Title: Look what i found
Post by: bcharlton on February 19, 2006, 08:07:15 pm
Here are the two of jukeboxes I got in an old farmhouse celler over the weekend. A Seeburg HF100R as well as a Wurlitzer 2500. They need a lot of TLC but they were given to me. This couple may be the nicest people I have ever met in my junkets. Here are a couple of pics. It may take me 6 months to restore the Seeburg. I will just try to clean up and get the Wurlitzer to play.
Good hunting!!
Brian C
Good hunting!!
Brian C
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Post by: dr galaga on February 19, 2006, 09:24:27 pm
Great find!
Is the chrome on the Seeburg pitted or just dirty?
Plus, I've always thought that the 2500 is weird looking juke!
Is the chrome on the Seeburg pitted or just dirty?
Plus, I've always thought that the 2500 is weird looking juke!
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Post by: bcharlton on February 19, 2006, 09:56:24 pm
Pitted chrome and yes the 2500 is a little weird. After I'm done cleaing it up, maybe it will look a little better. I think the R will be awesome when I'm finished with the restoration.
Brian
Brian
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Post by: Eric on February 19, 2006, 10:51:08 pm
Got to be the finds of the year and it's only Feb.!!!!!
Great score and I'm green with envy! How did this come about?!?
Did you run a want ad? Always like to know how these come about....
I run ads.... though it has really slowed as there are about 4 other guys that run
similiar ads in the free papers.
Way to go!
Have to add... we want to see the after pics by the end of the summer!
Great score and I'm green with envy! How did this come about?!?
Did you run a want ad? Always like to know how these come about....
I run ads.... though it has really slowed as there are about 4 other guys that run
similiar ads in the free papers.
Way to go!
Have to add... we want to see the after pics by the end of the summer!
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Post by: sodaworks on February 19, 2006, 11:23:51 pm
Nice score,
I sold a HF100R a few months ago that I restored.
I sold a HF100R a few months ago that I restored.
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Post by: sodaworks on February 19, 2006, 11:25:06 pm
These things are notorious for pitted chrome.
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Post by: davethebirdman on February 20, 2006, 02:56:20 am
I have a JL... sister to the R and its the best sounding Juke I've ever had or heard.
With those side speakers the R must be even better.
Dave
With those side speakers the R must be even better.
Dave
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Post by: bcharlton on February 20, 2006, 10:33:12 am
Terry:
You just can't be "free". I am thinking of sending in the amps as well as the mechenism to be professionally restored. I am ordering a veneer kit for the R and I can do the non-electrical restoration myself. It can't be much harder then a Stoner. I do need help on the mecheanicals and electricals and that is why I want to send out the amplifier and changer. Any ideas on where I could have them restored? I will send a few pics while I am doing the restoration.
ps I placed an add in a variety of newspapers in my area. I have been in contact with this couple for more than a year. They know that these jukes would be restored and my kids will be putting dimes in them before you know it.
Brian C
You just can't be "free". I am thinking of sending in the amps as well as the mechenism to be professionally restored. I am ordering a veneer kit for the R and I can do the non-electrical restoration myself. It can't be much harder then a Stoner. I do need help on the mecheanicals and electricals and that is why I want to send out the amplifier and changer. Any ideas on where I could have them restored? I will send a few pics while I am doing the restoration.
ps I placed an add in a variety of newspapers in my area. I have been in contact with this couple for more than a year. They know that these jukes would be restored and my kids will be putting dimes in them before you know it.
Brian C
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Post by: bcharlton on February 20, 2006, 10:34:30 am
Tery:
By the way, great job on the restoration.
Brian
By the way, great job on the restoration.
Brian
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Post by: sodaworks on February 20, 2006, 10:39:34 am
I use "Brad Franks Restorations" in Chattsworth, Ca. (818-709-2157) for all my jukebox amplifiers and changers. Brad is an honest guy and does top quality restoration work. Tell Brad I sent you. 
Title: Look what i found
Post by: BrianB on February 21, 2006, 07:30:33 am
BrianC -
I'm in the middle stages of restoring a Seeburg M100B. If you are interested in getting your Master Amplifier recapped/repaired to send it to Jukebox Friday Night in Cochran, Georgia. The man who runs the outfit is Bill Bickers. He's been repairing amps and the like for over 30 years and has a super fast turn around time (4 days!)
I recapped/repaired my Master Amplifier for my Seeburg 146 that I traded and had no problems. I really didn't have the time for the "B" Amp. So I sent it off to Bill for some TLC and had it back less than a week later.
If you need any references for parts or people that can help, give me a shout! Sounds like Terry knows what's goin' on also.
I'm in the middle stages of restoring a Seeburg M100B. If you are interested in getting your Master Amplifier recapped/repaired to send it to Jukebox Friday Night in Cochran, Georgia. The man who runs the outfit is Bill Bickers. He's been repairing amps and the like for over 30 years and has a super fast turn around time (4 days!)
I recapped/repaired my Master Amplifier for my Seeburg 146 that I traded and had no problems. I really didn't have the time for the "B" Amp. So I sent it off to Bill for some TLC and had it back less than a week later.
If you need any references for parts or people that can help, give me a shout! Sounds like Terry knows what's goin' on also.
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Post by: on February 21, 2006, 12:41:22 pm
Bill Bickers is a great guy, who does great work on amps and receivers.
if you have the time you can order cap kits for the amp and the receiver from bill and restore the amp and receiver by yourself. it`s not that difficult.
if you have the time you can order cap kits for the amp and the receiver from bill and restore the amp and receiver by yourself. it`s not that difficult.
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Post by: bcharlton on February 21, 2006, 07:15:54 pm
Thanks for the "sound Advise". I broke down the Seeburg to the cabinate. That was more work then I expected. I thought restoring 180 indiidule candy trays was time consuming. I will try re-capping the amp and getting new tubes
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Post by: BrianB on February 22, 2006, 06:46:10 am
BrianC -
On your Master Ampflifier, if you want to keep a "stock" appearance from the outside, I would recommend leaving the metal can cap's in place. You can either cut the wires and use terminal strips to mount the new lytics underneath or you can remove the cans, gut them and then stuff the new cap's inside.
I take it from your last post that you've read some of Bill's articles, he's awesome. His kits are really good and if for some wierd reason it's missing a cap or a value is wrong, he'll make it right. When I was about 99% of the way done restoring my Master Amp for my 146 I found out that one of my transformers had a bad secondary. Turned out it's considered one of the rarer ones around. I called Bill and within three days I had used but good one in place for a great price.
On your Master Ampflifier, if you want to keep a "stock" appearance from the outside, I would recommend leaving the metal can cap's in place. You can either cut the wires and use terminal strips to mount the new lytics underneath or you can remove the cans, gut them and then stuff the new cap's inside.
I take it from your last post that you've read some of Bill's articles, he's awesome. His kits are really good and if for some wierd reason it's missing a cap or a value is wrong, he'll make it right. When I was about 99% of the way done restoring my Master Amp for my 146 I found out that one of my transformers had a bad secondary. Turned out it's considered one of the rarer ones around. I called Bill and within three days I had used but good one in place for a great price.
Title: Look what i found
Post by: audiobeer on February 22, 2006, 09:30:40 am
What are the "R"s selling for these days?
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Post by: BrianB on February 22, 2006, 10:40:54 am
On the low end you can get an "R" for $500-$600. The average that I've seen them go for lately on Ebay and at auction/swap meets has been between $850-$1300 and that's for an unrestored box in very nice condition.
The low end boxes being sold at higher volume places are priced that way because they really know what they have into it and they know how the market is for a good restorable box that somebody is willing to invest some coin into.
Conversely, just like soda pop machines, you have guys that will sell you one of their restorations for $5000. They are really nice and turn key, but also like soda pop machines you have to really scrutinize what somebody considers a "restoration". There are people out there that will sell a box that has had the amp/selection receiver rebuilt and all of the exterior cosmetics redone but when you open the cabinet up, nothing has been done except a general cleaning. Not good.
You can also get lucky and find a private seller who just want's to get rid of it for super cheap (or free!) and you end up getting a steal.
The low end boxes being sold at higher volume places are priced that way because they really know what they have into it and they know how the market is for a good restorable box that somebody is willing to invest some coin into.
Conversely, just like soda pop machines, you have guys that will sell you one of their restorations for $5000. They are really nice and turn key, but also like soda pop machines you have to really scrutinize what somebody considers a "restoration". There are people out there that will sell a box that has had the amp/selection receiver rebuilt and all of the exterior cosmetics redone but when you open the cabinet up, nothing has been done except a general cleaning. Not good.
You can also get lucky and find a private seller who just want's to get rid of it for super cheap (or free!) and you end up getting a steal.
Title: Look what i found
Post by: audiobeer on February 22, 2006, 09:14:20 pm
Well if anybody ever has a "R", "J" or a "G" and especialy a "C" and it works please let me know!
Title: Look what i found
Post by: bcharlton on February 22, 2006, 11:02:00 pm
Just an update on the restoration of the Seeburg. After just three days here is where I'm at. I ordered a veneer and re-cap kit. I am going like a bat out of #### and I do not know what I am doing. Is there a bottle chute or a condensor deck on these things. Oh, I will picking up my Seeburg C (if the deal still goes through) next week. I have to write a check for this one however. I love the price on the C but it is not a done deal until it is in the back of your truck.
Wish me luck.
Brian C
Wish me luck.
Brian C
Title: Look what i found
Post by: bcharlton on February 22, 2006, 11:07:29 pm
There are a lot more pieces then I expected. Anyone volunteer to help me put this thing back together?
Brian C
Brian C
Title: Look what i found
Post by: audiobeer on February 22, 2006, 11:51:50 pm
I have a roll of white oak veneer that I was going to use on A "B" but i just stained and refinished the cabinet instead. Is that what you are using?
Title: Look what i found
Post by: davethebirdman on February 23, 2006, 02:46:50 am
Brian
I did exactly the same as you with my JL. The picture of the cabinet sitting there looking veyr sorry for itself reminds me of mine. I took it to a shop to be re-vennered because the man selling the kit wouldn't ship overseas. Probably worked out cheaper in the long run. When the workerasked me what it was it just didn't believe me. Once it was all back together again I sent him a picture and he now displays it in his shop.
Taking apart was the easy bit. Putting it together again was more difficult. However, mine was running well so I didn't need to fiddle with mech etc. Hope you took lots of pictures.
Dave
I did exactly the same as you with my JL. The picture of the cabinet sitting there looking veyr sorry for itself reminds me of mine. I took it to a shop to be re-vennered because the man selling the kit wouldn't ship overseas. Probably worked out cheaper in the long run. When the workerasked me what it was it just didn't believe me. Once it was all back together again I sent him a picture and he now displays it in his shop.
Taking apart was the easy bit. Putting it together again was more difficult. However, mine was running well so I didn't need to fiddle with mech etc. Hope you took lots of pictures.
Dave
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Post by: BrianB on February 23, 2006, 06:57:18 am
I had a local place do work up a quote for me for veneering my "B". They came back with $900. And that wasn't including the veneer! I was looking at about $100-$200 for veneer depending on if the guy could cover the whole cabinet using a 48"x96" sheet or if he would have to buy two.
So.......I'm getting ready to try veneering it myself. Shouldn't be to bad, not to many compound curves to contend with.
Audio - Do you have pictures of your "B" that you stained and refinished? I'd love to see some. I'm always open to suggestion and staining/finishing it might be an option for mine.
Here's some pic's of what it looked like after I gutted it but prior to striping the Di-noc Zebrawood finish:
So.......I'm getting ready to try veneering it myself. Shouldn't be to bad, not to many compound curves to contend with.
Audio - Do you have pictures of your "B" that you stained and refinished? I'd love to see some. I'm always open to suggestion and staining/finishing it might be an option for mine.
Here's some pic's of what it looked like after I gutted it but prior to striping the Di-noc Zebrawood finish:
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Post by: BrianB on February 23, 2006, 06:58:18 am
A couple more:
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Post by: audiobeer on February 23, 2006, 10:05:46 am
Here's a couple.
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Post by: audiobeer on February 23, 2006, 10:07:42 am
Here's a couple more. This was a 2 year project with over $3000 in reciepts. I never used the veneer I bought from Victory Glass.
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Post by: audiobeer on February 23, 2006, 10:32:16 am
I sold it on Ebay for $1600. 
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Post by: davethebirdman on February 23, 2006, 11:53:32 am
Brian
I'm really suprised you got quoted so much to have it done. Can't remember exactly what I paid but it was nowhere near that and prices here are usually lots more than over with you. I'd try another quote.
There were a couple of people selling kits for the R a while back. All you need to re-do it. Must have come down in price now.
The only problem with the R & JL is the rounding on the bottom.
Dave
I'm really suprised you got quoted so much to have it done. Can't remember exactly what I paid but it was nowhere near that and prices here are usually lots more than over with you. I'd try another quote.
There were a couple of people selling kits for the R a while back. All you need to re-do it. Must have come down in price now.
The only problem with the R & JL is the rounding on the bottom.
Dave
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Post by: bcharlton on February 23, 2006, 02:48:47 pm
Audiobeer
I was planning on using both the white vaneer oak as well as dark. Do you buy in in rolls?
BCharlton
I was planning on using both the white vaneer oak as well as dark. Do you buy in in rolls?
BCharlton
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Post by: audiobeer on February 23, 2006, 04:04:33 pm
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Post by: audiobeer on February 23, 2006, 04:07:28 pm
I bought mine through victory glass. They are on line. When I bought it, it was about $150 shipped for a 4 X 8 sheet rolled with paperback.
http://www.victoryglass.com/victoryframe.asp
http://www.victoryglass.com/victoryframe.asp
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Post by: bcharlton on February 24, 2006, 12:16:24 am
For my R, I am using Maurice. He is someone who produces a limited quanity and does this as a hobby. After examining a few "kits", I liked his the best. Here is his link. Please don't bug him until mine is shipped out. Just kidding.
http://www.mauricemeyer.com/jukebox/
Ps Great restoration on the B
Brian C
http://www.mauricemeyer.com/jukebox/
Ps Great restoration on the B
Brian C