Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on May 02, 2005, 11:04:53 am
O.k., so it isn't mine yet, but it will be.
Here's the exciting story:
So one day last week I drove a 12 1/2 hours round trip to pick up a V-83 that I had gotten for an absolute steal on eBay. With an audio book playing on my iPod, the long drive was actually a breeze (surprisingly).
Anyway, along the way, in a town just 3 hours from mine, as I drove past, I saw an antique store in a small town. I knew that I didn't have time to stop, but decided that if I had a few spare minutes on the way back I would drop in there.
So after picking up the V-83 and returning back, as I passed the store, I stopped and went in. It was just a typical antique store, nothing special, no Coke machines or signs, and so I bought the one 10 oz. Coke bottle that they had. The cashier was a nice older lady who just worked there (she didn't own the place).
Well, after paying for the bottle and as I was walking out the door, I thought that I'd ask just for the heck of it, so I said, "You don't happen to know anyone around here that would have an old Coca-Cola machine that they'd like to sell, do you?"
She looked at me like how could you know, and then she said, "well yes, I do at my house". She said that they'd had it for a very long time that they hadn't used it for awhile, but that it worked great back in the day, that they used it next to their bar in their basement.
Getting very excited, but trying badly not to show it, I asked if it had a round top or a flat top. She said that it had a round top. I asked if the bottles fell straight down or if it has one of those skinny glass doors on it. She said the glass door. I asked if it had a coin box on the front and she said yes.
She said that the paint is pretty good and that the painted raised letters at the top were not faded or anything.
At this point I can hardly breathe!
Then she pulled out a Coca-Cola memorabilia book from the store that we were in and she started to look for the model. I saw that the book listed the inflated, mint condition, unrealistic prices and suddenly my heart sank. I figured she would go by the expensive prices in the book.
I didn't help her find the model, because I didn't want her to see what huge unrealistic price the book would certainly put on it. She didn't see the machine in that book and said she'd have to go home and talk to her husband and that I could call her for more details and a price then.
Well, after a sleepless night, I called her and it turns out that it is a Vendo 110. Not a V-81, but still very nice. It is not a self-serve, as it has a coin box on the front. She said that it is all red except for the embossed script on the top, which made me a little sad, because I (and probably most people) like the white top ones better than the all-red model, but oh well. She said that she believes it has all of the shelves and that it is in her garage and no longer in her basement (thank God!).
Then she asked me how much I'd pay for it. I hate that, because I don't want to insult people, but I also don't want to start out too high. So I said a crazy low number and she said that she wanted to get $500 for it! I said that I would need to see it in person, but that she should plan on me buying it for that. Whoo-hoo!
So even though I don't really have the money yet and I have no room to store it, I am very excited.
Just goes to show you that it pays to ask any and everyone if they have old machines.
What do you all think. Did I do well?
Here's the exciting story:
So one day last week I drove a 12 1/2 hours round trip to pick up a V-83 that I had gotten for an absolute steal on eBay. With an audio book playing on my iPod, the long drive was actually a breeze (surprisingly).
Anyway, along the way, in a town just 3 hours from mine, as I drove past, I saw an antique store in a small town. I knew that I didn't have time to stop, but decided that if I had a few spare minutes on the way back I would drop in there.
So after picking up the V-83 and returning back, as I passed the store, I stopped and went in. It was just a typical antique store, nothing special, no Coke machines or signs, and so I bought the one 10 oz. Coke bottle that they had. The cashier was a nice older lady who just worked there (she didn't own the place).
Well, after paying for the bottle and as I was walking out the door, I thought that I'd ask just for the heck of it, so I said, "You don't happen to know anyone around here that would have an old Coca-Cola machine that they'd like to sell, do you?"
She looked at me like how could you know, and then she said, "well yes, I do at my house". She said that they'd had it for a very long time that they hadn't used it for awhile, but that it worked great back in the day, that they used it next to their bar in their basement.
Getting very excited, but trying badly not to show it, I asked if it had a round top or a flat top. She said that it had a round top. I asked if the bottles fell straight down or if it has one of those skinny glass doors on it. She said the glass door. I asked if it had a coin box on the front and she said yes.
She said that the paint is pretty good and that the painted raised letters at the top were not faded or anything.
At this point I can hardly breathe!
Then she pulled out a Coca-Cola memorabilia book from the store that we were in and she started to look for the model. I saw that the book listed the inflated, mint condition, unrealistic prices and suddenly my heart sank. I figured she would go by the expensive prices in the book.
I didn't help her find the model, because I didn't want her to see what huge unrealistic price the book would certainly put on it. She didn't see the machine in that book and said she'd have to go home and talk to her husband and that I could call her for more details and a price then.
Well, after a sleepless night, I called her and it turns out that it is a Vendo 110. Not a V-81, but still very nice. It is not a self-serve, as it has a coin box on the front. She said that it is all red except for the embossed script on the top, which made me a little sad, because I (and probably most people) like the white top ones better than the all-red model, but oh well. She said that she believes it has all of the shelves and that it is in her garage and no longer in her basement (thank God!).
Then she asked me how much I'd pay for it. I hate that, because I don't want to insult people, but I also don't want to start out too high. So I said a crazy low number and she said that she wanted to get $500 for it! I said that I would need to see it in person, but that she should plan on me buying it for that. Whoo-hoo!
So even though I don't really have the money yet and I have no room to store it, I am very excited.
Just goes to show you that it pays to ask any and everyone if they have old machines.
What do you all think. Did I do well?
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: BrianB on May 02, 2005, 11:25:32 am
Thief........... 
Or better yet...Soon-to-be thief!!! 
Or better yet...Soon-to-be thief!!! Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Bob K on May 02, 2005, 11:55:57 am
YES!!
Wait... Is this the lady that stores cinder blocks on top of her machine?
Seriously, I'd get back out there in a hurry, Kito!!
Wait... Is this the lady that stores cinder blocks on top of her machine?
Seriously, I'd get back out there in a hurry, Kito!!
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Creighton on May 02, 2005, 01:15:17 pm
Kito,
Lucky you!! Hope you are on your way.
Creighton
Lucky you!! Hope you are on your way.
Creighton
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on May 02, 2005, 04:05:08 pm
I can't go get it for a week or two (I just don't have the money right now. 
), but I made her promise to sell it to me for that price.
), but I made her promise to sell it to me for that price.Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on May 02, 2005, 04:07:38 pm
You know, I started out getting more machines awhile ago so that I could make money by reselling them, but now I want to keep each one of them for my collection, so this new hobby is becoming very expensive rather than a way to make money. But then, that probably describes just about all of us. If I can just get some doubles, then I won't mind selling one of them.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: MoonDawg on May 02, 2005, 05:28:54 pm
Kito, if look at each machine as an investment rather than an expense it's like money in the bank.
I thought you were wasting your time chasing the 83 and you end up with it's twin ....the multivend 110. Good job.
These stories of the find, are great
I thought you were wasting your time chasing the 83 and you end up with it's twin ....the multivend 110. Good job.
