Title: Freon substitute
Post by: 90grad on May 27, 2005, 08:03:27 am
All,
Is there an acceptable substitute for R-12 to avoid the high $$ of a conversion or a certified R-12 technician?
Is there an acceptable substitute for R-12 to avoid the high $$ of a conversion or a certified R-12 technician?
Title: Freon substitute
Post by: MoonDawg on May 27, 2005, 11:00:18 am
R-134 is a substitute for R-12, but there is no substitute for a certified technician. We don't do this stuff ourselves.
Title: Freon substitute
Post by: 90grad on May 27, 2005, 11:08:43 am
Glen,
I agree. Luckily, my brother works in the HVAC field. I haven't talked with him about the machines yet and wanted to get some potential info before I did. He works on the commercial end rather than the residential stuff.
I agree. Luckily, my brother works in the HVAC field. I haven't talked with him about the machines yet and wanted to get some potential info before I did. He works on the commercial end rather than the residential stuff.
Title: Freon substitute
Post by: Skeleton Man on May 27, 2005, 02:32:03 pm
What about R-409 ? (which I beleive can replace R-12 without any change) I thought R-134 required conversion ? (ie. replace oil, seals, etc)
Title: Freon substitute
Post by: MoonDawg on May 27, 2005, 03:11:01 pm
Yes, I stand corrected. Thanks Mr. Bones
Title: Freon substitute
Post by: Skeleton Man on May 27, 2005, 04:07:03 pm
Any time MD 
Title: Freon substitute
Post by: vend_dr on May 27, 2005, 09:00:59 pm
I have had very good luck using R416a as a direct replacement for R12 in my vending machines at work.
Title: Freon substitute
Post by: Skeleton Man on May 28, 2005, 10:00:59 am
Cool.. literally !