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Title: Newest Project!
Post by: SLIDER on March 05, 2013, 03:00:29 am
Just picked this up today!   1951 Wurlitzer 1400, never did one before but always wanted a jukebox!!
Totally complete, cabinet in great shape and the price was just too incredible to pass on....
Believe this will be my biggest challange yet???


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: Kilroy on March 05, 2013, 08:08:49 am
Congrats and welcome to the club!

I love the 1400.  I had one almost completed, but sold it to  finance another project. There are many jukebox owners here, A juke looks so good next to to a pop machine, so please keep us in the loop of your progress


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: jbrooks on March 05, 2013, 08:38:47 am
cool looking machine, I've been waiting for the right one to come along myself.  Good luck on the resto


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: SIGNGUY on March 05, 2013, 09:33:35 am
Aweseome Juke... I too love that one.. my favorite is still the wurly 1100.. but had would take one of these if the right one came up.

Very cool!


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: Chris on March 05, 2013, 04:21:46 pm
Nice juke! Can't wait for the finished pics!


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: rayg on March 06, 2013, 05:57:38 pm
Sweet Juke, love the vintage ones with all the nice chrome, lights and  wood.
Specially those that your can see the records actually playing!


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: BrianS on March 06, 2013, 11:46:18 pm
I have the same juke but have not touched it since I picked it up - plays but needs cosmetic restoration.  Post plenty of pics as you redo this one and congrats on your pickup.


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: Creighton on March 07, 2013, 02:15:27 am
Not a darn thing wrong with a 1400.
Congrats on a great score!
It will just be some cleaning and a new needle and you will be good to go.
Creighton


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: Kilroy on March 07, 2013, 07:44:41 am
Don't forget to  recap the amp and make the wiring isn't brittle. And the pilasters  on the 1400 are  harder to find than a RC  81. YOurs look like they were Wico repops, regardless, don't let them crack or break :)


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: bcharlton on March 07, 2013, 10:05:21 am
Glad to see others on the board are juke box fans.  Good luck with the project.  I am looking forward to more pictrues.

BC


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: SLIDER on March 08, 2013, 01:08:42 am
Just recieved a nice repop manual today!  GREAT schematics included.  What a fascinating machine!!!
Already found the missing 6L6, and 5U4 tubes.  Kilroy, thanks for the heads up on the caps already ordered a set, remember having to do the same thing on my old radio I restored.
Also I have read how hard it is to find the palasters!!!

Have a nice lead on an old pre- flipper pinball machine going to look at this weekend!  The old "time warp" room is starting to take shape!

Thank you all for your kind words and encouragement, this board is fantastic.    will keep you posted on progress....


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: BrianS on March 08, 2013, 02:07:46 am
You're inspiring to think about digging out my 1400.  Where did you pick up your manual?


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: SLIDER on March 08, 2013, 02:18:46 am
Guy on ebay sells them $18.95 + ship

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wurlitzer-1400-1450-Service-Manual-/220350799037?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item334dee5cbd


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: SLIDER on March 22, 2013, 12:10:28 am
Got the lights working!!!
Figured out that dang selector problem, so now now all trays are opening and closing perfectly.
Got turntable going up and down, but for some reason the motor only turns on for the upper record or odd number selections? (gotta figure that one out?)
Finished recapping the amp tonight, and the missing tubes arrived today so tomorrows the big test day for amp and speaker?????


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: Jacko1070 on March 22, 2013, 09:58:00 am
That's going to look amazing..........keep us updated


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: cola62 on March 22, 2013, 11:04:01 am
looking good.


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: Kilroy on March 22, 2013, 11:11:43 am
I love the 1400.  Looking good!


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: cohammer on March 22, 2013, 01:23:38 pm
That looks great, been wanting a juke box  but I am sure you know how hard it is to find one at the right price .Already have bad restorations and want to much or too far gone to fix.


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: SLIDER on March 22, 2013, 11:52:35 pm
Alot of work today!

1. Installed Recapped amp back into cabinet.
2. Installed tubes, and the new missing 5U4, and 6L6 tubes found on ebay.
3. hooked up all the amp leads again
4. repaired broken selector wheel wires and resoldered.


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: SLIDER on March 23, 2013, 12:03:17 am
THEN.......

5. Figured out where the turn table wires hooked up (still havent figured out why it wont turn on for the bottom or even number selections)
I moved on.....
6. Fixed that peskey selector arm, and cleaned and lubed it.
7. Everything looks good for the big test???
8. Dropped my nickel in....


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: SLIDER on March 23, 2013, 01:25:41 am
9. Picked selection # 21, record came out perfectly, turntable came up

10. IT WORKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UNBELIEVABLE

11. Original speaker sounds great!!


Now to figure out that turntable problem on the bottom records or even number selections????  :veryangry:
Work on 10 cent and 25 cent coin selection accumalator also.
Then FUN of cosmetic resto!!!!!


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: Kilroy on March 23, 2013, 08:34:11 am
if none of the even numbers will play,   make sure the contacts are  clean ( the 1400 has 2 sets of contacts per side . 
I am thinking more like a broken connection, or bad contact point   if haf your selections don't register


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: Eric on March 23, 2013, 09:03:59 am
Wow and a Vogue picture record... those can be worth some $$$! I would frame those above the juke... those are works of art themselves.
Nice jukebox...


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: SLIDER on March 23, 2013, 10:00:18 am
Thank you for the response Kilroy.  May be I did not state the problem well enough.  All the selections register fine.
It will search, choose the correct record, the tray comes out, turntable will bring up record to play. Arm will come over to to play record.  Only the turntable will not turn on/ rotate on the bottom song of the record or the even selections.  But on the top songs or odd selections turns on/ rotates and plays fine.


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: BONOVOX on March 23, 2013, 09:04:44 pm
Looks good!

With all that you did to it, I was waiting to read that you installed a Flux Capacitor!


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: SLIDER on March 30, 2013, 01:35:07 am
I finally figured out that darn turntable problem!  :happydrinkers: 
After INTENSE studying of the wire schematics and a lot of multi-meter Ohms probing I found a reversing switch located on the rear selector wheel assembly.
Now when the top side of the record (Or Odd Number selection) is chosen, a small tab cycles through and turns this switch on which turns on the turntable motor and spins it CLOCKWISE.---- NOW I found out power also runs though this same switch when the Bottom side of the record (or Even number selection)
is chosen too, its just that the tab does not turn the switch ON so power is routed to the opposite side of the turntable motor, and spins it COUNTER CLOCKWISE
After taking apart the switch and testing it, it was fine. Both coils on the Turntable motors ohm out good too. SOOOO the wire probing started, and I found the broken power wire from the harness to the switch!  Replaced and Works great on all 48 selections now!!  Now just finishing the fine tune adjustments!! which are about 20 of them.  :hopefull:  Amazing technology to behold how everything cycles in harmony!!!


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: Creighton on March 30, 2013, 01:58:18 am
Glad you found the issue.
Dinking about with some of my stuff and finding hidden by good insulation looking broken wires are first suspects.
Bad connections second. Coils and relays can tell when they are toast for the most part.

A good multi-meter and knowing how to use it will sort out how to fix a ton of problems.

YouTube of that juke in action?
Thanks.
Creighton


Title: Re: Newest Project!
Post by: SLIDER on March 30, 2013, 04:41:30 pm
Thanks Creighton!  Will definitely put up a YouTube soon on the mechanicals. Now the fun cosmetic stuff can be started. I am thrilled to death that my 12yr old has taken an interest in this project, and has been helping!!

I would imagine by the time Im done with the two pinballs I will be pretty versed with relays!!!   :biggrin: