Hammer paint it with a spray can. It looks the same and is just as tough. That is all that I do on my machines and it looks great!
Title: Zin platting
Post by: TheGarbageHunter on April 07, 2006, 11:02:26 pm
Thanks Josh, will just have to try that. 
Title: Zin platting
Post by: davethebirdman on April 08, 2006, 02:07:27 am
I have been following this post with some interest and the linked ones.
I know we have hammerite paint here in the UK in spray cans and I have found Hammertone listed on the internet in tins also in the UK.
Are Hammertone and Hammerite the same product???
Dave
I know we have hammerite paint here in the UK in spray cans and I have found Hammertone listed on the internet in tins also in the UK.
Are Hammertone and Hammerite the same product???
Dave
Title: Zin platting
Post by: aspbear1 on April 08, 2006, 07:43:02 am
I agree with Eric. I used the the can spray (Cant remember if it was Krylon or Rustoleum) on my pepsi slider 3 years ago still perfect and it runs everyday. I also used it on my 56 square top 2 years still perfect and it cools everday. I just dont see the added expense unless you are in the restoration business of selling these machines...
Title: Zin platting
Post by: loman4ec on April 08, 2006, 08:12:57 am
Dave, They are pretty much the same. Those are just names from two different companies. I have foung that most all hammered paints are just as good.