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Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: davethebirdman on May 07, 2005, 02:49:53 pm Right,
Here I am sitting 4,000 miles away in England going green with envy at how you are all helping one another out and getting 1950's roundtops at silly prices. I have now admitted defeat and put the idea of getting hold of another soda machine to the back of my mind. Shipping, even on the slow boat via China makes it far too expensive. So, I've decided that I might start up a collection of original Coke bottles (not the same I know, please don't feel sorry for me. I hate pitty) This is my newbie question. I have a vendo 39 with an original drum fitted. I beleive they vended 6oz bottles. Could someone plse confirm that one for me. The second dumb question is, what are 6.5 oz bottles?? Will they fit my machine?? Looking on Ebay its clear to see that each State had its own bottling set up, so, if I wanted to start a collection, of USABLE bottles. (I intend to fill them) What sort of prices should I be paying for decent original 50's bottles?? I take it some are more collectable than others. What should I be looking out for?? What sort of questions should I be asking condition wise. I told you they were silly questions but plse cut me a bit of slack. I do come from the other side of the planet where things are done differently. Cheers Dave Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: MoonDawg on May 07, 2005, 03:36:36 pm Dave. The embossed bottles were identified by the city that the bottling plant was located, not by different states. Buy as many different bottles as you can for a buck a piece. Then pay what you must as you complete your collection.
Condition is rated by chips and casewear. That is they went through a lot of wear as they were constantly being cleaned and refilled. The embossed letters usually take a beating. A seldom refilled bottle will display nice letters, when filled That is only a fraction of info. Pre 1923 are valuable and post 1960 painted labels are not. I'm sure someone has published a book or website about this. Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: Eric on May 07, 2005, 09:50:43 pm Yeah.... I have about 50 bottles.... Pitty?..... Heck collecting them is just as cool! All mine are from
different bottling plants from through out the U.S.A. and a couple from Alaska... Could have gotten one from Hawaii but it was too rough.... You'll get hooked..... And also watch for ones on eBay dated Dec 25 1923.... they brought those out in the late 1980s for a promotion tons of those on eBay.... (these “repros” don't have the large cities embossed on the bottom and the glass is thinner) These old bottles are works of art.... like a rare vase.... (But then I'm an artist so I really get into the design and form thing) Yeah chips and recycled wear is a biggy.... (Don't know why bottle collectors call it case wear....the cases were wood and they should know that, that wouldn't hurt them.... Moondawgs right they litterally took a beating when ran through the cleaning and refilling process. The wear is from them banging against each other down the conveyor. I have 4 nos yellow cases 3 filled and one almost with mint to near mint bottle.... they look killer next to a machine. Watch for crates and good bottles and maybe a picnic cooler. It's all good! Do you ever get over here for a trip?...... Sound funny but if you do plan it around a swap meet or convention..... Good Luck! Eric Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: DanV on May 07, 2005, 10:13:47 pm 6.5 oz bottles will fit your vendo 39. Now they are 8 oz bottles. Same size, thinner glass (better glass technology). I remember as a kid seeing the little cokes as 6.5 ouncers with white lettering, while you would see an occasional 6 ouncer with embossed lettering (clear, not white). i would always buy the 6.5 ouncer--that 1/2 ounce made a big difference!!
Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: davethebirdman on May 08, 2005, 02:09:36 pm Thanks for my lesson. I now have a better idea of what to look out for. Eric, where did you get your NOS crate from?? I've been looking at them too and most are bashed up. One chap in England has one on Ebay UK at the moment for £30.00 ($60.00) which has seen better days.
There is also an Ebay auction for 35 6oz bottles. I have asked the seller to get me a price for shipping. If its reasonable I'll try and snap them up to start the collection going. At the moment I jst want to fill them and use them but like everything I start collecting it will no doubt beocme and obsession and cost me an arm & a leg. Cheers Dave Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: Eric on May 08, 2005, 10:52:34 pm The crates I find in auctions and flee markets..... The next super nice one I come across... I'll let you know
they've been around $25-30 bucks... You'll want one with deviders to keep the bottles nice. I'll watch for you..... Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: on May 09, 2005, 11:44:17 am
Is it true that it's better glass technology or they just decided that they didn't need as much glass? i ask because while most of you probably use 8 oz. bottles for V-39s and slant shelf machines, both of which you pull them out and they don't DROP down, I'm considering putting some in my V-216MD, which does drop down bottles. I just wondered if the 8 oz. are as break resistant in a drop down machine as the 6.5 oz. Long story short: Are the 8 oz. bottles more fragile than the 6.5 oz.? My guess has always been "yes", because modern (8 oz.) glass bottles no longer go in drop-down machines. But if there really has been a technological advance, then they should be fine right? I clearly have no clue, so I' just looking for some confident information. Thanks in advance. Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: Eric on May 09, 2005, 02:05:33 pm I would say they are more fragile!..... Be careful.....
Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: on May 09, 2005, 02:49:19 pm Yeah, I will probably just use them in my Cavalier CS-64 slant shelf machine and forget about putting them in the drop-down machine.
Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: glassbottlesrule on May 09, 2005, 07:25:12 pm Kito, I used to use them in a vendo 44 I had with no problem.
Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: DanV on May 09, 2005, 08:04:12 pm They are just as durable. I asked my coke guy, who delivers them to my brother's grocery store. He says there are a lot of his clients who use them in drop down machines without a problem
Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: sodaworks on May 09, 2005, 11:05:15 pm I collect coke bottles also, I mostly collect the pre-hobble skirt bottles. Some of these bottles run hundreds of bucks.
Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: davethebirdman on May 10, 2005, 02:54:29 am Well
I was hoping to kick start my collection with the 35 Embossed Bottles currently on sale on Ebay. The chap selling them has been very helpful in trying to obtain shipping quotes. The lowest being $240.00 to England. So guess i'll knock that on the head. It would have probably been cheaper for me to get a flight over, pick them up in person and fly home again. I also won an ebay auction for a wooden crate and a couple of bottles. Shipping on that was very reasonable. I'd have to wait a year and a day whilst it makes its way over on a boat via every corner on earth, but I was happy to do that. Just got an e-mail from the seller saying that the US Post Office won't ship the crate by sea. Unusally considering I've had a wide variety of objects shipped voer in the past which are larger and heavier than a couple of glass bottles and a wooden crate. My new found hobby is unfortunately not getting off to a good start. Perseverance is going to be the name of this game. Dave Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: loman4ec on May 10, 2005, 07:52:00 am Dave,
I know it would cost slightly more but if you are having problems with people shipping stuff why don't you have your things shipped to one of us and then we will ship it to you the right way. Once I get relocated I would love to help you with your hobby. Just a thought. Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: davethebirdman on May 10, 2005, 10:41:30 am Hello Josh
that's a very kind offer and I may well take you up on that one day. The chap selling the bottles is one of life's nice guys. He really wants to help out but just can't find anyone that will ship it at a reasonable price. Shipping in the US works out at under $20.00 I figured on paying twice that to the UK. The distnce East to West Coast is the same as across the Atlantic give or take a few feet. So why such a gross amount of money? I am on my way over to the US in Sept so I might hang on and see what I can do when I get there. Thanks again its really appreciated Dave Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: Eric on May 10, 2005, 12:31:44 pm If you're visiting someone here.... get their address and have
your eBay winnings shipped there and pick them up when you get here. How long will your stay be?.... Maybe we all can bottle hunt for you and have some ready when you get here. Eric Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: davethebirdman on May 10, 2005, 02:59:35 pm Hi Eric
that's not a bad idea. The only problem is a wife and two kids under 5. I think that I will be carrying twice as much back with me as I go with. Clothing etc is just too good to pass up. Not sure the airline would be too pleased with a couple of dozen Cola Bottles rattling around in the overhead locker either. I am house exchanging so will contact the host to see if she minds me using it as a drop off zone. Dave Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: Eric on May 10, 2005, 04:40:21 pm for a couple crates and a few bottles.... I'd buy a cheap large suitecase when your
over here and put them in it.... heck...rap the bottles in the new clothes and stuff you buy... A little bit of a hassle but it's just an extra bag. When I was working in Kansas for SBC (they flew me there) I bought old drive in speakers, a couple bottles, a 18X24 sign and a nice crate I rapped and packaged it all up, double boxed it and it made it on the plane... a Hassle to carry but was worth it. Eric Title: A bit more education please - bottles Post by: Creighton on May 10, 2005, 06:50:30 pm Eric is spot on. We always end up bringing clothes and bottles back from oversea's travels. Wrap in clothes and mix between checked and carry on. Good stuff goes in carry on. Funny how just about every trip these days the checked baggage comes up short something. Also also ask the airline you should be allowed at least two checked for each passenger. The extra bag charge will be less than the shipping you have been quoted. Hope this helps.
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