These stories of the find, are great
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Kilroy on May 02, 2005, 08:06:55 pm
Nice work Kito! Ya done good
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Eric on May 02, 2005, 09:34:20 pm
A good lesson here... ALWAYS Ask! It doesn't hurt.... I have little 5"X8" WANTED signs I carry in my truck glove box... It has images of scanned soda machines at the top(Pepsi & 7up 81s, Vendo 44s and a few quikold coolers) then says
Wanted old soda machines in any condition then I have little tabs cut so they can
pull the number off with the words soda machines above the numbers so when they look at it in a week
they remeber what it was for. I ask to post these in every antique store I stop at. I've gotten good leads and a
few embossed sliders from this. Yeah I'm addicted.....
Way to go 'kito hope to see some images soon.... 110s are nice too (I prefer the all red machines)... gonna look
sweet in the dinning room next to the china cabinet!
Eric
Wanted old soda machines in any condition then I have little tabs cut so they can
pull the number off with the words soda machines above the numbers so when they look at it in a week
they remeber what it was for. I ask to post these in every antique store I stop at. I've gotten good leads and a
few embossed sliders from this. Yeah I'm addicted.....
Way to go 'kito hope to see some images soon.... 110s are nice too (I prefer the all red machines)... gonna look
sweet in the dinning room next to the china cabinet!
Eric
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: sodaworks on May 02, 2005, 10:35:50 pm
Nice score Kito!
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: joesquid on May 03, 2005, 10:49:09 pm
Great Job Kito!! Wish I had a spare $500 laying around, heck I'd loan it to you just so you could close the deal!
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on May 04, 2005, 10:42:27 am
`Kito,
great find I hope you`ll get it.
great find I hope you`ll get it.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on May 24, 2005, 11:25:50 am
| Quote (joesquid @ May 03 2005,10:49) |
| Great Job Kito!! Wish I had a spare $500 laying around, heck I'd loan it to you just so you could close the deal! |
Thanks Eric, so nice of you to even think it!
Thanks Lars.
Well it took me a long time, but I finally gathered up enough side cash to pay the $500 for the V-110.
So I called the nice lady and thank goodness she stayed true to her word and it is still mine and for that price.
So tomorrow morning I head out for the 6 hour (3 each way) road trip to bring it home. I'm very excited. Now I need to clear more space in the garage for it.
I'll post pics, etc. in the next 24 hours or so. Thanks for everyone's interest.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on June 01, 2005, 01:32:31 pm
Well I picked up the V-110 a week ago and it is in pretty darn good shape. Everything on the interior is there including the shelves (thank goodness) and it still has the original key! But here's the thing. I think the coin mech is inside the coin door, but I don't know for sure because I don't know how to open the coin door. 
The key unlocks the door, but since it has the lever coming out of it, I can't open the door because the lever prevents it from opening. Can you tell this is my first model with a lever?
So what do I do to the lever so that I can open the coin door?
I will write more about the machine and post pics sometime in the next few days.
Thanks!
The key unlocks the door, but since it has the lever coming out of it, I can't open the door because the lever prevents it from opening. Can you tell this is my first model with a lever?
So what do I do to the lever so that I can open the coin door?
I will write more about the machine and post pics sometime in the next few days.
Thanks!
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Ltransam on June 01, 2005, 01:52:06 pm
Hey,Kito
You have to push the lever counter - clockwise .You'll here a snap when you force it .Then it will lock back in when you bring it back around
Leonard
You have to push the lever counter - clockwise .You'll here a snap when you force it .Then it will lock back in when you bring it back around
Leonard
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Ltransam on June 01, 2005, 01:53:44 pm
Are was it clockwise:p eatherway it should break loose untill you return it to orginal possion
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Eric on June 01, 2005, 01:59:03 pm
Yeah turn it counter clockwise....
And congrats! And on my birthday too! Good to see someone got a machine on my birthday
(Wife said the 56 was my early birthday present... and anniversary present.... and Christmas present.... and..... Ahhhh you get the idea.... Anyway way to score!
And lets see some pics!!!!!!!!!!!
Eric
And congrats! And on my birthday too! Good to see someone got a machine on my birthday
(Wife said the 56 was my early birthday present... and anniversary present.... and Christmas present.... and..... Ahhhh you get the idea.... Anyway way to score!
And lets see some pics!!!!!!!!!!!
Eric
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on June 01, 2005, 02:37:06 pm
Thanks Leonard and Eric! I thought that might be what I should do, but after initially pushing it very lightly counter-clockwise (way too lightly, because I didn't want to break any great original parts) I thought I should wait and ask the group here. So after your good advice, I gave it a good hearty push and that did the trick.
Inside I found a nice original coin mech, three nickels from the early sixties and a bunch of bottlecaps.
Thanks so much. Happy birthday Eric!
Inside I found a nice original coin mech, three nickels from the early sixties and a bunch of bottlecaps.
Thanks so much. Happy birthday Eric!
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Eric on June 01, 2005, 02:42:28 pm
Ain't that cool?..... Are any of the caps cork lined and good enough to keep?
I had 2 Mercury head dimes stuck in a old rough 27... cool extras!
And thanks.... I'm 40!..... Wow!.... where did the 30s go?..........
Eric
I had 2 Mercury head dimes stuck in a old rough 27... cool extras!
And thanks.... I'm 40!..... Wow!.... where did the 30s go?..........
Eric
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: sodaworks on June 01, 2005, 06:35:43 pm
Eric happy birthday buddy, your wife is right, your present came early..
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 05, 2005, 12:12:23 am
O.k., so now I have finally gotten around to digging around in my V-110 that I bought and put in my garage several months ago. I am probably going to replace my V-216MD in the kitchen with the V-110 since the 216 only offers 3 selections whereas the V-110 has 10 selections.
So, while looking it over inside, I saw two things that stood out. I need all of your help on them...
First I saw this tiny switch just above the glass bottle door on the inside surface of the large door. The vending is mechanical of course and I can't figure out what this switch does. Please set me straight. See below:
So, while looking it over inside, I saw two things that stood out. I need all of your help on them...
First I saw this tiny switch just above the glass bottle door on the inside surface of the large door. The vending is mechanical of course and I can't figure out what this switch does. Please set me straight. See below:
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 05, 2005, 12:18:28 am
Also, everything looked fine in the bottom compartment (except for a TON of dust), but one thing troubles me...
All the wires go to and from the junction box, but there is one wire/cord coming from it that is cut off. What is that cord for?
It may be too hard for you to know from the bad photo, but please give it a try.
Thanks so much,
~Markito
All the wires go to and from the junction box, but there is one wire/cord coming from it that is cut off. What is that cord for?
It may be too hard for you to know from the bad photo, but please give it a try.
Thanks so much,
~Markito
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Ltransam on August 05, 2005, 05:44:17 am
Hello,Marlito
Dose the bottle door have a light in the frame ?The switch may
Be for it .As for the wire ??
Ltransam
Dose the bottle door have a light in the frame ?The switch may
Be for it .As for the wire ??Ltransam
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Bob K on August 05, 2005, 06:55:32 am
Kito, the switch is for the bottle door light. When I power up my 81, I have to reach in and hold that switch for the bottle door light to come on. Your 110 does have the fluorescent tube on the side of the bottle door, correct?
Bob
Bob
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 05, 2005, 09:06:39 am
Wow! Yes it does! The bulb was burnt out and I was standing to the left when I opened the bottle door, so I had no idea there was a panel with the bulb there. I'm used to squaretops, so I did look for a nightlight bulb at the top, but I never thought to look along the side.
I wonder if the cord to power he bulb is the one that is cut? Is the cord to the light visible on the V-110?
Thanks so much!
By the way, here's my machine. It is near perfect except for a tiny hole on the face (what a shame).
And by the way, those are soft moving blankets on top of the machine, not shards of glass and razor-wire.
~Markito
I wonder if the cord to power he bulb is the one that is cut? Is the cord to the light visible on the V-110?
Thanks so much!
By the way, here's my machine. It is near perfect except for a tiny hole on the face (what a shame).
And by the way, those are soft moving blankets on top of the machine, not shards of glass and razor-wire.
~Markito
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Eric on August 05, 2005, 09:43:20 am
Nice machine! You could have that hole fixed and the paint blended then you'd never know.
Or a well placed decal could do the trick too!
Eric
Or a well placed decal could do the trick too!
Eric
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: loman4ec on August 05, 2005, 10:02:03 am
Here is an idea for the wiring. Could it possibly been rewired at sometime. I was thinking that it could be the wire that would supply power to the coin mech but since this is a manual machine the technition just cut it off?
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Eric on August 05, 2005, 10:43:57 am
I don't know if this would help at all.... it's a wiring diagram for a 81....
Don't know how much different a 110 set up is.... but maybe you can figure it out...
Don't know how much different a 110 set up is.... but maybe you can figure it out...
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Eric on August 05, 2005, 10:47:19 am
Here's the text page...
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: MoonDawg on August 05, 2005, 10:55:18 am
Just below the light fixture in the door is a hole where the power cord is led. If anyone needed to remove the door they would need to cut it's power cord. Strongly suspect the cut wire is meant for the light.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: vendobaldtops on August 05, 2005, 02:12:04 pm
We don't get too many of these in California but I have seen some Vendo 56 and 81 machines that had little heaters near the coin mech so they would not lock-up during the cold winter. I can't remember how these were configured with the power box but maybe that is the wire for this 110
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: MoonDawg on August 05, 2005, 02:18:10 pm
Yes, in the V-81, the light and coin mech heater share the same power supply
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: johnieG on August 05, 2005, 05:39:27 pm
| Quote (Markito @ Aug. 05 2005,1:12) |
| O.k., so now I have finally gotten around to digging around in my V-110 that I bought and put in my garage several months ago. I am probably going to replace my V-216MD in the kitchen with the V-110 since the 216 only offers 3 selections whereas the V-110 has 10 selections. So, while looking it over inside, I saw two things that stood out. I need all of your help on them... First I saw this tiny switch just above the glass bottle door on the inside surface of the large door. The vending is mechanical of course and I can't figure out what this switch does. Please set me straight. See below: |
It initiates a reactor overload & core meltdown within 10 seconds of activation.
really though, it's the light switch for the bottle door lamp,
(it takes the place of an F2 starter) you push it & hold it in until you see the lamp flicker on, then release it. assuming the lamp, ballast, & wiring to it is intact, the lamp should stay lit.
I agree with the other guys, the cut wire is most likely for the door, suppling power for the bottle door lamp & the coinmech heater.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 10, 2005, 12:33:23 am
Well, you all were right. the cut cord used to be connected to wires in the door for the flourescent bulb and switch. I removed the metal door liner and dug through the old insulation and found two wires that were not connected to anything. I added some extra wire and connected them, plugged the old machine in and pressed the switch and ta-da! The old bulb lit right up! Thank you all so much for helping me solve the mystery.
The attached photo shows the area where I dug and found the severed lamp wires:
The attached photo shows the area where I dug and found the severed lamp wires:
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: dr galaga on August 10, 2005, 12:36:14 am
So it lights up, but does it cool?
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 10, 2005, 12:42:48 am
Now for my next issue...
I am new to the mechanical vends (all my others have electrical Jones plugs), so I am clueless here.
I put a coin in (dime, nickel, quarter, whatever) and it goes inand stops, but then doesn't drop into the coin box. Then when I press down on the big vend lever, I don't get a vend, but the coin then drops into the Coin Return.
Is this because the old coin mech is probably gunked up?
If so, I know that I had heard that some of them you can boil in soapy water. Can I do that with this one or will it get ruined that way? If so, which parts can I boil? And how would I remove it?
See the photo below to see which kind of coin mech it is.
I'm not a newbie, but I am when it comes to the V-110 and machines with no Jones Plug.
Also, can I change the price on it? I know the electrical CoinCo's have dip switches, but how do I check or change the price on this one?
Thanks SO much,
~ 'kito
I am new to the mechanical vends (all my others have electrical Jones plugs), so I am clueless here.
I put a coin in (dime, nickel, quarter, whatever) and it goes inand stops, but then doesn't drop into the coin box. Then when I press down on the big vend lever, I don't get a vend, but the coin then drops into the Coin Return.
Is this because the old coin mech is probably gunked up?
If so, I know that I had heard that some of them you can boil in soapy water. Can I do that with this one or will it get ruined that way? If so, which parts can I boil? And how would I remove it?
See the photo below to see which kind of coin mech it is.
I'm not a newbie, but I am when it comes to the V-110 and machines with no Jones Plug.
Also, can I change the price on it? I know the electrical CoinCo's have dip switches, but how do I check or change the price on this one?
Thanks SO much,
~ 'kito
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 10, 2005, 12:57:18 am
| Quote (dr galaga @ Aug. 10 2005,12:36) |
| So it lights up, but does it cool? |
Thank you for asking that Doc, because that leads me to my final issue... (actually, I'm sure there will be more)
I now have the machine all cleaned up and looking great.
I moved it out of my garage and swapped it in the kitchen with the V-216MD that was there. Now I will have 10 beverage choices in the kitchen, rather than just 3.
It has been said here many times before and I will say it again: Loading a new soda machine with bottles for your first time after restoring it is one of life's true joys. I had a blast.
It looks great, the lamp lights up, and it cools really well...
*BUT*
While the refrigeration chills and the upstairs fan works, the thermostat works, the compressor kicks in audibly and I can feel it runing, the compressor's fan doesn't move one bit. Even if I spin it freely.
So though the refrigeration cools (and thus I should be happy), I assume that the condenser will overheat without the fan working, which is very bad. So after running it long enough to see layers of frost, I shut it off to play it safe.
The (downstairs) fan is not stuck, it doesn't make a sound like it is trying to spin or anything, it just sits there. I have jiggled all the wires and nothing changes.
Now I know that burnt out fan motors are rather common in our trade, so I figure that is it. Am I probably right?
If so, I'm in luck. My V-216MD has the same exact fan. So I plan on removing them and swapping them. But It is such tight quarters down below, I haven't been able to unscrew the 3 screws that hold in the motor or the two bolts that hold in the motor's stand. Any advice on this would be appreciated.
Thanks all!
