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Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: jasmine64 on August 13, 2005, 07:45:43 am
Ok, I pulled off the grill from the back of the Cavalier CD 22, (depends on how you look at it, the back can also be the front it has bolts on both sides for the cap catchers).

Anyway, there are a couple places on the compressor that looks like something has gotten hot at one time and melted the plastic casing. So I need some guidence on where to go from here. I couldnt stay out there too long the mosquitoes were horrible. So I'll look again this morning.






Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: jasmine64 on August 13, 2005, 07:47:09 am
Maybe this is a better angle.


Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: jasmine64 on August 13, 2005, 07:49:14 am
I sent Eric at global compressor an email with same pics a few days ago havent heard from him yet. Maybe he can give me some input on what's the cause and fix.


Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: 90grad on August 13, 2005, 08:18:38 am
Jas,

That plastic casing is the cover for the relays for the compressor.  You can take the metallic clip off and remove the cover.  This way, you can inspect the relays, wires, and electrical posts underneath.  Hopefully, nothing cooked under there, although they are replaceable items.


Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: MoonDawg on August 13, 2005, 12:31:12 pm
Jasmine.....Good news. You have an updated compressor deck.  The plastic side covers were not used until the age of the square corner uprights.  The suspended fan motor is a signature of Cavalier, 64 / 96?  Much better unit than originaly came with your machine.
      Replace the burnt wire and try it again. I believe the overload would have saved the compressor from damage.






Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: jasmine64 on August 13, 2005, 02:48:49 pm
Well that 's good news.

I wont be able to get a look at it until next week. I pulled a muscle moving a metal futon, now my back hurts unbelievably bad. It's the 2nd time this summer! The last time was opening a 50 lb container of pool chlorine.


Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: Creighton on August 13, 2005, 04:52:30 pm
Sorry to hear. That does hurt. Get better quick!!
Creighton


Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: sodaworks on August 14, 2005, 12:25:08 pm
Jasmine, I hope you have a speedy recovery :)


Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: jasmine64 on August 14, 2005, 09:32:44 pm
Quote
Good news. You have an updated compressor deck.


So what kind of coolant would be used in this compressor? It needs recharging anyway so
would it take the new stuff and if so, would it need to be upgraded?

Did that make sense? Must be the pain pill. NOTE Never move a full size metal futon by yourself.






Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: BrianB on August 15, 2005, 06:50:38 am
Even though it is considered "newer" by virtue of not being original and having a plastic cover over the wiring instead of the metal type, it is more than likely charge with R-12.

Hope your back heals up soon and you get back into the swing of things! :D


Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: johnieG on August 15, 2005, 07:21:05 am
( Patient) Owch! Doctor...it hurts when I do this... (Doctor) well don't do that! :p

Are you sure the system's dicharged? just curious, once you get the wiring straighted out, doublecheck to see if the unit will run, it may just be that the electrical problem was causing the cooling (lack-of) issue...But if you indead have a dischaged system, you'll have to determine why it is, (leaks, broken lines, etc.).

The Compressor's was most likely charge with R12, as for converting it over to say R134a, that would require you to seek the help of a qualified refrigeration tech. the gauges, vacuum pump & tools are quite a chunk of change for a single machines conversion, however to save on the expence of totally converting the compressor system over to R134a, you could have them use an R12 compatible substitute, such as Hotshot, R409, etc. this would save some time (& money) ,and  I'd suggest at least (on an economy budget) having a new filter/dryer installed on the suction line. food for thought. :;):


Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: jasmine64 on August 15, 2005, 08:41:55 am
Thanks, I'll get someone over to take a look. I'l make a list so he will only make one trip.

Atleast I can stand straight today. I keep forgetting I'm not as young as I once was. :D


Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: MoonDawg on August 15, 2005, 10:24:19 am
Hauling around that Cavalier CD 22 a few weeks ago didn't help your back much either.   :D


Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: jasmine64 on August 15, 2005, 11:26:44 am
My hubby moved it for me. Thank goodness!!

I dont think it was healed (my back) from when I injured it hauling that 50 lb.
chlorine pail up the steps to the pool.
He put it on a plant stand that has wheels, now all I do is roll it.


Title: Little bit concerned.
Post by: on August 15, 2005, 04:46:49 pm
I feel your pain! Went  through all of that and finally had surgery in January. Much better now. I have to becareful not to overdue it. The key to recovery is time. Hope you get better