Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on February 18, 2005, 09:08:15 pm Hello
Well here is my next step in this coke machine madness. I bought Vendo 110 from Josh ( loman4ec). So I now have four machines in the garage. This V110 is a large coin door machine I think and had been painted (red-white-blu) with Pepsi blue on the front. The embossed coke on the front top has been painted gold & it appears that someone had attached a sign over the embossed coke. So I will be asking all the newbe questions about the round top machines. Right now the only question I have is about the fitting of the coin rejector into the crank handle area. I know that Josh sent me a rejector with the machine & I hope that Josh & MoonDawg can help me with this. It appears that the coin rejector is a little long to fit. Well what ever the problem is it will work out. So as soon as I practice paint my V56 I will turn my attention to this V110. I want to say thanks to Josh for being most helpful in the shipping of this machine. So look at my new machine!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am fired up!!!!!! Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on February 18, 2005, 09:09:11 pm Hello
Here is the picture of the front. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Jim on February 18, 2005, 10:42:23 pm Kevin,
The slug rejector should have two set screw studs along the sides at the bottom that will slide into a groove in the coin mech frame. There should also be two more set screw studs at the top that will latch into a spring loaded clip on each side at the top of the coin mech frame. Can you get us a closer shot (photo) of the coin mech and the slug rejector...? Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on February 19, 2005, 07:48:37 am Jim
I saw that but it appears that the rejector is about a 3/8 inch to long/tall. Yes I will get a picture today & post. I will be in the garage all day working on the V56 paint prep. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: MoonDawg on February 19, 2005, 01:34:28 pm Look for different holes to move the set screws to
Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on February 19, 2005, 06:41:24 pm Hello
Maybe I am missing something? Here is the picture of the slug regector in the vend mech. It is a littel tall. I was out in the garage vending adult drinks today so no work was completed. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on February 19, 2005, 06:45:43 pm Hello
Here is a picture of the whole rig. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on February 19, 2005, 06:47:27 pm Hello
Here it is. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: MoonDawg on February 19, 2005, 07:27:38 pm Kevin, remove the coin chute from the slug rejector, you already have one attatched to the machine. You don't need two...........
Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on February 19, 2005, 07:37:54 pm MoonDawg
Ok Great. I will give it a try in the am. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on February 19, 2005, 07:40:22 pm Hey
I was just relooking at the pictures & if I remove the top coin chute it will not lower the upper two guide pins. Help Kevn Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Jim on February 19, 2005, 09:34:49 pm I believe the slug rejector you have is for a newer electric model coin mech, such as a 9800... However, as Glen has said, look at the bottom studs to see if they can be relocated up a little. Usually, there are several sets of threaded holes along the side rails of the rejector for adjustment to fit various coin mechs.
It's hard to tell but it looks as if the mech needs the lower studs to be moved to an upper set of holes for proper alignment... And don't forget to remove the coin chute as stated by Glen (MoonDawg)! Title: Vendo 110 Post by: johnieG on February 19, 2005, 10:27:14 pm Jim's right, the slug rejector is a for an electric Coinco metal coinmech 9100/9400 series, looks like a metal series 78/Coinco slug rejector to me, there should be some I.D. No.'s on it somewhere on the back, cast right into the metal) it doesn't belong on this machines coinmech, first of all, it will accept quarters, but there is no place for them to go, they'll just either fall into the coinbox, or into the 'mech's guts. so if you do get it to fit-up keep it in mind. food for thought.
Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Creighton on February 20, 2005, 01:01:17 am Kevin,
Congrats on a great score and welcome to the "don't need no stinking electricty" to vend land. As always the core members of the board are spot on. I just finished (almost) hacking up unit that looks very similiar to yours into a RT V-56. Wanted to clean up my org. and still keep the box in service. Works all day/nite long on dimes and most of the time with two nickels. With quarters on the bench they will drop through to the proper slot but in the machine they are hanging at the entrance to the rejector. Allignment issue. May not be able to fix that, the entrance/exit slots are not quite the same as on a unit of proper vintage. First thing is, does this unit store nickels for change? If so there will be a tube to the below left of the crank handle that has all kinds of interesting widgets to divert nickels into the tube, detect if enough nickles are in the tube, dump the tube etc... I don't see the "use correct change" flag assembly installed but that doesn't mean the main vend mech can't do .25. If it can't make change you are dumping .25 coins into no mans land and they can end up in nasty places. Here is what I did: Clean, then clean again:-) Remove coin chute and the small wheel on top. The coin bezal return on mine hits the front part of the tab, not the wheel. Check if there is a cast alum. appendage at the bottom that extends the nickel path. If so this will prevent the slug rejector from setting directly on top of the main vend mech. Required that these rejectors are aligned level/fore and aft to line up with the main vend coin entrance path. Removing this is no big deal but I can save you some time with the process if required. Next issue was the locking pins. On the rejector I used all 4 were cast into the chassis. The top pins were fine but the bottom were to low (offset for the appendage). I cut those off and was lucky that the next setting "up" was threaded. Threaded pins inserted and it "locks" into place as it should. I'll get you any pictures you need when I get back Mon. If you check the "slug rejector test bench" post that is the modified unit at various stages. Also there should be some decent pics of a period slug rejector/change capable main unit in some of my earlier ramblings :-) To me anyway, it seems getting the dime to work makes it easier to sort out the rest. Keep us posted!!! Creighton Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on February 21, 2005, 08:55:22 pm Hello Creighton
Just wondering if you are home with some pictures? Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Creighton on February 21, 2005, 11:50:02 pm Hi Kevin,
I'm back, here is one of two of overall pics. Let me know what else would be of help. Creighton Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Creighton on February 21, 2005, 11:53:37 pm 2 of 2,
Not great when cut down to fit the board. Let me know if you want full resolution. Creighton Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on February 22, 2005, 09:19:43 am Hello
Thanks for the pictures. I am going to take a few updated pictures of mine tonight & post. That will help with this discussion. I am on a long learning curve with this machine. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Creighton on February 22, 2005, 05:45:21 pm Hi Kevin,
It will be a very short curve. Best "tech support" ever available on this group!! Bring on the pics. Creighton Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on February 23, 2005, 09:17:28 pm Hello
Here we go with the slug rejector & the full changer Here is the picture of the changer-crank handle area with the slug rejector removed. I don't think I can make change unless something is missing. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on February 23, 2005, 09:20:55 pm Hello
Here is the current slug rejector that I have. The problem appears to be the round or half wheel part sticking out of the bottom. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on February 23, 2005, 09:23:16 pm Hello
Here is the slug rejector with the lower bright silver cover removed. You can see the lower round part that hangs up on the changer. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Creighton on February 24, 2005, 01:16:11 am Hey Kevin,
That unit won't make change but should take .5 and .10 no problem. The slug rejector you have is not quite the same as the "new" one I modified. It had the same part at the bottom. I just cut it off and ground smooth. I used a dremal cut off but a hacksaw would have been much faster. There is a part that blocks half of the nickel drop path. I took mine off while cutting but it needs to go back on. Attached is a picture that I hope helps. Sorry didn't think to take any before shots. Let me know if you have any questions. Creighton Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on March 08, 2005, 09:50:51 am Hello
I was out in my garage looking for something & noticed my old Vari-price 50 coin changer. When I removed the all metal slug rejector I saw that it did not have that bottom nickle bump. Will this rejector work? I will post a picture tonight when I get home. No work being completed on the Vendo 110 right now because I am still working on the V56 as training paint job before I start on this machine. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on March 08, 2005, 08:28:05 pm Hello
So here we have my two slug rejectors side by side. The one on the left is off my Vari-price 50. Notice that it does not have the nickle bump on the bottom. So my question is will this rejector work on V110? Let me know Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on March 08, 2005, 08:32:47 pm Hello
A few questions 1 How does the slug rejector work? So my coin mech will cycle lets say on 10 cents? 2. The Vari-Price rejector has fixed mounting nubs on the sides but it does have spots to mount the screw in type nubs. So do I just knock off the fixed nubs & mount the other screw in type? 3. How do you clean this slug rejector? Thanks Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Jim on March 08, 2005, 10:01:54 pm All the slug rejector does is filter the coins and place them into the correct coin slot(s) in the coin mech. Depending on the kind of vending cycle, manual or electric, the coin mech will determine if the correct change has been deposited and then allow the vend cycle to be initiated.
