Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: jasmine64 on February 23, 2005, 11:01:20 am
I am having a very hard time finding paint listed in the color codes.
I have been told that the auto shops around here are moving away from the acrylic enamel.
What else is there out there to use???
One paint and glass business I spoke to can get a substitute for 40.00 a quart. Cant guarentee it would be what I'd need.
I have been told that the auto shops around here are moving away from the acrylic enamel.
What else is there out there to use???
One paint and glass business I spoke to can get a substitute for 40.00 a quart. Cant guarentee it would be what I'd need.
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: on February 23, 2005, 12:05:47 pm
Hi,
I think they are going to use Urethane Paint. But I am not sure
about this.
Lars
I think they are going to use Urethane Paint. But I am not sure
about this.
Lars
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: sodaworks on February 23, 2005, 05:39:24 pm
What color are you looking for?
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: jasmine64 on February 23, 2005, 05:45:14 pm
Red and white Dupont centari acrylic enamel.
May just go with Funtronics and order the spray
cans and only paint the "wood grain" part of my machine.
Planning on removing all of that wood grain when it warms
up a bit outside.
May just go with Funtronics and order the spray
cans and only paint the "wood grain" part of my machine.
Planning on removing all of that wood grain when it warms
up a bit outside.
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: sodaworks on February 23, 2005, 05:52:09 pm
I used to use Dupont Centari a fews years back. I use PPG Concept, It is expensive but well worth the money. The shine is awesome. The red is called Vermillion red.
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: jasmine64 on February 23, 2005, 06:37:55 pm
Is it a one-step process? The paint and glass company advised to
get one with the clear coat added. Plus I'm thinking about doing it
my self with a sprayer.
get one with the clear coat added. Plus I'm thinking about doing it
my self with a sprayer.
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: sodaworks on February 23, 2005, 07:44:47 pm
Yes, PPG concept is a single stage paint. you have to add reducer and DU5 hardener. Believe it or not, the shine is better than using clear. I buy it by the gallon, much cheaper that way.
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: on February 24, 2005, 11:07:09 am
Yea when Josh told me his painter used( such and such) Its a single stage point and I would say that those jobs looked great. Thats what Im using. Its easier, quicker and just like orig paint jobs. Also Jas, If you intend to do it yoursself you will have to get a large air compressor not the small 10 galllon Homedepot ones and not a wagner etc. Have fun 
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: jasmine64 on February 24, 2005, 03:02:50 pm
I have access to a 60 and an 80 gallon compressor.
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: sodaworks on February 24, 2005, 11:11:37 pm
Make sure you always have enough air supply when painting to get the proper paint atomization, if not you can get runs, orange peel,etc.
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: on February 25, 2005, 12:05:02 am
Trust me, you don't want to get the runs. 
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: Bob K on February 25, 2005, 08:58:03 am
Terry, is there a specific white color that you prefer, or will any "appliance" white do the trick?
Bob
Bob
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: sodaworks on February 25, 2005, 01:30:46 pm
Bob, I use PPG Concept gloss white #CLV91038. It has a really good shine to it.
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: Bob K on February 25, 2005, 02:52:37 pm
Thanks Terry.
Bob
Bob
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: jasmine64 on February 26, 2005, 07:29:17 pm
Markito
You guys are so funny. Needed the laugh today.
Jas
You guys are so funny. Needed the laugh today.
Jas
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: on February 27, 2005, 12:59:13 am
Thanks.
Guys, if I'm gonna have Maaco do the painting and am having them use "Sprint Red", anyone know which white color they would have and should use that too is nice and shiny?
Guys, if I'm gonna have Maaco do the painting and am having them use "Sprint Red", anyone know which white color they would have and should use that too is nice and shiny?
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: Jim on February 27, 2005, 02:14:33 pm
Have them cross reference the color listed by Terry, PPG Concept gloss white #CLV91038
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: jasmine64 on April 12, 2005, 06:13:50 pm
So by everyone's experience, what is the best paint to use?
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: joesquid on April 12, 2005, 06:56:10 pm
| Quote (sodaworks @ Feb. 23 2005,6:44) |
| Yes, PPG concept is a single stage paint. you have to add reducer and DU5 hardener. Believe it or not, the shine is better than using clear. I buy it by the gallon, much cheaper that way. |
What type of reducer do you use with PPG concept paint?
Thanks!!
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: sodaworks on April 14, 2005, 10:14:52 am
joesquid,
I use Grow Automotive H.E.T. urethane reducer. It is made in slow, medium and fast. In the summer I use the slow and in the winter I use the fast. Terry
I use Grow Automotive H.E.T. urethane reducer. It is made in slow, medium and fast. In the summer I use the slow and in the winter I use the fast. Terry
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: jasmine64 on June 01, 2005, 10:36:22 am
My machine is on it's way to the painter. I'll post pics as soon as I get it back.
Should I myself put the decals on or take the chance they may get lost at the painter?
Should I myself put the decals on or take the chance they may get lost at the painter?
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: BryanH on June 01, 2005, 09:10:16 pm
Jasmine - are you using a chain (ala Maaco) to paint your machine or a local autobody shop? Can you share what you did in terms of prep and what they're going to do and for how much?
Kito' - did you ever send your machine out? If so, same questions as above?
Josh - you also send machines out regularly. Same questions.
I'm going to paint my first machine, but my guess is that once will be enough.
Kito' - did you ever send your machine out? If so, same questions as above?
Josh - you also send machines out regularly. Same questions.
I'm going to paint my first machine, but my guess is that once will be enough.
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: on June 01, 2005, 10:22:20 pm
Bryan,
I never got around to it. Still just sitting there sanded down in my garage. It's not lonely though, it's right next to my V-83 and V-110.
I never got around to it. Still just sitting there sanded down in my garage. It's not lonely though, it's right next to my V-83 and V-110.
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: loman4ec on June 01, 2005, 11:05:27 pm
I don't have anything to send out as of now. I left my 7up selectivend and Jacobs 26 in Cincinnati. I have already spoke to my old painter and he said he is ready to paint machines when I am. Why do you ask?
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: BrianB on June 02, 2005, 07:00:34 am
I'm actually getting ready for final paint myself on my Cavalier 55D. I spent probably about 40 hours or so doing body work and working out any old kinks of bent metal that needed a bit of straightening.
I didn't have access to a outside job size sandblaster so I ended up using Aircraft Stripper to remove all of the old paint. Let me tell you, that stuff is the best! Dust is minimized and as long as you have a good tarp sitting underneath, clean-up is a cinch. After removing all of the old paint, I went back over the body and other various parts with a combination of a fine wire wheel (use to remove any rust/hard paint spots) and used my bench top media blaster to prep the smaller parts. I then went over the entire body with 400 grit sandpaper.
Then it was body filler time! That took about half of the 40 hours. Not the actual application, but the sanding, shaping and, re-application for final sanding. After all of that, I knew that I wouldn't be able to get my stuff over to my painter so I opted to spray on my own primer.
I realize that I will end up having my painter shoot another coat of lacquer primer over what I shot but I just wanted to make sure that I wouldn't get any flash rust and waste mine and his time.
I'm going to go buy the paint tomorrow from a local Car Quest auto supply store. I'll be (er, my painter!) using Dupont Centari Single Stage Acrylic Enamel. Paint code is #60807-A (Red) the same code listed in the Funtronics catalog and also in the paint code matrix found on ColaMachines.com. The price wasn't to bad either.
I'll end up paying about $70 for 2 quarts of paint or $119 for a gallon. Not bad in my book seeing as how the primer will be free and so will the paint job!
I didn't have access to a outside job size sandblaster so I ended up using Aircraft Stripper to remove all of the old paint. Let me tell you, that stuff is the best! Dust is minimized and as long as you have a good tarp sitting underneath, clean-up is a cinch. After removing all of the old paint, I went back over the body and other various parts with a combination of a fine wire wheel (use to remove any rust/hard paint spots) and used my bench top media blaster to prep the smaller parts. I then went over the entire body with 400 grit sandpaper.
Then it was body filler time! That took about half of the 40 hours. Not the actual application, but the sanding, shaping and, re-application for final sanding. After all of that, I knew that I wouldn't be able to get my stuff over to my painter so I opted to spray on my own primer.
I realize that I will end up having my painter shoot another coat of lacquer primer over what I shot but I just wanted to make sure that I wouldn't get any flash rust and waste mine and his time.
I'm going to go buy the paint tomorrow from a local Car Quest auto supply store. I'll be (er, my painter!) using Dupont Centari Single Stage Acrylic Enamel. Paint code is #60807-A (Red) the same code listed in the Funtronics catalog and also in the paint code matrix found on ColaMachines.com. The price wasn't to bad either.
I'll end up paying about $70 for 2 quarts of paint or $119 for a gallon. Not bad in my book seeing as how the primer will be free and so will the paint job!
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: jasmine64 on June 02, 2005, 09:07:11 am
| Quote |
| Jasmine - are you using a chain (ala Maaco) to paint your machine or a local autobody shop? Can you share what you did in terms of prep and what they're going to do and for how much? Kito' - did you ever send your machine out? If so, same questions as above? Josh - you also send machines out regularly. Same questions. I'm going to paint my first machine, but my guess is that once will be enough. |
I mostly used paint stripper. Especially on the door that was covered in Vinyl.
A local body shop is painting it. Estimated to run anywhere from 250 or less if I do most of the work-450 if he has to do most of the work himself.
I stripped, sanded and removed rust until it was smooth.
This machine is in very good shape on the outside so it was miniimal work.
I had a hard time removing one of the screws on the id plate on the side of the machine it was completely rusted.
Title: Hard time finding paint!
Post by: BryanH on June 02, 2005, 09:48:54 pm
| Quote (loman4ec @ June 01 2005,9:05) |
| I don't have anything to send out as of now. I left my 7up selectivend and Jacobs 26 in Cincinnati. I have already spoke to my old painter and he said he is ready to paint machines when I am. Why do you ask? |
Thanks folks. I've been asking for your experiences with professional painters to help me decide what to do with the next couple of projects. I need to decide whether or not painting the exterior myself is worth the effort / frustration / satisfaction.