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So seeing my wife will not hear another word about coke machines or any other vending machine of any sort, I will subject you all to my venting, the great thing about this form of medium is you don't have to read if you so choose, an option my wife is not aforded lol

So two weeks ago I came into contact with a fellow colector, will not mention any names as he is a member on this site, a non active member but a member none the less, it was originally for the Vendo 44 I had been looking for for some time now, original, complete with coin changing mech, the price was good, the seemed extremely nice and honest, and after a few conversations more machines came into play and we ended up making a package deal for 3 machines including the vendo 81D cabinet I have been also looking for, it was a 16 hour drive there and back but the price was great and I really wanted those machines... so after many conversations and lots of pics, the deal was done, the seller assures me everything is great, the machines are sold, go ahead and plan the trip, won't even take a deposite because he sees how exited I am about the deal and knows i'm definitely coming for sure... sooooo I am to pick these machines up this weekend, actually its was originally suppose to be last weekend but tiongs didn't work out so we reschedulled for this weekend, again kept in contact with the seller who again assured me that all was good so I planned everything for this weekend and even took monday off from work... well on my way to New Hampshire today I called the seller before getting to far out of new york state, and he told me all was good exept for one small thing, he sold the 44 to another guy that was there to buy a vendo 56 rt but fell in love with the 44 and offered him $450 more then he had sold it to me for so he couldn't pass up the money... he instead offered me two empty 44 shells lol and assumed I would still drive the 18 hours for the 81D shell and the third machine... Jack ass ! I don't know, maybe I have no right to be extremely upset seeing technicaly he really owed me nothing, but I am furious beyond all hell... anyhow for those of you who do actually read this agonizing rant, for one I apologise lol secondly maybe you can tell me if I'm in the wrong for being this upset... business is business I guess ! Meah I refuse to see it that way !

It happens...but it's still not right! I would be pissed also...your word is your word- that just means more to some people than others. Sorry to hear your story....been there a few times myself.

I agree with you.....
I've bought and sold MANY things with CL and the like, and when I buy, I hope that people keep their word (which many do) and when I sell, I reply in the order that I get the emails, and once I make a deal... THATS IT.  I don't care if I get more from the next guy.  I was happy with the first offer, so I agreed to it, and tough luck on me if someone was willing to of paid more.

I think you have a right to be mad... but in saying that, it's just a right to be mad.  Nothing more, nothing less.
Sometimes it's a blessing that some deals don't go thru.... maybe this is one of them.

 :happydrinkers:

I agree, a man should stick by his word. But, just to play devil's advocate, who postponed the original pick up date? I've been on both sides of these types of deals. Stuff sold out from under me and buyers that want it but postpone making a cash transaction while someone else is there with cash in hand. Can be a tough situation sometimes. You can be burned either way, and sometimes getting burned makes people leary of someone else's word in the future as I'm sure you will be before making a long trip. Myself, I really try and go out of my way to be a man of my word as I like to think a majority of people do. Ahhhh, the trials and tribulations of dealing with people. Just my opinion worth what you paid to read it.  8)

Thanks, it's nice to see that some poeple still believe that your word is bond ! As far as the postponement, I sugested it, I still would of came down if he had a problem with it but it just made more sence it being father's day weekend and all, he agreed. In retrospect, I should of just went up anyways, brought the kids and made a fun weekend out of it which is what I usually do ! Oh well, on the bright side I can go back to my search for a vmc 81 Pepsi which is what I was on the hunt for when I came across the vendo 44... anyone here got one for sale ? Lol on the down side, I'm starting to think I will never get that dam vendo 81D shell !

Agree with you 100% and would have pulled the uturn as well; strictly on principal. I know how pissed I was when I drove 45 minutes for 3 pedal cars and two minutes from the guys house he calls me and says some guy just drove by and bought them from him (as he is being coached on what to say from someone in the background). So you have every right to be upset. Hope a week from now you find what you are looking for at half the price.