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Creighton on August 10, 2005, 01:20:39 am
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Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 10, 2005, 06:38:24 am
My new machine is all loaded up, but can't run. 
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Jim on August 10, 2005, 09:17:58 am
Mark,
Since the coins are dropping into the coinbox after attempting to vend, I would look to make sure the actuator shaft and circular cam are properly engaging (yellow circles). Looking closely, it appears they may be slightly out of adjustment... This can be modified by the screws in the green oval. My next post is from the manual and is an exploded view of the vending mech. You might also check that the operation of the lever and lock slide are working properly as well...
Since the coins are dropping into the coinbox after attempting to vend, I would look to make sure the actuator shaft and circular cam are properly engaging (yellow circles). Looking closely, it appears they may be slightly out of adjustment... This can be modified by the screws in the green oval. My next post is from the manual and is an exploded view of the vending mech. You might also check that the operation of the lever and lock slide are working properly as well...
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Jim on August 10, 2005, 09:18:48 am
Here's the Vending Mechanism from the manual:
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: BrianB on August 10, 2005, 09:35:17 am
'Kito,
The fan not turning could be caused by a myriad of things but the most common is a short/bad winding(s) which is not economically recoverable. It's cheaper just to replace unless it's an odd ball motor that's obsolete and unavailable, then you will have to investigat getting the motor winding re-wound.
The other more common, although much lower on the list, is a bad connection at the compressor. I've seen the wires seperate from their respective connectors thus rendering the compressor/condensor fan inoperable.
I would assume your problem is the first one listed which means you'd be out around $20 for a new motor again assuming that it's not a "freak/odd ball" motor.
Hope this helps! Oh yeah, congrats on the awesome find!!
The fan not turning could be caused by a myriad of things but the most common is a short/bad winding(s) which is not economically recoverable. It's cheaper just to replace unless it's an odd ball motor that's obsolete and unavailable, then you will have to investigat getting the motor winding re-wound.
The other more common, although much lower on the list, is a bad connection at the compressor. I've seen the wires seperate from their respective connectors thus rendering the compressor/condensor fan inoperable.
I would assume your problem is the first one listed which means you'd be out around $20 for a new motor again assuming that it's not a "freak/odd ball" motor.
Hope this helps! Oh yeah, congrats on the awesome find!!
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Jim on August 10, 2005, 09:39:18 am
If you're still having vending problems, here's some additional information to assist:
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: dr galaga on August 10, 2005, 10:25:56 am
Markito-
*Did you get the pdf that I sent - I know people sometimes have problems with hotmail and large attachements.
*Hows the lube job? Do you think some of the parts need oiled? I know when I got my 63, some areas felt like they would not vend. I oiled the vending mechanism and it works fine.
*Did you get the pdf that I sent - I know people sometimes have problems with hotmail and large attachements.
*Hows the lube job? Do you think some of the parts need oiled? I know when I got my 63, some areas felt like they would not vend. I oiled the vending mechanism and it works fine.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 10, 2005, 12:43:17 pm
Thanks guys, I'll keep looking into the coin mech/vend issue.
In the meantime, can any of you offer tips/advice on removing the fan motor without removing the whole compressor unit from the machine? Anyone unscrew it while in the machine?
Thanks,
~ 'kito
In the meantime, can any of you offer tips/advice on removing the fan motor without removing the whole compressor unit from the machine? Anyone unscrew it while in the machine?
Thanks,
~ 'kito
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 10, 2005, 02:01:10 pm
Well I removed the coin rejector part, boiled it in soapy water, wiped it out (removed a lot of dirt and grime), put it back in and still no progress.
I know how to rig electric vends for free-vend, but is there anyway to rig this V-110 mechanical for free vend so that we could at least use the machine until I get the coin rejector fixed? PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE tell me there is a way.
Thanks,
~M
I know how to rig electric vends for free-vend, but is there anyway to rig this V-110 mechanical for free vend so that we could at least use the machine until I get the coin rejector fixed? PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE tell me there is a way.
Thanks,
~M
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: dr galaga on August 10, 2005, 03:04:07 pm
| Quote (Markito @ Aug. 10 2005,3:01) |
| I know how to rig electric vends for free-vend, but is there anyway to rig this V-110 mechanical for free vend so that we could at least use the machine until I get the coin rejector fixed? |
I bet you could make it, but you would have to take some parts out of it. If you take the rejector out, what happens if you drop a coin down in to the actuator? Does it vend?
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: firemun on August 10, 2005, 08:46:07 pm
Markito,
Since you say the handle operates and drops coins in the box, setting to free play is not really gonna help the problem. However I agree with Jim in that the photo shows the vending rods that turn are not lined up correctly...and the door will shut with them out of whack.
If you get that working, here is a cheat to set it to free vend:
I think it is part number 20 on the diagram Dr. Galaga sent…it is a small lever with a spring that pushes it toward the “gears” on the vending mech. Take a short piece of stiff wire (# 14 copper or so) and bend it into a loop and loop it over the small lever. Then, just brace the other end of the wire into the slot of the housing. It will hold the spring/lever out and let the vending handle function.
Hope it works
Here are some photos also.
jeff
Since you say the handle operates and drops coins in the box, setting to free play is not really gonna help the problem. However I agree with Jim in that the photo shows the vending rods that turn are not lined up correctly...and the door will shut with them out of whack.
If you get that working, here is a cheat to set it to free vend:
I think it is part number 20 on the diagram Dr. Galaga sent…it is a small lever with a spring that pushes it toward the “gears” on the vending mech. Take a short piece of stiff wire (# 14 copper or so) and bend it into a loop and loop it over the small lever. Then, just brace the other end of the wire into the slot of the housing. It will hold the spring/lever out and let the vending handle function.
Hope it works
Here are some photos also.
jeff
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: firemun on August 10, 2005, 08:47:06 pm
Here is what the wire looks like.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: firemun on August 10, 2005, 08:48:37 pm
And here is the final photo of the wire holding the lever back keeping it from engaging.
Good Luck,
jeff
Good Luck,
jeff
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: dr galaga on August 10, 2005, 08:53:41 pm
Very cool!
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 11, 2005, 02:02:25 am
| Quote (firemun @ Aug. 10 2005,8:46) |
| Markito, Since you say the handle operates and drops coins in the box, setting to free play is not really gonna help the problem. However I agree with Jim in that the photo shows the vending rods that turn are not lined up correctly...and the door will shut with them out of whack. If you get that working, here is a cheat to set it to free vend: I think it is part number 20 on the diagram Dr. Galaga sent…it is a small lever with a spring that pushes it toward the “gears” on the vending mech. Take a short piece of stiff wire (# 14 copper or so) and bend it into a loop and loop it over the small lever. Then, just brace the other end of the wire into the slot of the housing. It will hold the spring/lever out and let the vending handle function. Hope it works Here are some photos also. jeff |
firemun, you are a GENIUS!!!!!!!
I did exactly as you described and it worked beautifully!
Mine actually has two small levers (with a thin crack between them) instead of one, and both needed to be held back. I didn't have any stiff wire, but I remembered a plant that had some thin green wire, made two separate loops for the two levers, lasoo'd them, pulled them back secured the wire and now I have free-vend that works everytime! See photo (sorry it is such bad quality. It was in a very low light setting).
Jim, we really need to post this info in the "Free-Vend Switch" thread in the Coin Mech forum, with a little intro that this is for mechanical V-110's and V-81's, etc. since only the electrical Jones plug situations have been covered there.
Wow! I am still overcome with happiness.
Firemun, you taught ALL of us a new trick. Thank you SO much!
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 11, 2005, 02:04:00 am
I have no idea why the above photo didn't post. I'll try again.
Looks like that didn't work either.
Now, to further explain. The coins actually didn't get to the coin box 99% of the time and the lever would barely turn.
BUT since the free-vend works so well with each turn of the lever, that proves that the lever is lined up correctly with the vend cam and that the issue must be with the coin mech/rejector.
So it is good to know which area has problems, but more importantly, I can now vend drinks from my machine while I try to eventually figure out the coin issue. I am very happy.
Looks like that didn't work either.
Now, to further explain. The coins actually didn't get to the coin box 99% of the time and the lever would barely turn.
BUT since the free-vend works so well with each turn of the lever, that proves that the lever is lined up correctly with the vend cam and that the issue must be with the coin mech/rejector.
So it is good to know which area has problems, but more importantly, I can now vend drinks from my machine while I try to eventually figure out the coin issue. I am very happy.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 11, 2005, 02:11:34 am
Now I just need to get that fan replaced.
Well I found my ratchet set and was able to remove the fan and it's stand from the V-110. Now in the morning I will try to do the same with the working fan in my V-216MD. If I can get that one out, I'll cut their wires and swap them.
I really hope that will solve the problem.
I'll let you know later in the day.
Thanks everyone for all your help and info.
Oh and firemun... you rock!
Well I found my ratchet set and was able to remove the fan and it's stand from the V-110. Now in the morning I will try to do the same with the working fan in my V-216MD. If I can get that one out, I'll cut their wires and swap them.
I really hope that will solve the problem.
I'll let you know later in the day.
Thanks everyone for all your help and info.
Oh and firemun... you rock!
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Creighton on August 11, 2005, 01:54:39 pm
Nice trick! Think Moondawg had a way also but don't remember how.
Where are the coins ending up? Coin return or stuck somewhere? If the handle was hard to turn sounds like they may have been sticking there. Might just be an alignment issue between the rejector and vend mech.
Sounds like it is coming along well. Congrats!!
Creighton
Where are the coins ending up? Coin return or stuck somewhere? If the handle was hard to turn sounds like they may have been sticking there. Might just be an alignment issue between the rejector and vend mech.
Sounds like it is coming along well. Congrats!!
Creighton
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: MoonDawg on August 11, 2005, 02:58:38 pm
Just below each lever is a threaded hole and the reason for the opening in the side of the crank handle backing plate. Use a #6-32 screw approx. 3/4 " long. As you screw each one in.......it pushes the bottom forward and the top of the rocker back.
Now guys- throw away those wires please!
Now guys- throw away those wires please!
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Creighton on August 11, 2005, 03:46:58 pm
There it is!! Thanks Glen.
Creighton
Creighton
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: firemun on August 11, 2005, 03:50:54 pm
Psssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss....that is the sound of my ego deflating. Moondawg made me feel unworthy of my engineering degree
I assume this is where you mean Moondawg (see circle). Was this put there to adjust so that larger coins could be used? Just curious.
Jeff
I assume this is where you mean Moondawg (see circle). Was this put there to adjust so that larger coins could be used? Just curious.
Jeff
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: firemun on August 11, 2005, 03:53:08 pm
Hmm, can't get the photo to attach...anyone else having trouble?
jeff
jeff
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 11, 2005, 06:21:56 pm
We've all had trouble posting pics today. I guess Jim had some technical issues on the board, but has now corrected them.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Jim on August 11, 2005, 07:18:58 pm
The arrow points to where the 6-32 screw(s) are to be inserted and threaded in until the arm raises enough to clear the lock bar so the crank handle will vend.
The one pictured has the solid arm whereas Mark stated his is split...
Hope this helps.
The one pictured has the solid arm whereas Mark stated his is split...
Hope this helps.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 11, 2005, 11:04:32 pm
Hi all, now that the glitch is gone that kept us from being able to post photos today, I post mine with wire again.
Sorry about the horrible picture quality. I had no flash and almost no light:
Sorry about the horrible picture quality. I had no flash and almost no light:
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 11, 2005, 11:09:19 pm
Thanks to MoonDawg (and firemun) I ran out right away and bout the two screws he described. So here is a better shot of the screws in the two holes that were mentioned. Interesting that other folks' V-110's have just one hole.
Bad luck for me, I tried several times and the screws didn't hold back the levers. I wonder if I should get new screws, but longer than 3/4"?
Anyway, here are the screws before being screwed all the way in:
Bad luck for me, I tried several times and the screws didn't hold back the levers. I wonder if I should get new screws, but longer than 3/4"?
Anyway, here are the screws before being screwed all the way in:
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: firemun on August 11, 2005, 11:43:17 pm
OK,
I am going to try once more to post this photo...it is of a coin mech that is not installed...maybe it will be a more clear shot since it is not surrounded by the housing.
I am going to try once more to post this photo...it is of a coin mech that is not installed...maybe it will be a more clear shot since it is not surrounded by the housing.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: joesquid on August 12, 2005, 03:01:59 am
WOW!!!!
WHERE did you find THAT??? Or did you have it restored? In any case, it's gorgeous!! If restored, who did it if you don't mind me asking? Is it out of a Vendo 39?
WHERE did you find THAT??? Or did you have it restored? In any case, it's gorgeous!! If restored, who did it if you don't mind me asking? Is it out of a Vendo 39?
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Ltransam on August 12, 2005, 06:03:11 am
Hello. Kito
I beleive the screws you installed are the wrong thread .Mine are machine thread eather 8=32 or 10=32 thread.Abought 3/4 in long .
Ltransam
I beleive the screws you installed are the wrong thread
.Mine are machine thread eather 8=32 or 10=32 thread.Abought 3/4 in long .Ltransam
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 12, 2005, 06:11:14 am
Hmmm. I got 6-32 like Moondawg said. But perhaps I should try 8-32 or 10-32 like you say.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Kevin C on August 12, 2005, 07:56:33 am
Markito
Keep plowing this ground so when I finally start on my V 110 all this good information will already be here.
My machine works on free vend by just turning the crank handle. Try turning the handle without the coin mech installed to free vend.
Kevin
Keep plowing this ground so when I finally start on my V 110 all this good information will already be here.
My machine works on free vend by just turning the crank handle. Try turning the handle without the coin mech installed to free vend.
Kevin
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: firemun on August 12, 2005, 08:10:20 am
| Quote (joesquid @ Aug. 12 2005,4:01) |
| WOW!!!! WHERE did you find THAT??? Or did you have it restored? In any case, it's gorgeous!! If restored, who did it if you don't mind me asking? Is it out of a Vendo 39? |
It is a restored coin mech. I had a buddy do and I do not mind saying who...but let me ask them before I post that info. He does coin mechs on the side ocassionaly and I do not want him to be suprised by requests from folks who may see it on this site. Hope that makes sense to you, I doubt the regulars would cause any concern but I have no idea how many others browse through here.
It is out of a Cav 51, but I think about every old machine until they started with change makers used about the same set up.
jeff
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: coke_and_stuff on August 12, 2005, 09:21:18 am
That coin mech looks great, Please do ask to post his info
Thanks
Joey
Thanks
Joey
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: MoonDawg on August 12, 2005, 10:01:51 am
Kito, if you can thread your screws in and out, you don't need a different size fastner. Unlike electronic mech.'s, this type is easy to understand. Closely watch where the tip of the screw is travelling. Then you can see why it dosn't line up, possibly the assembly is not tight.
Joe, you could probably restore your own mech.
I knew of two people who used to restore coin mech.'s for the public, but quit and went on to different things. Faced with no other choice, I decided to do my first one.
I had 2 of the same style coin mech.'s Vendo 39 and 81, (although the 39 has a longer shaft) Took main body of the 81 apart, carefully noting sequence, screws and springs. Separated parts to be plated. Same with slug rejector. Do not plate springs or magnets.
After these parts come back from gold plating, re-assemble in reverse order. By having the 39 mech. complete, I was able to refer back to it often.
Now, I break down and plate 5 to 6 coin mech.s all at the same time since the plating charge is the same as for 1.I still always keep one complete for reference. I DO NOT rebuild the large units, as I just don't have the time or patience.
But maybe someone in the group would like to learn and offer this service. I'd be glad to help with what I know.
Joe, you could probably restore your own mech.
I knew of two people who used to restore coin mech.'s for the public, but quit and went on to different things. Faced with no other choice, I decided to do my first one.
I had 2 of the same style coin mech.'s Vendo 39 and 81, (although the 39 has a longer shaft) Took main body of the 81 apart, carefully noting sequence, screws and springs. Separated parts to be plated. Same with slug rejector. Do not plate springs or magnets.
After these parts come back from gold plating, re-assemble in reverse order. By having the 39 mech. complete, I was able to refer back to it often.
Now, I break down and plate 5 to 6 coin mech.s all at the same time since the plating charge is the same as for 1.I still always keep one complete for reference. I DO NOT rebuild the large units, as I just don't have the time or patience.
But maybe someone in the group would like to learn and offer this service. I'd be glad to help with what I know.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Creighton on August 12, 2005, 01:52:33 pm
Great info Glen.
Firemun, that rejector looks better than new. Please see if your friend would restore a large door mech for me. I'm in no hurry.
Thanks All!
Creighton
Firemun, that rejector looks better than new. Please see if your friend would restore a large door mech for me. I'm in no hurry.
Thanks All!
Creighton
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 12, 2005, 01:55:00 pm
Well, the screws still don't work for me, so for now I have the screws in part way and then went back to the wire work around and I'm using the screws to anchor the wires too! How's that for integrating both methods!
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Eric on August 12, 2005, 01:59:34 pm
WOW!!!!!!!! I have 2 mechs that need restored. (81D & 56)
Yeah let us know if he'd restore them and what he charges....
Eric
Yeah let us know if he'd restore them and what he charges....
Eric
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: loman4ec on August 12, 2005, 02:16:40 pm
When I get to Minneapolis in two months I aam interested in learning this trade. How much does it normally cost to rebuild a mech?
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: MoonDawg on August 12, 2005, 02:27:55 pm
I think I used to pay $250 for small and $350 for large
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 12, 2005, 02:37:45 pm
O.k., so I have been working really hard on getting my V-110 up and running.
Just the other day when it was out in the garage, though the compressor fan didn't turn, the refrigeration cooled and frost formed on the tubes, etc., even with the door wide open.
So I spent a lot of time removing a near identical fan and stand from my old V-216MD and from the V-110. Then I tried to swap them, but I found that the fan blades on the V-216 were slightly too big to fit in the fan area of the V-110. So then I tracked down a place that sells fan motors for refrigeration. They charged twice as much as the $20 price thrown around here. I got it home and the mounting screws' heads were too soft and I couldn't unscrew them. So then I had to spend $50 on a Dremel tool and kit (I am excited to finally have my own) and eventually cut off the tops of the old screws. I removed the fan blades from the old motor, attached it to the new one, swapped the motors, mounted it in the V-110, wired it in and turned it on.
The fan immediately started spinning!!!!! I was like a proud parent at graduation. I was so excited! So I turned the thermostat up and closed the machine door.
I was so happy I did a little jig. I waited one long hour and opened it up to celebrate with a cold bottle and guess what? It was no colder in there than before!!!!!!!! 
1)The condenser is for sure running. I can feel the vibration, hear the sound and it gets warm.
2)The new condenser fan spins beautifully.
3)The thermostat seems to be working great. If I turn it down, the condenser and fan cycles off and if I crank it cold, they kick on.
4) I can hear the fan in the refrigeration unit above going.
5) It cooled just the day before out in the garage and we moved the machine very carefully while bringing it into the house.
By the way, I have a VERY stupid question to ask. I think I know the answer, but now I am doubting all my skills. Should the condenser fan in the lower compartment be sucking air over the condenser going left to right? Or should it be blowing air over the condenser from right to left?
Maybe my fan is running backwords or smething.
Please help me narrow down my problems. I have spent a ton of time getting this machine up and running, my wife is so sick of it, I was so excited when I thought I had it all fixed and I have now spent way more on materials and tools than I ever have before. I guess that $500 V-110 wasn't such a steal after all.
Please help me, I want cold bottles!!!
Thanks,
Clueless soda for brains
P.S. Really, I used to be good at working on these machines, really.
Just the other day when it was out in the garage, though the compressor fan didn't turn, the refrigeration cooled and frost formed on the tubes, etc., even with the door wide open.
So I spent a lot of time removing a near identical fan and stand from my old V-216MD and from the V-110. Then I tried to swap them, but I found that the fan blades on the V-216 were slightly too big to fit in the fan area of the V-110. So then I tracked down a place that sells fan motors for refrigeration. They charged twice as much as the $20 price thrown around here. I got it home and the mounting screws' heads were too soft and I couldn't unscrew them. So then I had to spend $50 on a Dremel tool and kit (I am excited to finally have my own) and eventually cut off the tops of the old screws. I removed the fan blades from the old motor, attached it to the new one, swapped the motors, mounted it in the V-110, wired it in and turned it on.
The fan immediately started spinning!!!!! I was like a proud parent at graduation. I was so excited! So I turned the thermostat up and closed the machine door.
I was so happy I did a little jig. I waited one long hour and opened it up to celebrate with a cold bottle and guess what? It was no colder in there than before!!!!!!!!
1)The condenser is for sure running. I can feel the vibration, hear the sound and it gets warm.
2)The new condenser fan spins beautifully.
3)The thermostat seems to be working great. If I turn it down, the condenser and fan cycles off and if I crank it cold, they kick on.
4) I can hear the fan in the refrigeration unit above going.
5) It cooled just the day before out in the garage and we moved the machine very carefully while bringing it into the house.
