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Some of you may know this person due to the rarity of these machines but here goes anyway. I saw an email address listed online for someone who has a couple Coca Cola decappers and he was asking someone a question on a website. Not this one! I thought I would take a gamble and see if he was interested in selling either of them. I sent an email and I got a reply I wasn't expecting. Do you think I took his response the wrong way? You decide...


My first email

Are you selling any of your coca cola decappers? I just saw a post and was
wondering. Thanks


His response email

No,
FYI, Decappers are now $450,000 USD and sold as Industrial revolution smithsonian quality items, not coke machines.
 
Regards.


My second email

Lol.  Good luck with that. I guess my 1924 Coca Cola Siphonmix must be worth 1,000,000 USD. Maybe I'll call the Smithsonian and let them know. I didn't realize these Coca Cola Machines were worth so much. FYI. These MACHINES were used for dispensing Coca Cola and putting a smile on people's faces. Maybe you should try using yours and see if it helps your !%@$ty attitude.

I've been dying to use this Meme... :laugh:  And how dare you ask why, why You Peasant

The old "No, and by the way you couldn't afford it anyway cause I'm just better than you".... What an a$$hat.

LOL. I couldn't help myself. I had to vent. Everyone I've met so far involved in collecting soda related items have been very friendly and helpful. I was bound to find one snob in 24 years. I guess that's not to bad of odd's :biggrin:

Notice he's not going to donate them to a museum & take a tax credit! Hah! I want da' cash b!tchE$

He is definitely not doing that. I thought the same thing you did when I read it. It seemed pretty clear to me also.

Anyone know what these really sell for?

That has to be the most expensive Coke machine I ever heard of. Oops I meant industrial revolution Smithsonian quality item. My sincere apologies, I lost my mind for a moment there.  :tounge:

Hahaha  It sound so much more expensive when its said that way doesn't it. I think you could add that line to anything and get at least 400,000 more. Example
For Sale--- industrial revolution Smithsonian quality 1985 Ford Escort for only $400,500

I thought Alan Huffman had the last Pilot Model left in the U.S.?  Wasn't there only 7 made?

Jared

Thats what I thought but apparently this guy has two.

Maybe it's been fabricated out of a Vendo 39 Ala resto' Ricky? :blush:

 

    NO !!! Low Baller"s either        :tounge:

Im not sure but he knows Allen by the sounds of his last email I just got. He says they both value them at 450,000. I guess you technically can value it yourself at whatever you want. Reality is what you can get for it when you sell it. I haven't seen one sell for that much as far as I know.

Did he send pictures of them?

I'm posting his last comment only because I need to set the record straight on the Siphonmix 5A. This is not the first time I have heard this rumor. I have left the names mentioned out.


His latest reply

No one is trying to sell you anything nor does anyone even try to contact you
The Siphonmix you bought off of *****came from ****** ****** who bought it from Red Barrons,
*** from Vintage Vending built the whole thing from a sign and ID plate.  He threw away the cabinet that was with the ID tag. (It was too rough to save any part of it.)  *** openly told every one it was all a fantasy piece and no part of it was real.  I understand you called Allen ******* about the machine.  That Siphonmix is worthless. The parts in it are added. ***** listed it 30 minutes after calling me.
 
I am not trying to sell anything to you.  There is no attitude here, just info.
However, Why don't you fly to Stead field in Reno Nevada where we run the Air races and repeat what you said here?  If you don't like the price then move on, its not for sale.  Don't talk like a coward and hide.
Nobody wants your input.  Allen ***** also values his decapper at $450K. That is what it honestly takes to buy one.  There are a dozen slot machine models which sell for over 500K, it is not unheard of.
 
Im the guy with all the military fighter jets at Stead Field, Its not hard to find me, I will wait for the smart mouth coward.  I will get your location from ***** and ******.
 