I know the feeling I lost (2) 81's last week.  Both seller said it was a done deal.  One guy told me he sold it and to F...off.  The other seller had and offer from somebody I already  knew even though we had a deal thd buyer proceeded to up my bid, and the seller sold it right out from underneath me!

It's violent business!  I pretty much just want to do deal now from private collectors, or friends!

Sorry bro!

It sucks, some people don't care about their word. Some of us do! There are still plenty of good people out there. Next time, I would suggest sending a deposit though, it would help keep the seller to the original deal. Something better will come along for you.
  TFJ

Sucks but it happens both ways. How many times does someone tell you they want something from you so you hold it for them only to have them back out. In the meantime you could have sold it a couple of times. My experience is when I say I'm going to buy something I just pick it up ASAP.

Everything happens for a reason, I guess is that you will find yourself a nicer 44....for less. Hang in there, don't let it beat you up.

Me and my dad were going to look at a "mid-size" Ford car last weekend. No commitment to buy, mind you. The seller requested we come at a specific time, he had someone else interested. Before we head out, we check and the other person hadn't shown. We started out on the 120 mi round trip, got over half way to the place when the seller called and told us the other fellow showed up with the cash. He had another vehicle for sale, that he reduced the price of slightly, but it wasn't worth the trouble. As I said we had no agreement to buy or anything, but it did seem the seller might have been hedging his bets without concern for our inconvenience.

We wound up with something else that needs some repair, but if we can get it right has the potential to be far more useful than the fairly small Ford sedan would have been. I don't consider missing out on the Ford to be such a bad thing after all.

I missed out on a coke machine recently in part because I had no way to haul it. It's tough waiting, but in the end it's probably better.

EDIT: I'm sorry, it was two weekends back. I don't know why but I'm terrible with dates sometimes, but my point remains the same.

I can see both sides, but I would say there is about a 50% show up rate when I post on Craig's list. That's after I talk to them and they just "have to have it"

When I'm buying something I've found out to RUN to a deal. If you don't want to pay retail, there is competition. If you want to be sure you get a "man of their word" call ricks restoration and swipe your card and pay $7000 retail. That's business, anything else is reality.

In reality, you owe them nothing but cash and they owe you nothing til the cash hits the hand. When someone won't take a deposit, that's a flag to get there ASAP!

        You could have sent him a deposit or paid him in full and even got a reciept.
But when you got there he could have simply given you your money back.
What can you do...sue him?  Some people let greed overpower their morals.
Even so, the least the guy could do was call you the minute he sold it.
You are out no money so be thankful you called before getting too far.
I will refrain from expressing my true opinion of this man's buisness ethics.

I believe that after a deal is made, that's it, it's done.  If you think that an item is worth more, and there is a possibility of sellers remorse, don't do the deal.  What should've happened was the buyer should have told the person that this item is in a pending deal and if it doesn't go through, you can buy it then.

New Hampshire...huh...I'll have to look at the SMC map and be cautious on deals made from there. LOL.

 

Unless you have a location with a sign out front, it's no more business then a yard sale. Ask someone to hold something at a yard sale until you can come back with the cash in a couple of days..... See how that works out.

I don't see it as a moral issue, or a business issue, its a "deal" issue. If you were paying full value then someone couldn't offer more because you had the morals to pay what it was worth and there is no incentive to sell it to someone else.

whilst reading your opening post you referred to the deal as

"the price was good" and later "the price was great"...........


moondawg is correct about deposits, if the guy is going to sell to someone else for more,

then paying a deposit is unlikely to make a difference as he will just refund deposit to you


and nothing is 100% certain whatever you do................................................. BUT


if the price is good or the price is great to you

then its also likely to be good or great to others

so just need to collect at earliest opportunity and so reduce the time available for others

to help change the mind of the seller


i have had deals pulled by sellers many many times, it just happened again earlier today....


its frustrating, very frustrating however the level of frustration tends to be higher when the

deal is really good or the item is particularly rare or you have been waiting a longtime for that

particular part or machine.


of course you could leave immediately and have a x4 hour drive and he still sells x30 mins b4

you arrive.......but you will lose far less items that way and get more items that are "a great

deal" and by getting more of "the great deals" these will always far outweigh the ones that

still get away...


GP still frustrated after losing another deal this morning.........................................

Well im sorry MaineT but I strongly disagree with you " the morals to pay what it's worth " what does that even mean anyways ? So you're telling me that if you go buy a vendo 81 listed at $1750 and you feel it's probably worth $2500 retail, you will insist on giving the guy an extra $750 based on morals ? That's completely absurd,  what is it really worth anyways, it's worth what you are willing to pay and what he is willing to part with it for ! All I'm saying is that when you make a deal and a price is set and pick up arrangements have been made, the deal is and should be done, the machine is technicly sold pending pickup, as Larry stated, if you were not happy with the agreement and wanted to hold out for more money then don't make the deal in the first place ! And I would hardly compare buying from a dealer and colector to buying something from a yard sale ! As far as a deposite goes, he didn't not want one, I didn't see any point on insisting, lesson learned I guess !

Yes the initial price of the vendo 44 was good, the final negotiated price for the package deal was great !

I should also state that none of the machines we had made a deal on were advertised or listed anywhere !

The preliminary agreement has been made, but the deal is far from done until the machines are loaded and the cash has changed hands. Some people say, cash talks, bull$h!t walks.

I've gotten to a bunch of machines and the pictures didn't tell the whole story. My offer was contingent on the machines being what they were represented to be. Are you saying I can't back out if that "great working machine" when I got didn't get cold, didn't have a coin mech, and had belt line rust? "But it still works, listen, you can hear the compressor" just needs a shot of freon!

If I'm buying a machine and I'm getting a fair deal, I'm busting a move to get there before they CAN change their mind, because I know it's not done and someone else from SMC can offer more plus a box of cigars! It happened!

If you pay what something is worth, then someone CAN'T offer more. Point blank. Lowball and get someone that is in a tight spot, you better get you wallet out quickly.(I'm not saying you lowballed, but people do looking for desperate or stupid people) Don't give them the chance to get a more beneficial offer. Unless cash is changing hands and your loading.... It means, I agree with the deal, but only until I get a better one, you no show, or back out.

And if you get there and it's a little old lady selling a machine for a fraction the value then shame on you for taking advantage of the elderly. Its ok, right? They agreed with the price, what's the problem! Fixed income, who cares, I flipped it for 4 times the money quick! Let her eat cat food, she doesn't really NEED those meds....

What was the business name of the dealer you were dealing with? Or was it not a dealer like you are suggesting?

I recently had a customer get mad at me over a freezer I offered him first and he wanted me to hold for him in case his went down. When I offered it I told him I would let him pay some up front and make payments over 6 months. I explained that if he didn't get it soon I had other people interested and would sell it if he didn't make a move.

He himmed and hawed about it and I called him twice and informed him I had a buyer if he wasn't going to take it. He said he couldn't do it right now and would take the risk. A few day's later his freezer went down and he called me to install the one I had and I told him I sold it and he ripped me a new one for selling it. I told him that we had many conversations about it and that I repeatedly warned him his compressor was going bad. It was a 30 year old unit that had been retrofitted several times and the unit I had was 4 years old and ran when I removed it.

What would have cost him $2500 out the door will now cost around $7000 for all new equipment. Did I do anything wrong? Not in my opinion but I didn't like getting reamed for selling the equipment. If he told me yes I want it and we set a date for install he would have gotten it no matter if some one offered more or had the full amount up front.

Making old ladies eat cat food ?, depriving them of there meds ? :Oo: Not sure if this is the same thread I started but I'm glad to see you feel that strongly about protecting the elderly, I am also a advocate for protecting the elderly lol, my grand parents would love you to peices lol However, I don't get how believing that a man's word is his bond and really all he has, turned into a discussion about me abusing the elderly lol, if I didn't know any better I would almost think this was personal, so before this turns into a childish, pointless, senseless mud slinging match, I will end my contribution to this thread by saying this, I do strongly believe in a man's word being his bond and without it he is nothing, I also believe that the man who I made the deal with, whether a actual "dealer" or someone that actively sells and restores multiple vending machines on ebay and craigslist and may or may not also sell from his numerous shops and storage facilities, wait that kinda sounds like a dealer, I actually never made it to New Hampshire to get a business card or verify if he was actually registered so sorry Tim I can't give you the name lol not that I would anyways unless the man defrauded me, regardless I do believe this man was in the wrong and even though the money was not in his hand and the machines on my truck, the deal was made and he should have told the other buyer that the machine was sold pending pickup as he had promissed me ! And yes I think he is a shady seller/dealer !

I was going to spare you all the cheesiness of quoting John D Rockefeller but I just can't help myself  :tounge:

" I believe in the sacredness of a promiss, that a man's word should be as good as his bond, that character, not wealth, power or position is of supreme worth "

Jeff !

CAT FOOD, what's wrong with cat food.  Like Andy Griffith advertised, "Everything taste good on a Ritz cracker."  "Mmmm Mmmm good cracker."  O.K. now we totally went off the subject. :biggrin:

It's not personal, but maybe I don't want to hear someone complain any more then their wife. Still not getting personal, it's what I got from the start of your post. It happens to all of us, and nobody ever complains... Wow, I agreed to pay top dollar at $9000 for that vmc 7up and he backed out because someone else paid over retail. What if your wrong and this isn't about their "word" and just selling stuff in a blind market where buyers show up 50% of the time after giving their word.

I never apologize.
I'm sorry, but that's just the way I am.
- Homer J. Simpson

Yabba Dabba Doo.
- Fred Flintstone

Is it just me or does nearly every post end up in a slanging match recently.

I'm all for free speech etc but whatever happened to that nice warm glow that has existed ever since 2005 when I
first joined.

Come on guys "feel the love."

Wow did this thread go way off the path. Anyway I do have a restored VMC 81 Pepsi for sale. I do have one buyer ahead of you who I am working a deal with. He has first chance at it, but if he does not take it I would be happy to offer it to you. I only know you on here by your user name. So if you are interested you can call me or pm me your name and number and will contact you if the first buyer backs out.
 

LOL - Dave, I was thinking the same thing.  I think folks in the US are getting a little cranky from the summertime heat.  I know here in PA it is finally topping 90 with about 90% humidity after a pretty cool and wet spring. 

As I tell my Service Desk manager when he gets into a foul mood "Dude, cut down on the grapefruit!  You are way too bitter!"

Jim

Well I guess I'm jumping in with some input. @MaineT,  I would challenge you to find someone on this site who doesn't try to buy a coke item, whether it be a machine, or a sign, etc, for cheaper than market price... If I see a vendo 81 on CL for $400 , I'm not going to offer the guy $1,200... I'm going to drive my ass over to that guy and buy it. Now obviously Jeff's situation was a little different because it was 16 hours away and he couldn't just pick up and leave, but he did the next best thing and buy the machine and set up a time to go get it; and he got the sellers word. Last time I checked if you list a machine on eBay with a $400 buy it now, and it sells, then somebody contacts you saying they will pay $800, its a little late for that, you have to honor your original sale..... You all can see where I'm going here. Anyway that's for burning 15 minutes of work for me, dont have much to do right now :)

The bottom line for me is:

Seller made the deal, all details were worked out.
The seller in this case should have held the machine since he had already established an agreement with a  buyer.
In this case the Seller is a piece of S**t!

S**t lacks morals.   

That sucks.. I stick to a price once I agree on selling something.. I don't even want to hear other offers from people because it doesn't matter.

          Screw the guy you are working with Rod......sell it out from under him!   :glare:   J/K

So you get there any take advantage of that little old lady that didnt know what she has... What a guy. Sorry, No chemo this week grandma, you sold that old coke machine to JACK for $400 and he flipped it for $1500 the next day..  The $400 bought grampa's headstone though... Well, at least JACK made money. Ya, lecture me on honoring your deal to someone who's likely to no show on you.... Go ahead. I've emailed quite a few ads and told the person they were way too low. I've even done it on a machine I was looking at to buy.  You can be Walmart if you want, I'll pay a fair price. If they are asking a fair price, do you find yourself still offering less just to get the better deal?  It's one thing to get a deal and pay a fair price, its another to pay $400 for an 81...

I like how the people who are complaining that your word is you bond are the same people that would take advantage of another person so quickly. You don't have to pay top retail, but don't bitch when they sell a machine that you already pushed off the pickup date once.

Hey, didn't I point out a vendo 81 that turned out to be a sore spot.....  one member here sold to another member at his cost to help out another member for "himself" just to have that member shove it up his a$$ and flip it for a profit?

Ya... Go ahead, lecture me guys. I pay fair prices then members here try to offer me less then I paid so they can flip or restore and make thousands. There is a certain person on this board that tried to give me a line about what a huge risk he is taking by restoring these rare machines..... Oh, btw they will make $5000 if I take a loss?!?!

The guy that offered more to a seller (on a machine I was picking up) plus a box of cigars chimed in on this post and made a comment on this post!!! Lets just say, why is it ok to offer someone more to get someone else to back out not the same thing as honoring your deal. It's ok to do the honorable thing and try to break another members deal, but now you owe someone on Craig's list something. NICE! I actually had no hard feelings, and I text back and forth with the member often.... It's F'ing CRAIG'S LIST!!! That guy didnt owe me anything, its a freaking cash and carry, online classified listing yardsale. Stop thinking its more then it really is. It isn't a business place with big brother watching like eBay, who takes a % to broker deals for you to make sure it is fair. Stop thinking you bought ANYTHING until cash changes hand.... That's what cash and carry means!

We went from a new member just venting about losing a machine that was told it was his to dying old women selling 81s for $400!!!
Remember when collecting was fun and posts were about what we just found and we couldn't believe stuff was still out there...
Why post stuff that offends or might hurt someone's feelings... just don't post at all...

Eric - I'm with you... Why are we beating each other up so much. We have lost very valuable members just because of this.
There was a time when members would do things for others and it would actually cost them money to do it. I have benefited from
this on lots of occasions.

We all love a bargain. Sometimes we even share the leads.

Lets get back to what we do best and that's welcoming everyone and looking out for each other.

I was the one offended by his "venting".  When did this become a forum to vent when even your wife won't listen because you are wrong? How is a post bitching about a possible deal going south fun? So he is aloud to offend me but I'm not able to comment. I have to agree with with the offensive comments he made to start this post? And I can't defend myself when people personally attack me? Thanks.

Moderators, please remove..

lets all just agree to disagree I guess...

Peace love and soda machines! :happydrinkers:

I stayed out of this one because it was off track by the time I read it.  But here goes  .   .   .   .  When I list stuff on CL, I try to take people in the order that they contact me and if somebody says they are coming with cash, I will nail them down to a time and hold the item until that time while still fielding offers in the event that the original deal falls through.

As far as buying, I learned a long time ago that people are not generally like me and if I want something I need to get there with the cash ASAP or it will likely be gone.  I have been lucky on several machines but I have also lost out on quite a few where I thought I had a deal in place.  Those are the breaks of this game we call collecting.  When it comes to dealing with SMC members, if I make a deal I consider it closed but again, that is just me and I can't expect everyone to operate the same way.

I just bought a truck (the one with the rust in the bed) for my son last week from the college-age son of a pretty good friend.  He posted it on his Facebook page and listed the price at $3,000 which was a very good deal.  As a matter of fact, I could probably throw in a bed-liner and flip it for $5,000 pretty easily but at the end of the day I am not going to find anything better for $5,000.  And I would never do that to a friend--it would be hard to explain to them that I profited from their pricing it lower than market.  When I agreed to buy the truck "upon an inspection and test drive", the kid asked me if I was sure I would buy it because he had someone offer him more if he would sell it out from under me.  The kid followed through when I told him I just needed to get the cash from the bank.  I got lucky and I know it but I also knew the kid and his dad to be people of good character.  In a normal FSBO deal where the parties did not know each other or have to worry about running into each other in the future, that truck would have been long gone.

I agree with Jeff that your word should be your bond in everything that you do; but, unless you really know the person there is no way to determine if they will follow through.  And like Tim said, my dad taught me a long time ago that "money talks and BS walks!"  And for that reason, I try not to get too upset when a deal falls through because I don't know the other person well enough to understand their circumstances or reason for selling.  I have bought plenty of items for good deals and while I would not generally pay more than asking, I have thrown in an extra $20 a time or two when the person agreed to hold an item for me and followed through.  I also do not generally offer less than asking when someone is selling me a machine at a good deal and it appears that they are in tough financial straights.  Again, that is just me and I have probably left some money on the table at times but I still got a good deal so I am not bothered by that.

Lastly, I do have to agree that lately there have been more threads that have gotten off track because of differences of opinions.  I come here to learn more about our hobby and get away from that kind of BS in my regular job so it is not fun to read those kinds of threads.  And that is probably why I do not generally jump into those frays when they occur.  We can all agree to disagree on any topic and still get along.

My two cents anyway!

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:

Bottom line is, yes it's an expected part of the hobby we chose, but no it's not something you'd expect from someone who you know is a collector and has to deal with the same BS.   I think once a deal is made and both parties agree on a fair price thats it, just to back out and take some more cash is just a dick move.  Your word is all you have and once people can't accept that anymore you're destined to be a very lonely collector

I'm sure Jeff's wife, like most of the wives of members on the site, support their hobby or they wouldn't even be on here.. So I could see he was just joking...
I also see that he thought he had friends here (there are a lot of great folks here).. and wanted to vent... I have seen other post where something goes wrong,
paint job is crappy, getting something chromed goes wrong, something is shipped poorly, or isn't shipped at all, etc. and you tell your friends... wanting to get
their input... I don't see how it offended... but I guess some read it different...
 
I just don't see why posts need to go South... He's venting.. felt like he got a bad deal... Don't agree, think he deserved it, dont' care about the guy or
dont' want to get to know the member, dont' post... that's what I do... why offend someone you don't even know... You might be missing out on a
great friendship

And yes.. PEACE, LOVE AND SODAMACHINES! :happydrinkers:

L.O.L
MaineT....... First of all... I have never sold a coke item I have bought so stop making the flipping arguement.. Second of all, there are plenty of times i have offered more money than what somebody asked for.. My point was, sometimes people find great deals and based on the situation, there Is no need to offer them more money. I bought a vendo 81 for 400$, but the guy that sold it owned a couple of 6 figure cars, so no, I didn't give him 800 or whatever.. Stop making up crazy hypotheticals that have less to do about collecting and more to do about ethics.

Finally, the main point was the he was told the guy said the machines were all his , and if I read correctly, he paid for them too! The least the guy could have done was tell him he got another offer, but no, he sold it out from under him. I could see this happening if it was one machine and Jeff was no longer going to have any thing to buy from the guy, but he was buying 3 machines... Sigh...

We are all here for the same reason... We love this hobby, and we love sharing it with eachother. There is no need to get so worked up. Your our opinion is your own, and people need to respect that, so I am sorry if you feel attacked, but tossing around hypotheticals where my hypothetical purchase leads to the death of an old lady, well that's taking it too far.  Anyway that's all I have to say.

Some people have forgotten the golden rule "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you".
I am not a rich man, but I'll be Damned if I let a couple hundred dollars come between me and my integrity, character, and reputation.
It may have cost me some money, but if I say I am going to do something I do it.

Is this a dream......or are we still having this conversation?  :Oo: :oh: :oops: :wow: :tounge:

I love garlic pickles

 :happydrinkers:

I agree...your word is your bond, or should be.  These days that is becoming more rare!

I will say that not all members here are dealers and out to flip machines for money!  I personally only collect, so I don't even consider what I could sell it for and how much profit I could make...I enjoy the hobby of collecting and the fellowship it generally brings.  I look for the best deal, since the less I spend on a machine...the more I have to fix it or get another one.  I didn't think twice when I found a Vendo 81 in an abandoned building, tracked down the owner, and he offered it to me for $22.00 along with a Westy Standard for the same price!  He made the offer, and since that was what he wanted, I was glad to pay it.  It's not my job to educate folks on what they have and the presumed value of it.

