Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: Bob K on January 08, 2005, 11:27:53 pm
Hi all,
Anybody here removed the refrigeration unit from a Westinghouse Multi-Drink? Looks mighty complicated in there
.
Does anyone here have experience with these machines? Mine does not cool - doesn't kick on at all.
Thanks and happy new year,
Bob
Anybody here removed the refrigeration unit from a Westinghouse Multi-Drink? Looks mighty complicated in there
.Does anyone here have experience with these machines? Mine does not cool - doesn't kick on at all.
Thanks and happy new year,
Bob
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: dr galaga on January 09, 2005, 02:02:40 am
Sigh...I used to have one...back in college...my parents were going to call their scrap dealer if I didn't get rid of at least half of the four machines that I had. Of course the only ones that I could sell were the good ones - the multidrink and a Cavalier CSS-64. At least I still have a Hispanic Bud neon sign from part of the Cavalier deal!
Sorry...can't help...just reminiscing...
Sorry...can't help...just reminiscing...
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: johnieG on January 09, 2005, 08:36:26 am
What model do you have? WC-60-MD, WC-78-MD, WC-102-MD...etc. And maybe could you provide a picture(s)? 
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: Kevin C on January 09, 2005, 10:42:57 am
Hello
Post a picture. It should not be a problem but you may need an extra set of hands to support it.
Kevin
Post a picture. It should not be a problem but you may need an extra set of hands to support it.
Kevin
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: Bob K on January 09, 2005, 11:10:16 am
Hi johnnieg, it's a WC78-MD (it's in the description line).
The evaporator runs all the time but the compressor won't kick on. I've given it some good taps with a rubber mallet. I've also moved the thermostat dial from end to end. The refrigeration unit is a W-96F. If anyone has this unit I'd like to confirm that all the wire connectors are connected to the correct spade on the terminal strip on mine. There were a few that had pulled off. It seemed apparent which spades they had pulled off from, but you never know. One of them was the black wire from the thermostat.
It would be nice to get this running without pulling the system out
.
This is the machine:
and this is the compressor area:
Thanks guys, any help would be appreciated.
Bob
The evaporator runs all the time but the compressor won't kick on. I've given it some good taps with a rubber mallet. I've also moved the thermostat dial from end to end. The refrigeration unit is a W-96F. If anyone has this unit I'd like to confirm that all the wire connectors are connected to the correct spade on the terminal strip on mine. There were a few that had pulled off. It seemed apparent which spades they had pulled off from, but you never know. One of them was the black wire from the thermostat.
It would be nice to get this running without pulling the system out
.This is the machine:
and this is the compressor area:
Thanks guys, any help would be appreciated.
Bob
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: Jim on January 09, 2005, 07:07:03 pm
Bob,
Have you attempted to get the system running bypassing the thermostat...?
Does the condensor fan operate at all during this process...?
Have you attempted to get the system running bypassing the thermostat...?
Does the condensor fan operate at all during this process...?
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: Bob K on January 10, 2005, 08:14:32 am
Hi Jim,
No, the condensor fan doesn't kick on at all.
I'm not sure how to bypass the thermostat. Can someone educate me?
Thanks folks,
Bob
No, the condensor fan doesn't kick on at all.
I'm not sure how to bypass the thermostat. Can someone educate me?
Thanks folks,
Bob
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: Kevin C on January 10, 2005, 10:12:41 am
Hello
I would unhook the entire cooling system & pull it out in one piece, place/support it on a work bench. You can then troubleshoot & work on the system. If you are having these types of problems repairs will not be made with the cooling system in the machine. With the system on a work bench you can plug it in & run to check different options.
Kevin
I would unhook the entire cooling system & pull it out in one piece, place/support it on a work bench. You can then troubleshoot & work on the system. If you are having these types of problems repairs will not be made with the cooling system in the machine. With the system on a work bench you can plug it in & run to check different options.
