Title: Slider---again
Post by: firemun on March 18, 2005, 11:57:36 am
In regards to disassembling the Ideal 55, the bake a lite/plastic strips around the top of the tank, that fit under the gaskets (breaker strips??) are held by a chrome looking completely smooth front side rivet. You can see the "squashed" back side of the rivet on the back of the strip. Anyone know where to get these and a part # (i.e. McMaster). Or is this something screwy on my machine and the orginal was something else. Steve at Funtronics was not familiar with this set up...or I did such a poor job explaining he didn't know what I was talking about which makes me wonder?
I can attach a photo if anyone wants to see it.
Thanks for any help.
jeff
I can attach a photo if anyone wants to see it.
Thanks for any help.
jeff
Title: Slider---again
Post by: johnieG on March 18, 2005, 10:03:38 pm
| Quote (firemun @ Mar. 18 2005,11:57) |
| In regards to disassembling the Ideal 55, the bake a lite/plastic strips around the top of the tank, that fit under the gaskets (breaker strips??) are held by a chrome looking completely smooth front side rivet. You can see the "squashed" back side of the rivet on the back of the strip. Anyone know where to get these and a part # (i.e. McMaster). Or is this something screwy on my machine and the orginal was something else. Steve at Funtronics was not familiar with this set up...or I did such a poor job explaining he didn't know what I was talking about which makes me wonder? I can attach a photo if anyone wants to see it. Thanks for any help. jeff |
Yes, please do post a 'Pic. I believe they are just the same as the "blind" round headed fasteners used to hold the plastic door liner on some of my 60's vendos, they just "snap" into a hole to hold up the breaker strips & door liner on my machines, (they look like an over-sized thumb-tack) I'll try to sneek a peek at my RC Cola Ideal 55 & my Nessitts 55B & see whats holding in thier strips in the A.M....
Title: Slider---again
Post by: glassbottlesrule on March 19, 2005, 01:31:41 am
The 55 I took apart used screws.
Title: Slider---again
Post by: Jim on March 19, 2005, 09:01:30 am
Definately post a photo!
Title: Slider---again
Post by: MoonDawg on March 19, 2005, 10:43:44 am
These breaker strips are held on by screws on top (under the gasket), and below with "pound rivets" flanged at the rear.
They could be replaced with stainless steel screws with nuts, or a 1/4 " pop rivet would look uniform.
They could be replaced with stainless steel screws with nuts, or a 1/4 " pop rivet would look uniform.
Title: Slider---again
Post by: firemun on March 19, 2005, 07:30:29 pm
Hey Folks,
Here are the photos. I have spotted several things from McMaster that could possibly substitute...but if anyone knows for sure what these are called, that would help a great deal. I guess the big question is… is what I have OEM or has this Slider been overhauled at another time?
BTW, I just bought another Slider today, an embossed Coca Cola off of an EBAY live auction…hope I didn’t make a big mistake… I have had several folks tell me the embossed ones are good ones to get even though they are a little more costly to purchase.
Thanks for info, you guys have a wealth of knowledge like no other.
Here is a photo of one of the strips.
Jeff
Here are the photos. I have spotted several things from McMaster that could possibly substitute...but if anyone knows for sure what these are called, that would help a great deal. I guess the big question is… is what I have OEM or has this Slider been overhauled at another time?
BTW, I just bought another Slider today, an embossed Coca Cola off of an EBAY live auction…hope I didn’t make a big mistake… I have had several folks tell me the embossed ones are good ones to get even though they are a little more costly to purchase.
Thanks for info, you guys have a wealth of knowledge like no other.
Here is a photo of one of the strips.
Jeff
Title: Slider---again
Post by: firemun on March 19, 2005, 07:32:10 pm
OK, here is a closer one of the rivet.
Title: Slider---again
Post by: firemun on March 19, 2005, 07:33:01 pm
And the last one, the front of the rivet.
Title: Slider---again
Post by: MoonDawg on March 19, 2005, 07:43:55 pm
The embossed Coke slider is the one to keep. Truely rare and will hold value
Title: Slider---again
Post by: Jim on March 19, 2005, 09:08:16 pm
Jeff,
I don't recall the actual name for this type of rivet, but if you have found something similar in the same size, you can carefully drill from the back until the back of the rivet pops off, then stop drilling. Now you can remove the rivet(s) and work with the metal bracket and the bake-lite trim separately.
When replacing the rivets, I specially ground a punch to curl the rivets back so it would hold the pieces together. I would lay the rivet head on a small block of oak and lightly tap the punch until it curled back until the peices were snug. This process is very similar to the way VMC mounted bottle openers on some models, such as the 27, Dual 27 and the 33's; they utilized a counter-sunk rivet. If they have a hand tool, I recommend purchasing it if it isn't too expensive...
I don't recall the actual name for this type of rivet, but if you have found something similar in the same size, you can carefully drill from the back until the back of the rivet pops off, then stop drilling. Now you can remove the rivet(s) and work with the metal bracket and the bake-lite trim separately.
When replacing the rivets, I specially ground a punch to curl the rivets back so it would hold the pieces together. I would lay the rivet head on a small block of oak and lightly tap the punch until it curled back until the peices were snug. This process is very similar to the way VMC mounted bottle openers on some models, such as the 27, Dual 27 and the 33's; they utilized a counter-sunk rivet. If they have a hand tool, I recommend purchasing it if it isn't too expensive...
Title: Slider---again
Post by: Paul M. on March 20, 2005, 12:40:18 am
I agree. These types of rivets are installed in a similar manner as grommets, like on tarps. You can find two-piece sets, one part acts as an anvil and the other acts as the "set" tool that you strike with a hammer. Air tools might also be available, but a dish-shaped anvil is still needed. Personnally I might just pop rivet it back together if I couldn't find direct replacements. You could do an internet search on rivets to learn their proper name and where to buy them. HTH
Title: Slider---again
Post by: MoonDawg on March 20, 2005, 11:04:48 am
Wouldn't it be nice to find this two piece rivet set as a one piece clamping tool? 
Title: Slider---again
Post by: firemun on March 25, 2005, 05:50:23 pm
For anyone interested, here is what I ended up with:
A stainless steel, semi tubular rivet, size is 3/16 x 9/32 x 3/8. They fit fine, the heads look identical. I got 100 rivets and the tool to seat them (using an air chisel/hammer) for about $30.00...most of that for the tool. You can see the company's info on paper as well as rivet dimensions.
Jeff
A stainless steel, semi tubular rivet, size is 3/16 x 9/32 x 3/8. They fit fine, the heads look identical. I got 100 rivets and the tool to seat them (using an air chisel/hammer) for about $30.00...most of that for the tool. You can see the company's info on paper as well as rivet dimensions.
Jeff
Title: Slider---again
Post by: firemun on March 25, 2005, 05:51:29 pm
One more view: