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Title: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: Jim on May 28, 2013, 08:21:56 pm
Hello All,

Looking to see if anyone has any extra parts for a National Cigarette Machine...
I'm looking for a decent coin entry bezel as seen below.
If you have one, please contact me with details.
 :hopefull:
Thanks ! ! !
.


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: davethebirdman on May 29, 2013, 02:11:53 am

Sorry Jim
 
I don't have any spare bezels but I do have a few of the metal plates that go inside if you need them

Dave


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: Jim on May 29, 2013, 11:30:46 am
Thanks Dave!
I'm not sure what "metal plates" you are referring to...

Additionally, the "National" script logo is broken so if anyone has a lead to locate one of these as well, it is greatly appreciated ! ! !


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: Ltransam on May 29, 2013, 01:06:27 pm


Jim .

Ill Try Checking tonight .As I scraped a machine out 2 years ago and have sent many of the parts out to members .


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: davethebirdman on May 29, 2013, 03:04:41 pm

Jim

Its the metal plates that fit inside the bits you need. With instructions on them.

Dave


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: mznb1u on May 29, 2013, 08:38:58 pm
Jim,

That bezel is hard to find without the top broken out of it.  The spring on the coin return lever was too strong in those machine--or the metal in the bezel was too weak.  Either way, on almost all of the National's that I have every seen, the top of that bezel is broken out.  I have been looking for one for my seven pull for a long time so if you find two that are not broken, let me know!

I might have the script logo though.  Do you know how long that one should be roughly?

 :drinking: Tim :drinking:


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: Ltransam on May 30, 2013, 07:41:31 pm


 Jim

     Here's What I got . The one on the Left (Quarter Entry ) is the One You Need .Mine is Bent up a little And cracking . But the Right one is in realy good Shape (Dime Entry ) But You can Have them Both and every thing you see . I'll bet you could Have the slot Machined Opened and It Would Work Fine  Let Me Know And PM your Address .


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: Ltransam on May 30, 2013, 07:47:18 pm


 2 more Picture's 


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: jbrumett on May 30, 2013, 08:03:41 pm
Gosh Leonard.....you are awesome. Aways trying to help a brother out!!!!


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: Ltransam on May 30, 2013, 09:23:38 pm


Thanks Jeff  :smile:  You have done the same Buddy

Jim I think I have the scrip also I"dig in the box tomorrow evening .i know I have the trim and a coin mech and the ends


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: SLIDER on May 31, 2013, 12:02:16 am
I am also looking for that same national script if anyone knows of another....


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: davethebirdman on May 31, 2013, 05:07:29 am

I too can vouch for Leonard's kindness. He sent me bits to make my machine complete.



Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: Larry on May 31, 2013, 06:19:50 am
Leonard is awesome.  He's helped me plenty of times too.  From making me a locking mechanism for Stoner gum machine to all the steps in buying, picking up, and delivering a Bally Skill Roll for me, and all the things in between.  He's a very unselfish person.  I vote that today is national Leonard day.  I'm arranging a parade in Ohio as speak.  :biggrin:  Seriously, thanks Leonard for everything, you are one of a kind.  You are like family to me.

O.K. back to Jims post.  

Did anyone ever find a National cigarette machine with the match dispenser on the left side?  I saw one once in an auction for three scrap machines years ago.  Mine doesn't have one and I always thought that it would be cool to dispense the penny match book.  If so, send me a picture. 


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: mznb1u on May 31, 2013, 08:56:49 am
My National 7 Pull has three matchbook dispensing columns that are behind the cigarette vend columns.  I bought the machine from the owner of a longtime vending company and as he explained to me, the machine gave a book of matches with every pack.  I have never tested it.  The other interesting fact that he shared with me is that they would get local politicians and judges to "sponsor" the matchbooks so I would bet that the vending company never had to pay for the matches!

I know some of the cigarette machines have a match dispenser on the side opposite of the coin mech and there was a separate penny per book vend system but I have not seen that on the many Nationals that I have looked at.

 :drinking: Tim  :drinking:

PS:  And the rumors you heard are true, Leonard is a helluva guy.  :happydrinkers: He has always been quite helpful and even shot me a free part or two including the missing bottom shelf for my Vendo 81-D.  What time is the Parade?  I need to dig out my tricycle and get my clown make-up on! :biggrin: 8) :laugh:


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: davethebirdman on May 31, 2013, 11:23:41 am

I have/had three National's two have what Tim has and one has the other style that costs you a penny for a box.
Mine still had the original matches inside.



Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: Larry on May 31, 2013, 12:42:46 pm
Dave,

Do you have any pictures of that?


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: davethebirdman on May 31, 2013, 04:14:57 pm

Hi Larry

The restored one I have in my little room doesn't have one fitted. I have another in storage in the garden.

I'll try and get to it tomorrow and take some pictures.

Dave


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: kbareit on May 31, 2013, 05:05:14 pm
I can't help out on the national machine but since it's National Leonard day I have to say he is truly a great guy and will help out when he can. That being said I have only had great dealings with all the members here that I had an oppurtunity to meet or make a deal with.


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: Jim on May 31, 2013, 08:20:06 pm
Hey Leonard,
I will take you up on your generosity and PM you tomorrow and discuss details...

Larry,
The machine I'm working on functions just as Tim stated; during the vend cycle, a pack of matches is dispensed from one of three columns in the back.  As far the match vendor along the left side, I have an early National that has this; deposit a penny and pull the lever/knob for delivery.
Do you want photos of the penny vend matches column...?  There's really not much to it, but let me know so the next time I go to storage, I can get a few photos of the inside. In the photo below, the two outside machines have penny match dispensers...

(http://www.soda-machines.com/images2/cigarettes_1.jpg)


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: johnieG on May 31, 2013, 09:24:47 pm
Dave,

Do you have any pictures of that?

Just use your Imagination... :tounge:


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: BrianS on May 31, 2013, 11:19:22 pm
Just use your Imagination... :tounge:

Ok, that was pretty funny -  :laugh:


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: Creighton on May 31, 2013, 11:23:43 pm
Impressive, herd/flock whatever of machines you have there Jim. Congrats!
Creighton


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: Larry on June 01, 2013, 10:12:35 am
Jim it seems that the machine I saw, ten years ago, had to be an older version like the two that you have displayed on the ends.  I won't need a picture or need to use my imagination to see this, since my machine is different.  Thanks Dave and Jim for the offers of the pictures.

I guess I have the newer more common style machine, like the pink and Maroon one in your picture.  I thought that since my machine had the deposit a penny for a book of matches coin plate on the left side that it should have a rejector, coin mech, vending mechanism, and coin catcher.  I wonder why they continued to install the deposit one penny plates on the left side if they went away from the whole mechanism design?

By the way do you collect these machines?  You do have a large amount of these.  


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: mznb1u on June 01, 2013, 10:25:17 am
If anyone turns up a quarter bezel that is not broken, i could use one for my National.

Turns out I do not have an extra name badge.

Tim


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: davethebirdman on June 02, 2013, 02:44:55 am

Larry

After nearly an hour of clearing a path to the nine pull I have in the shed I opened the front up to find that the match unit isn't inside.
It must have been in the one that I sold.

I can't remember much about it really. It was a separate stand alone unit. Can't even work out how the matches were dispensed now.
I'm thinking automatically because I don't recall a lever.

I only have one picture of the insides of that machine which I have attached. It doesn't help much but you can see the separate coin slot
on the right side of the picture.

Sorry... Not much use to you. Hopefully Jim will come up trumps.

Dave 


Title: Re: National Cigarette Coin Entry Bezel Needed...
Post by: Larry on June 02, 2013, 09:12:42 am
Thanks Dave.  That was a clean machine. Very nice.