Kevin
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: Bob K on January 10, 2005, 12:04:41 pm
Thanks Kevin and I agree that would be the best option, but to get the evaporator section out of the cabinet looks a lot more difficult than most machines (at least to me 
). Definitely a last resort.
So how do I bypass the thermostat?
Bob
). Definitely a last resort.So how do I bypass the thermostat?
Bob
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: Bob K on January 12, 2005, 08:02:05 am
Can anyone advise as to bypassing the thermostat?
Thanks,
Bob
Thanks,
Bob
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: johnieG on January 12, 2005, 09:13:50 am
Sure, on the bottom of the Thermostat, there are two wires, by shorting these wires together, you will bypass the themostat, but....
CAUTION
.....do this with the machine unpluged, as the wires have line voltage across them...& insulate them well from shorting out against the machine (or YOU)...with electrical tape while testing....BEFORE you plug the machine back in...
CAUTION
.....do this with the machine unpluged, as the wires have line voltage across them...& insulate them well from shorting out against the machine (or YOU)...with electrical tape while testing....BEFORE you plug the machine back in...Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: Bob K on January 12, 2005, 11:50:23 am
Thanks johnnieg, I'll take a look tonight and report back.
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: Jim on January 12, 2005, 12:23:48 pm
Sorry I took too long to reply on the thermostat bypass test...
And as Johnie stated, unplug the machine prior to this procedure!
And as Johnie stated, unplug the machine prior to this procedure!
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: MoonDawg on January 12, 2005, 12:53:50 pm
I have a couple of W-44's I robbed the coin mech's from. One has the terminal block exposed. The thermostat has 3 wires comming out of it.
The black wire goes to terminal #1 with other the black wires. The red wire goes to #2 with other red wire. The white wire does not go to # 3 with the other white wires. it is connected to terminal #4.
If that's not the problem run power to Terminals 1 & 3. For this cut off the female end of an extension cord and install 2 insulated aligator clips you'll get from the auto parts store. (You'll use this lot in the future)
Hope Jim or Johnie double checks that this information is correct.
La Conchita landslide is 10 miles from me. Pretty hectic here in Ventura this week.
Last thing, anybody interested in the two 44's? Glen
The black wire goes to terminal #1 with other the black wires. The red wire goes to #2 with other red wire. The white wire does not go to # 3 with the other white wires. it is connected to terminal #4.
If that's not the problem run power to Terminals 1 & 3. For this cut off the female end of an extension cord and install 2 insulated aligator clips you'll get from the auto parts store. (You'll use this lot in the future)
Hope Jim or Johnie double checks that this information is correct.
La Conchita landslide is 10 miles from me. Pretty hectic here in Ventura this week.
Last thing, anybody interested in the two 44's? Glen
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: Bob K on January 12, 2005, 04:00:19 pm
Thanks so much, guys. Your advice is greatly appreciated.
Bob
Bob
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: Kevin C on January 12, 2005, 09:40:44 pm
Hello
Post a picture of the 44's
Kevin
Post a picture of the 44's
Kevin
Title: Removing refrigeration from westinghouse
Post by: Bob K on January 13, 2005, 08:42:41 am
Thanks Jim, johnieG, Kevin and MoonDawg - she's blowin' ICE COLD now... .
I switched the wiring around according to your advice (and a wiring diagram), then stood back and gingerly plugged it back in, expecting the entire neighborhood to get thrown into darkness . She just starting humming away like it was 1961... I checked on it an hour later and it was at 32.4 and the compressor had cycled off. I'll test it for a longer period this weekend.
Isn't it a great feeling to see one of these old soldiers come back to life?
Thanks again,
Bob
.I switched the wiring around according to your advice (and a wiring diagram), then stood back and gingerly plugged it back in, expecting the entire neighborhood to get thrown into darkness
. She just starting humming away like it was 1961... I checked on it an hour later and it was at 32.4 and the compressor had cycled off. I'll test it for a longer period this weekend. Isn't it a great feeling to see one of these old soldiers come back to life?
Thanks again,
Bob