Regards

Red Leader standing by       :tounge:

My response


I'm not talking like a coward and hidding. I simply stated your attitude was bad. I didn't email you to start an argument. I asked a polite simple question and got a snoby rich %$#@#$% answer. A simple no I'm sorry they are not for sale would have worked. As far as my machine maybe you should get your facts straight and stick to military planes. There is a picture with a description and serial number of the siphonmix listed in gameroom magazine vol3 num3 dated 1991. I'd be happy to send over the article. So explain to me how *** made this fantasy piece in 2003 if theres a picture in 1991. I spoke to ***** personally at vintage vending and he said they owned that piece in around 2003. I have proof this was not a fantasy piece. You have the word of a liar. This rumor of a fantasy piece was  started by someone who never owned nor knows anything about the siphonmix. I don't need to mention his name I think we both know who that is. That same person told me it was a box and would never work. I was also told this rumor was made up because he was unable to purchase this machine many years ago. It is funny that it has all of its original mechanical parts and works great. If this was a fantasy piece how would there also be an original sign and tag? I also have an article describing the siphonmix and the assistant developers name from the 1920's. I have done countless hours of research on this machine and will not let anyone try to discredit this machine with false accusations. I would love for you to prove me wrong with real facts like articles or pictures not rumors.  I think the decapper is a great piece and would love to own one. That was my only reason for sending you a message. I live in Plymouth, Ma so feel free to stop in and see a great collection and machine. I'll show you around with a smile and a coke from my machine.

Here is the link to gameroom magazine  Page 7
http://www.megalextoria.com/BBS/files/magazines/Gameroom/GameRoom%20Magazine%20-%2020th%20Anniversary%20Archive/content/1991/pdf/GameRoom_1991_V03_03.pdf

Here is the other link I was reffering to. You need both links to read whole article


http://books.google.com/books?ei=oOhFUdz7IYvi4APo04HYCw&id=jvbNAAAAMAAJ&dq=soda+service+corporation+siphonmixed&q=siphonmix#search_anchor

http://books.google.com/books?ei=oOhFUdz7IYvi4APo04HYCw&id=jvbNAAAAMAAJ&dq=soda+service+corporation+siphonmixed&q=walters#search_anchor

I did not get any pictures of the machine but I have no reason not to believe him.

I have added a picture to help understand what machine I'm referring to.

I wouldnt give a penny more than 430,000 in my opinion.  :oops:

Not sure what is going on here. Are you serious about purchasing a De-Capper?
If so there are not very many made so that would make it a sellers' market...with the seller setting the starting price.
Make a counter offer and hope something gets worked out.

How does the the Siphonmix enter into this fray?
Nice enough in their own right but no Vendo Decapper by any streach of the imagination.

Confused.
Creighton
 

I wouldn't pay $450,000 for any coke machine. I won't ever have $450,000.

However, there are people out there that have that sort of cash lying around and I can imagine that they wouldn't
think twice about spending it on something they really want for their collection. If "The Decapper" is the last piece
then I could see it selling for that. Not to me or anyone else here I'd imagine. But there are people out there
that earn this sort of money in a day.

Creighton is right. Its his and he can ask what he likes. The only person that is going to buy it is someone who knows what
it is.

BTW - I prefer your machine to a decapper any day of the week. I've got $439,000 if you're interested...

Dave

Creighton, Yes I would love to purchase a decapper just like many of us to add to my collection. When I sent the email I had no idea who this person was and had no prior contact. I was just a little shocked at the response I got back from him. It was more in his delivery. Like I said a simple " No its not for sale or I would sell it for 450,000. Instead he responded "No, FYI, Decappers are now $450,000 USD and sold as Industrial revolution Smithsonian quality items, not coke machines". No where in my email did I say Coke Machine or make a remark about it not being a quality item or worth that in my first email. At this point he could offer it to me for $1,000 and I would say no thanks.