By the way, I have a VERY stupid question to ask. I think I know the answer, but now I am doubting all my skills. Should the condenser fan in the lower compartment be sucking air over the condenser going left to right? Or should it be blowing air over the condenser from right to left?
Maybe my fan is running backwords or smething.
Please help me narrow down my problems. I have spent a ton of time getting this machine up and running, my wife is so sick of it, I was so excited when I thought I had it all fixed and I have now spent way more on materials and tools than I ever have before. I guess that $500 V-110 wasn't such a steal after all.
Please help me, I want cold bottles!!!
Thanks,
Clueless soda for brains
P.S. Really, I used to be good at working on these machines, really.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: 90grad on August 12, 2005, 02:55:50 pm
'kito,
The condensor fan should be sucking air through the condensor from the outside, not blowing through it.
The condensor fan should be sucking air through the condensor from the outside, not blowing through it.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: 90grad on August 12, 2005, 02:59:12 pm
'kito,
One other thing. When I tore down my VMC 56 recently, there was a ton of hair in the condensor fins. The machine came out of a barn and there was enough hair in there to make another cow. Maybe yours is dirty, too.
One other thing. When I tore down my VMC 56 recently, there was a ton of hair in the condensor fins. The machine came out of a barn and there was enough hair in there to make another cow. Maybe yours is dirty, too.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: BryanH on August 12, 2005, 03:27:26 pm
Kito - you say you can hear the evap fan. Can you feel any airflow from that fan?
Any frost on the lines into or out of the evap?
Any frost on the lines into or out of the evap?
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: firemun on August 12, 2005, 07:03:17 pm
To all interested, I have sent an email and am waiting to hear the reply. The mech cost me $250.00 to get done a few months ago. I asked about a large one and he said $500.00. Sooooo...it is still on the garage. I also may try to restore one but not sure about getting the plating done. I am pulling my hair out trying to find a good chome plating shop.
I will let eveyone one know in a new "coin mech" thread. I don't want to keep hogging Markito's 110 thread.
Jeff
I will let eveyone one know in a new "coin mech" thread. I don't want to keep hogging Markito's 110 thread.
Jeff
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: sodaworks on August 12, 2005, 07:41:59 pm
Speed and sport chrome in Houston Tx. is where I send all my parts to be chromed. Craig @ 713-921-0235 Tell him Terry from Tehachapi, Ca, sent you. 
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: MoonDawg on August 12, 2005, 08:55:45 pm
We don't "chrome" a coin mech. Gold anodizing is what to look for!
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: firemun on August 12, 2005, 09:15:10 pm
I don't think anyone was talking about chroming a mech. I mentioned I was worried about finding a good gold plater (anodizing) as I was having a hard time finding someone local to do a good job chroming. I feel like there are more chrome shops than shops that will anodize...therefore finding someone to do goodwork may be hard for me.
Sorry for changing gears in the thread.
jeff
Sorry for changing gears in the thread.
jeff
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 13, 2005, 12:35:53 pm
| Quote (90grad @ Aug. 12 2005,2:55) |
| 'kito, The condensor fan should be sucking air through the condensor from the outside, not blowing through it. |
That's what I thought too. I checked mine and the air is blowing from right to left. So instead of sucking air across the compressor, it is blowing it over it.
My hand noticed that and it seemed out of place.
So I thought, great, I must have just flipped the fan blade over by accident. So I took it off and found that It can be mounted both ways. That fan's blade goes the opposite way of my other machine's blade. I even tried my V-216MD's motor and the motor goes the right way, but the blades are opposite between the two fans.
I guess I need a new fan blade that goes the right way. I REALLY hope the wind direction will make all the difference in making the cooling work.
I am getting SO frustrated. Every turn there is something keeping me from success.
~Markito
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: MoonDawg on August 13, 2005, 12:59:23 pm
| Quote (Markito @ Aug. 13 2005,10:35) | ||
That's what I thought too. I checked mine and the air is blowing from right to left. So instead of sucking air across the compressor, it is blowing it over it. |
The fan sucks air through the condensing coils toward the compressor, I think you are ok. If the machine cooled without that fan, it should cool now regardless of rotation.
One thing to check for a "click" every 15 seconds or so. That is an overload relay that is turning your compressor on and off. It can't run long enough to do it's job.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 13, 2005, 06:35:17 pm
Glen, thanks for the clarification on the fan. It's just that on my V-216MD, the air flows the opposite way.
So regarding: "One thing to check for a "click" every 15 seconds or so. That is an overload relay that is turning your compressor on and off. It can't run long enough to do it's job." What does that mean is wrong and what do I have to do to fix that?
So regarding: "One thing to check for a "click" every 15 seconds or so. That is an overload relay that is turning your compressor on and off. It can't run long enough to do it's job." What does that mean is wrong and what do I have to do to fix that?
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Kevin C on August 13, 2005, 08:28:26 pm
Markito
Did you check the upper evaporator coil fan? This fan is the one that circulates the air in the "Product Compartment".
The next item to replace would be the T-stat.
Kevin
Did you check the upper evaporator coil fan? This fan is the one that circulates the air in the "Product Compartment".
The next item to replace would be the T-stat.
Kevin
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 24, 2005, 11:03:59 pm
O.k., so after a ton of frustration, it dawned on me... since they are almost identical, why not swap the entire excellent cooling unit in my V-216MD with my non-working unit in the V-110! So I swapped them out and now it is cooling really well in my V-110.
Yay!
Yay!
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 24, 2005, 11:13:01 pm
Now on to my next question...
My V-110 is missing the metal pricing and instruction label that goes just above the crank on the V-110, so I called Fun-tronics to order a replacement. Well they have three similar, but different options depending on the vending price of your machine.
Since they were just $5 each and I didn't know which one I'd need, I bought all three. Now to figure out which one I really need for my exact machine.
*Dumb Question Alert*
How can I tell what price my machine accepts since it currently doesn't work?
Can you tell by the model? Can you even change the price on these old mechanicals? I know how to on the electrical Coinco's, but I don't know these very well.
Here are the labels:
My V-110 is missing the metal pricing and instruction label that goes just above the crank on the V-110, so I called Fun-tronics to order a replacement. Well they have three similar, but different options depending on the vending price of your machine.
Since they were just $5 each and I didn't know which one I'd need, I bought all three. Now to figure out which one I really need for my exact machine.
*Dumb Question Alert*
How can I tell what price my machine accepts since it currently doesn't work?
Can you tell by the model? Can you even change the price on these old mechanicals? I know how to on the electrical Coinco's, but I don't know these very well.
Here are the labels:
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 24, 2005, 11:16:52 pm
The 5 Cent label is just barely smaller than the other two labels and it seems to fit the area better than the other two (but just by a hair). Does that mean anything?
I'd prefer the 5 Cent price and label, but I want to make sure it is correct for this machine.
For the other two choices, would my coin mech need coin tubes on it or anything?
Here is my mech:
I'd prefer the 5 Cent price and label, but I want to make sure it is correct for this machine.
For the other two choices, would my coin mech need coin tubes on it or anything?
Here is my mech:
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: on August 24, 2005, 11:19:19 pm
| Quote (Markito @ Aug. 12 2005,1:55) |
| Well, the screws still don't work for me, so for now I have the screws in part way and then went back to the wire work around and I'm using the screws to anchor the wires too! How's that for integrating both methods! |
Here's a much better photo of the wires I used to make mine a free vend. You'll see that I used the screws (that didn't work for me) to actually anchor the wires. Ironic, eh?
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: 90grad on August 25, 2005, 05:23:36 am
Markito,
I juse went through the similiar thing with the coin mech on my Cavalier 51. When I took out the slug rejector, I could see the two slots on the vending crank mechanism. The slot nearest me was a nickel slot, and the slot nearest to the machine was a dime slot. I manually put a nickel and dime in the respective slots and it vended. So, I figured I had the machine set for 15 cents. I also wanted a nickel machine.
Jim provided the answer. He said to pull back the hammer on the dime slot. Now, it only needs a nickel to vend. Similarly, if you just pull back the nickel hammer, you will need a dime to vend. Pull back neither, and you need the full 15 cents.
Your coin mech looks like mine, a 600-series that will take both dimes and nickels.
You can read the discussion on the Cavalier 51 thread I started. The coin stuff is around page 4 or 5.
Hope this helps.
I juse went through the similiar thing with the coin mech on my Cavalier 51. When I took out the slug rejector, I could see the two slots on the vending crank mechanism. The slot nearest me was a nickel slot, and the slot nearest to the machine was a dime slot. I manually put a nickel and dime in the respective slots and it vended. So, I figured I had the machine set for 15 cents. I also wanted a nickel machine.
Jim provided the answer. He said to pull back the hammer on the dime slot. Now, it only needs a nickel to vend. Similarly, if you just pull back the nickel hammer, you will need a dime to vend. Pull back neither, and you need the full 15 cents.
Your coin mech looks like mine, a 600-series that will take both dimes and nickels.
You can read the discussion on the Cavalier 51 thread I started. The coin stuff is around page 4 or 5.
Hope this helps.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: 90grad on August 25, 2005, 07:02:53 am
'Kito,
Been thinking more about your coin issues. They sound almost exactly like I had. Here's what I did to solve them:
1. Take out the slug rejector and stand it up on a level table, desk etc (i.e, like it would sit in a machine).
2. Drop in a nickel. When you pick up the mech from the table, the nickel should fall out of the bottom right of the mech (as you are looking at it). If it comes out of the bottom left, the nickel is not getting accepted. Same goes with a dime. The accepted coins have to come out of that side to go into the crank mechanism.
My issue was not with dimes. They would go in properly. The nickels did not. They take a different path. The nickels go through the front part of the rejector and the dime path is in the back.
3. The next thing I did was carefully watch where in the path the nickel was being kicked out. It would get through the magnet and drop into the chute below (area behind the cover plates you can't really see) and then be rejected. I found out the nickel has to bounce off an anvil with enough force to clear a pin to get to the accepted track. My anvil was dirty, which decreased the "bounce" enough to reject the nickel. I had boiled the rejector twice and still had to manually clean it.
I have a manual for the slug rejector which explains all this. I will be happy to send it to you via email (it's in Adobe). This procedure checks the elasticity of the nickel. Email me at waynestrine@yahoo.com and I will send it out.
On my Cavalier 51 thread, there are pictures of the area I am talking about. On my mech, some one rigged up a little clip to give the nickel extra bouce, but once I cleaned up the anvil, I didn't need the clip. I used, per the manual's insctruction, a screwdriver with a cloth over top.
Hope this helps.
Been thinking more about your coin issues. They sound almost exactly like I had. Here's what I did to solve them:
1. Take out the slug rejector and stand it up on a level table, desk etc (i.e, like it would sit in a machine).
2. Drop in a nickel. When you pick up the mech from the table, the nickel should fall out of the bottom right of the mech (as you are looking at it). If it comes out of the bottom left, the nickel is not getting accepted. Same goes with a dime. The accepted coins have to come out of that side to go into the crank mechanism.
My issue was not with dimes. They would go in properly. The nickels did not. They take a different path. The nickels go through the front part of the rejector and the dime path is in the back.
3. The next thing I did was carefully watch where in the path the nickel was being kicked out. It would get through the magnet and drop into the chute below (area behind the cover plates you can't really see) and then be rejected. I found out the nickel has to bounce off an anvil with enough force to clear a pin to get to the accepted track. My anvil was dirty, which decreased the "bounce" enough to reject the nickel. I had boiled the rejector twice and still had to manually clean it.
I have a manual for the slug rejector which explains all this. I will be happy to send it to you via email (it's in Adobe). This procedure checks the elasticity of the nickel. Email me at waynestrine@yahoo.com and I will send it out.
On my Cavalier 51 thread, there are pictures of the area I am talking about. On my mech, some one rigged up a little clip to give the nickel extra bouce, but once I cleaned up the anvil, I didn't need the clip. I used, per the manual's insctruction, a screwdriver with a cloth over top.
Hope this helps.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Jim on August 25, 2005, 07:03:30 am
Mark,
When you threaded in the 6-32 screws, did they not reach the tab that hangs down or was the tab removed, bent or modified in some way...?
When you threaded in the 6-32 screws, did they not reach the tab that hangs down or was the tab removed, bent or modified in some way...?
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: MoonDawg on August 25, 2005, 10:13:34 am
Wayne, thanks for taking the time to explain. I think this should be highlighted in the coin mech. section, as it is good advice for anyone owning a mechanical or electric machine.
Kito, You have help comming. Josh is going to start restoring these mech.s in a few weeks. He'll get you dialed in.
Kito, You have help comming. Josh is going to start restoring these mech.s in a few weeks. He'll get you dialed in.
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: 90grad on August 25, 2005, 11:01:09 am
Glen/Jim/Everyone,
Would it be possible (due to both document size and not wanting to cut our sponsors out of any $$) to have a section on the site for manuals (at least those in electronic form)? They could be sent to a moderator, so everyone couldn't start posting large documents, and the moderator could post them. All but one of my manuals are in Adobe, and the one that isn't could be if I scanned it.
Markito's issue got me to thinking there are many of us with many different manuals and a "library" section may help those in need who need a quick answer. All of us can't be on the board at the same time, so sometimes an answer doesn't come as quickly as one would like. It's easy to become impatient when you're working on something.
Just a thought...
Would it be possible (due to both document size and not wanting to cut our sponsors out of any $$) to have a section on the site for manuals (at least those in electronic form)? They could be sent to a moderator, so everyone couldn't start posting large documents, and the moderator could post them. All but one of my manuals are in Adobe, and the one that isn't could be if I scanned it.
Markito's issue got me to thinking there are many of us with many different manuals and a "library" section may help those in need who need a quick answer. All of us can't be on the board at the same time, so sometimes an answer doesn't come as quickly as one would like. It's easy to become impatient when you're working on something.
Just a thought...
Title: Markito's V-110
Post by: Kevin C on August 25, 2005, 11:03:16 am
Markito
Did you get your V110 up & running? On your profile it is still listed as in the garage.
Kevin
Did you get your V110 up & running? On your profile it is still listed as in the garage.
Kevin