I too miss the days of warm, friendly posts relating the finds and good deals of the week and the high-fives given by others.  Just my 2 cents...     :wow:

I have learn that as soon as you make a deal you drop everything, grab the truck and haul ass to get the stuff.

This all comes down to $$$. PERIOD.

I was selling some lighting about a month back. This was high quality lighting that I had removed from our house. I probably got 5 calls on it the day I first posted it. The first lady didn't haggle at all she said I'll pay your asking price. (The price was extremely fair if not a bit low, I just wanted this stuff gone) Then the second lady who called, maybe 30 minutes later was very distraught that I said I had a potential buyer. She said QUOTE "I will give you an extra $100 for the chandelier, just screw the other buyer". UNQUOTE. Seriously? Now while I was certainly taking a risk, I politely told her no, that I'm a man of my word and I would give the other lady the opportunity to come out and make the transaction. Sure enough the lady did show up and ended up buying a few more smaller lights as it turned out. It never crossed my mind to screw that lady over....once.

I'm not saying I'm better then anyone here, but I was raised that you stick to your word. Call me a ignorant old southern boy, but $$$ don't rule my life.

Jeffmon,

If you are really hard up for a Vendo 44, I've got a line on working original in my general area for $1200. I know you are way up north, but again depends on how hard up you are.

Let's stop the negativity on these boards. I got no problem with anyone venting or calling someone out if its not completely out of left field. Looks like the majority side with Jeffmon here, so let's just drop it and move on.

I'll give you an extra $100 for that Vendo 44.  Just screw Jeff!  :biggrin: 8) :laugh:

Sorry I could not resist! :tounge:

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:

yea been down that road , a few weeks ago I contacted a lady about a gas pump in the paper and she lived 15 minutes from me. I said I would come right over and pick it up. No she said I have to get in the shower wait an hour. said sure then she called me back in 30 minutes and was sorry some man came to the door and she took his money and let him have it.  Just so you know a woman's word is no good anymore.

         On a Thursday some time ago, I found an ad for an old machine at a garage sale for the upcomming Saturday. It had an address so I went straight over there. Saw an 81 buried in the garage. Gardener warned me not to ring the doorbell. Disregarded his warning and that lady sternly reminded the sale was not until 8:00 Saturday. When I showed up at 7:00 A.M she informed me that someone bought it Friday night! :censored:

Chiming in now as it just happened AGAIN ! ! !

Yep, I'm sorry if someone here bought what I'm about to embark on, Oh well, it's not your fault, I guess...

Called about a newer Stoner in Ohio on Mon, spoke with the secretary, Rose, and asked if I could send a check for the asking amount. No problem she said and she even sent a few photos I asked for just to confirm some things.  The next day, Tues, I emailed Rose and told her the check went out with today's mail and to keep an eye out for it Fri. possibly Sat...
I called her to see if the payment arrived and WHAT DO YOU THINK SHE SAID...?  Well, not what I wanted to hear ! ! !  I was told someone picked it this morning and then handed the phone to Ron Germadnik, who I have not talked with before. He became all defensive when I asked why he sold it knowing I wanted the machine and the money was coming... He made excuses stating I was slow and I told him I cannot control the speed of the postal service, only that it usually takes three days for something to arrive...
Yea I'm pissed ! ! !

That's a dirty one. They should have at least givin time for payment to arrive in that circumstance. On the bright side, it was a newer Stoner (thinking big w/ square mirror). Hope something better comes along for you soon.  :smile:  Hopefully they don't cash your check.

whatever happened to your word being your bond !  It went out the window with the hand shake to seal the deal, manors and a smile with a thank you... :Oo:

what replaced it was rudeness ,inconsideration , and not taking  responsibility for ones actions ( or their stupidity)   and the big monkey in the room is Greed.

 Then throw in  American Pickers ,Rick and pawn stars  and some wrong info  getting put out there .