The only reason I brought the Siphonmix into he conversation was to make a point.  My point being exactly what you said. He has a machine that is one of only several, that he values at 450,000. I have a the siphonmix which is one of one known to exist. So I was making a sarcastic remark back to him that I guess I can personally value mine at 1,000,000. He then started to make inaccurate comments about my machine like a rich spoiled brat. This is not the first time I've heard these rumors, apparently coming from from him and his friend. I wanted to stop the rumors before they affect the value of my machine or Industrial revolution Smithsonian quality item. LOL I put my proof out there so everyone can see these are false rumors started by someone who was unable to buy the machine. Dave, Thanks for the comment I think you just raised the value of my machine some more. I'll let you know when I sell it. :biggrin:

Here is a post that I posted in 2008

http://soda-machines.com/discussions/index.php?topic=8621.0

One sold years ago on ebay that was in a warehouse fire it was restorable and needed a restoration for around $25,000.

Walters Had one, Huffman has one, Schmidt museum had two they still may be there?? I have not heard of them being auctioned off yet?

They are out there but indeed rare. and HUGE!!!

I know the guy you are talking about and he is from Canada. I think the two decappers he has came from the Schmidt museum. Not 100% on that.

I read that post the other day. Those are some great pictures of a rare decapper. I wish I could have gone to that museum and seen them in person. Maybe someday I'll get to add one to the collection.

Yes would be cool to see one in operation... sure would be cool if someone had one to post of video of it working... as it would be quite a marvel to see?

The guy I know, used to restore a ton of machines and was one of the big collectors back quite a few years ago... he owned two of them at one time in the late 80's ..

not sure what he got for his when he sold them, but if I can track him down, i may just have to see if he'll tell me..

according to the tag on the machine in the museum, it says 251 where made, which debunks the myth that only 7 where made? but based on size I'm sure not many survived as when old factories or buildings where destroyed I'm sure these where considered "built in " equipment and got demolished with the rest..

I was just goofing around and searching again and this post came up on the Vintage Vending site under Decapper.. it's dated just a few days ago...  so for those of you who want one.. this guy HAS TWO.. Get your checkbooks out...

post on Vintage Vending:  
http://www.vintagevending.com/vendo-coca-cola-bottle-decapperDan Wesley // Mar 23, 2013 at 9:20 am

http://www.vintagevending.com/vendo-coca-cola-bottle-decapper (http://www.vintagevending.com/vendo-coca-cola-bottle-decapper)

http://www.vintagevending.com/the-vendo-decapper-in-production#more-2015 (http://www.vintagevending.com/the-vendo-decapper-in-production#more-2015)

http://www.vintagevending.com/ (http://www.vintagevending.com/)

Hello Mark Nylen, if this gets to you, then email me back, I have two Decappers and wanted to talk to you.
 
I am in Reno or San Fran mostly.
 Regards, Dan
 Email: f86esabre2@aol.com

I'm guessing (just a guess mind you) that based on his email address (F-86 Sabre) - he is probably the same guy that sent the unpleasant emails to the OP.

Jim

He is in NV, so that is might be what he has to get to break even after having Rick's Restoration do the restoration!!!

Someone has a good eye!

LOL

It was a Vendo 39 before those parts turned up at a swap meet!

..... found under the table at the swap meet.

I just found a video of Allan Huffmans Machine. Its about 3/4 of the way through the video. Looks like it was the one in the fire. He states its the only pilot model left in the world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aziqin7Hdrk   

        Wow.....great video!  Thanks

No prob. I stumbled across it. Thought there were some cool machines in there. Music kinda reminded me of Mr. Rogers neighborhood. Not sure why.

Does have a Mister Rogers feel. Great Vid.
Thanks!
Creighton

I remember about 20 years ago the owner of the Matton IL Coke plant had an old picture of the Indy Coke bottling warehouse and they had either 10 or 11
Decappers inside.  He didn't know what happened to them but I would say it's a good possibility they were hauled to the scrap yard.

OOps that's Mattoon IL

What a shame if that's what happened to them.

Sodaman, You have an awesome list of machines. I'd love to see some pictures? Especially the Mills 45. On my list for sure.

SC1101
I looked at your list of machines and your siphonmix5a you have listed does not have a picture posted at soda machines web site.Maybe you could share a picture and add it to the site.

  Alright Guys !!  You Both Have a very impressive List Of Machine's Including the Delf's
So If a Decapper is $450.000 And The Siphomnix is $1.000.000 Then My One of a Kind Delf Is in  Between .

LOL LOL  :laugh: :laugh: :happydrinkers:

I have a rental full of those things Len. Can't give them away, so making planters out of them :)

that's a nice machine,I'll take one of those planters any day

Ltransam, That is a nice Delf! Never seen that one before. I'd give you 750,000.  :biggrin: Cohammer, I posted a pic for all to see. Not sure if this is what you meant.

Sounds like a very interesting machine.  Rube Goldberg probably invented it!

WOW! And I thought the Lyons was a cool machine. Is there a more beautiful machine than the Syphonmix?
Anyone know the history of the company?

I had looked at SMC machine area and had not seen a picture of the siphonmix  Thanks for posting it is a beautiful machine.

Do you have any pics of the inside of that Siphonmix machine? I agree, an absolutely beautiful looking machine. Very unique.

Pinballdude, I'm not sure if there's a better looking machine but It is unique.The company that made it was called the Soda Service Corporation. From the information I've found which is very limited showed the corporation in business from 1922-1927. Max Albert Walters assisted in the developement of the machine during that period. I attached the links to some of the the info I found. I've done a chronological order of ownership all the way back to 1991. It's very interesting. I'm still working on the rest and have a long way to go back to 1924. If anyone has any info before 1991 please PM me. Thanks

http://books.google.com/books?ei=oOhFUdz7IYvi4APo04HYCw&id=jvbNAAAAMAAJ&dq=soda+service+corporation+siphonmixed&q=walters#search_anchor

http://books.google.com/books?ei=oOhFUdz7IYvi4APo04HYCw&id=jvbNAAAAMAAJ&dq=soda+service+corporation+siphonmixed&q=siphonmix#search_anchor

Cohammer, No Prob. Oldschool, Here you go. The machine has no electrical it is all mechanical. Very neat to see how they made it back in 1924. The first pic is of the inside coin mech/mechanical arm that dispenses syrup and carbonated water from tank above. The coin box is on the right side. Second pic is tank above.

Very interesting. Thanks for the pics. Whoever designed that machine was a master. I absolutely love the sign on top. Would be hard to find a prettier, more eye catching design. I bet it's stunning in person.

There's an image from some literature in the Soda Machines Section

sc1101, would you grant permission to utilize a photo of your machine...? PM me if you could, Thanks

Jim, I will check it out. Thanks. I will PM you.

Let me chime on on this one....since I have collected up machines forever and I have a ton, here is my story on this. I owned this machine!!!! It is orignial on the inside, no doubt about it!!!!! However, the outside has been reproduced, the shell, the mirror and the sign. The original sign is did come with the machine and is in a framed picture frame. There is no doubt that this machine is rare and will work, with the proper restore job.

I never got around to doing it and decided to downsize, so out it went. I think you have a real keeper here and look forward to seeing it work!

Brian, I appreciate you taking the time to comment. Thanks for helping with the facts. I did find the same information as you did. I talked to a member on this site that had made the sign that is on it now and he also mentioned they replaced the mirrors. I also have the framed original sign your referring to. The framing around mirrors, coin mech, internal parts, etc. are original but have been restored many years ago. The mirror framing was chromed at same time the sign and mirrors were installed. I do have pictures before and after plating and I think it really makes the machine. I do agree that at some point they may have replaced some of the sheet metal. I'm sure after almost 100 years there was some kind of rust that needed to be fixed. Thanks again for your input. When I get it 100% operational I will send you a video. :biggrin:

Oh man, I am laughing so hard my co-worker must be wondering whats going on