It's interesting that the studs aren't removable... Before you grind them off, I would make sure the slug rejector is compatible w/ your coin mech by checking to see that the coins slots line up properly... As far as cleaning, a nice hot soapy bath and an old tooth brush will do the trick. I've heard the dish washer works wonders but let the wife see you do or that you even heard it here! Title: Vendo 110 Post by: MoonDawg on March 09, 2005, 11:27:50 am Kevin---those studs are threaded at one end
Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on March 09, 2005, 12:16:45 pm Hello
I will check tonight if I have time but they apprear to be fixed. Maybe they have never been moved & just appear to be fixed. I will give them the channel lock twist. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Creighton on March 09, 2005, 02:17:35 pm On the rejector I used they indeed were cast into the main body. Only the bottom ones need to be moved.
Creighton Title: Vendo 110 Post by: MoonDawg on March 09, 2005, 04:11:39 pm Sorry.
I learned something today. Am re-assembling this Pepsi 110 the guy had taken apart. As stated in an earlier post, the perimiter of the door and body is lined with wood. So the old holes in the wood are now too big. Bought some plastic inserts you use to screw into drywall and hammered them into the old holes. Nice tight fit. Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on March 09, 2005, 09:18:10 pm Hello
I checked the lower post & they are part of the case. So I will have to cut them off. The other post off the second slug rejector does fit the screw in holes. I am still not sure if it is the correct rejector so I am bidding on a lot of them on ebay. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Creighton on March 09, 2005, 11:44:54 pm Kevin,
They aren't the "exact" rejector but either one should work. Course you will need to cut off the the nickle part to get that one to fit /cut the bottom lugs etc. See my earlier post. Lots of work when correct Nat's can be had for $20 or so. What I've found to be more or less correct for an early RT V-56 is National 4975 (ballpark for a 110). As I undestand all the 49xx series falls into the same time period. Attached is a pic. A kind soul sent me the manual as well so let me know if you need anything. Creighton Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on March 22, 2005, 08:39:36 pm Hello
How can you tell if a slug rejector is a 5 & 10 cent type or it will also take quarters? What happend in the old days when a quarter was dropped into a 10 cent machine? Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Creighton on March 22, 2005, 10:52:05 pm Hey Kevin,
Was wondering just today what was going on with this issue. Best I can tell is most rejectors will take and sort .25 (a quarter). If it can go anywhere of use is another issue. A picture of the top of the rachet mech. with the slug rejector removed would help to clarify. As a wild a** guess suspect the .25's will stack up if nowhere to go. The pic will help sort if there is a path for .25 Standing by... Creighton Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Jim on March 23, 2005, 07:58:06 am
The coin slots are not large enough to allow a quarter to be deposited; only dimes and nickels. Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on March 31, 2005, 05:05:46 pm Hello
I cut off & ground down the lower pin nubs for a flush fit. I then installed the slug rejector. All is well at this point & I am feeling good. Then came the 10 cent coin test. I dropped in 2 nickels, hit the crank & the crank worked fine, the nickles stayed in the slug rejector. If I hit the coin return the nickles would fall out. So at this point my question is " What the " What am I missing here? When the coins fall through the slug rejector what is suppose to happen? Hit a trip lever to allow the crank handle to move? This is a problem that is really making me work. Kevin C : Title: Vendo 110 Post by: MoonDawg on March 31, 2005, 05:29:48 pm Test the slug rejector on a flat surface. Drop in a coin and follow it's path to see where it gets stuck. It's usually a dirty coin path that causes coin jams
Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on March 31, 2005, 05:52:42 pm Hello
One point is that the crank handle will complete a full rotation without any money with the coin rejector installed. It seems to me that that crank handle should not be able to complete a full cycle unless the money was installed. Kevin C Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Creighton on March 31, 2005, 11:55:19 pm Sounds like it is on some sort of free vend. Does it release the bottle rack and allow a pull?
2X.5 should clear the slug rejector and fall into the slot for .5 they line up before vend. A level test stand to check the slug rejector and dropping .5 into the mech direct should help sort where the problem is. creighton Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on April 01, 2005, 12:28:01 pm Hello
Yes it does cycle the vending rack. The repair of the coin mech is a long term project. The machine will free vend just fine. I have not really started on this V110 as I am still preparing the V56 for painting. Once I get that V56 back together I will start on this V110 full time. Jim Nice job censoring the four dashes (----) Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on May 24, 2005, 12:04:38 pm Hello
Will this Coin Mech listed on Ebay fit my machine? I am here at work & it looks different. Ebay 6181685889 Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Creighton on May 24, 2005, 10:33:33 pm Kevin,
Depends wether you have a large or small door machine. This auction is for a large door. A picture or two of the machine would help sort this out. You already have the the crank handle assembly correct? When the coins pass correctly through the coin mech they fall into slots (.1,.5,.10,.25) above the crank handle or are sent to the coin return Then when you turn the handle it will full cycle and release the bottle rack. Sounds like yours is on free vend. Let me know if you needs pics of the setup on mine. Creighton Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on May 25, 2005, 07:50:49 am Creighton
Is there a switch or lever to adjust to go from free play to pay for play? I saw this on ebay & just wanted to know but I do have a large door V110 Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: loman4ec on May 25, 2005, 10:56:37 am Kevin that coin mech will fit fine. Yours is ok though isn't it? I thought it was just missing the slug rejector.
Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Creighton on May 25, 2005, 12:42:16 pm Kevin,
I don't know how to set these to freeplay. Must be a way though. Can anybody help? Creighton Title: Vendo 110 Post by: MoonDawg on May 25, 2005, 03:06:34 pm
There is a spring-loaded plunger inside your crank handle. It's designed to lock in place when turned clock-wise, but is beveled so it will retract and release when turned ccw. You may have a defective plunger. To set on freeplay, remove slug regector to observe a set of "fingers" laying across your coin mech. Slightly lift and suspend them. Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on September 05, 2005, 07:48:45 pm Hey
I have finally started on the Vendo 110. I want to get it running & then I will work on painting it later. Here is a picture of the inside of the cabinet with the bottle rack removed & the refrigeration removed. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on September 05, 2005, 07:51:30 pm Hello
So my first question is how is this area of the inside cabinet suppose to seal. This is where the lineset exits the uper cabinet. It appears that it was only sealed with caulking because I found a blob of caulk on the lineset. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on September 05, 2005, 07:53:35 pm Hello
Here is the lower compressor coil after cleaning but not painted. The picture looks worse than it really is. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on September 05, 2005, 07:55:12 pm Hello
Here is the lower coil after my first painting. I will paint it one more time to get the rest of the rust areas. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on September 05, 2005, 07:59:52 pm Hey
One last question. This picture shows the lower left corner of the cabinet. I have two sets of stripping on the cabinet to seal the door. There is a black rubber on the outside & then there is a brown hemp/rope weather stripping that sticks out a little further than the black rubber. It appears that the brown stripping is not orginal. Is the machine suppose to have both sets of stripping? Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: on September 05, 2005, 08:46:19 pm Hi Kevin,
I'm a 110 guy too. Mine has no hippie hemp rope. Just the stip with the rubber gasket attached and then a black plastic breaker strip (or whatever you guys have called it around here).But yes there is an old puddy blob that seals the space that joins the upper and lower compartments. Glad you're working on it. I love my Coke V-110, except that it is an "all red" model and I desperately want to swap it with someone for the "red & white" version. Title: Vendo 110 Post by: on September 05, 2005, 08:47:38 pm Kevin,
We have a lot in common. I too have a Cornelius slider that I am working on. Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on September 06, 2005, 07:43:27 am Markito
Is your V110 operational? I hope to have mine running in the next week. I looked at a V110 from an Ebay listing the it looks like I need to get rid of the rope seal & then install new rubber stripping. I found some on the Soda Jerk website last night. My Cornelius can slider works well but appears to hold water down in the precool area. I have it turned off right now plus I need to figure out how to adjust the coin mech from 75 cents back to 50 cents. Kevin Title: Vendo 110 Post by: on September 06, 2005, 09:42:44 am Yep, it has been up and running for about a month now. Works great and I have the free-vend trick in use. I just now updated my signature below to reflect it's move to my kitchen.
Title: Vendo 110 Post by: Kevin C on September 06, 2005, 11:51:36 am Markito
Your V110 is all red & mine is embossed with coke but painted red/white/blue Pepsi. when I repaint I plan on making it Red/White. Kevin |