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Trouble-Shooting => Coin Mechanisms => Topic started by: Deacon on February 06, 2013, 10:27:43 pm



Title: Cornelius Type 120 Coin mech missing Free vend Questions.
Post by: Deacon on February 06, 2013, 10:27:43 pm
Ok Guys,
      I have looked at the LONG thread about free vend but I guess my Machine being a newer one
or maybe because of the brand.  Isn't wired the same.  I don't have anything attached to pin 1. 
I  Have taken apart the Box that the Plug is mounted on and found a three prong molex plug tied to the
wiring of the Jones plug.  Two of the Pins on that are HOT and one seems to be a neutral.  If I jumper Pin 8
to Pin 6 I hear the Vending Solenoid click.  but no vend when I select a flavor.  So Then I figured that maybe someone
wired the Whole plug backwards and tried jumpering pin 2 and 6 together and the switch between 6 and 8 no joy.

I must be doing something wrong does anyone know how to make this work.

Deacon


Title: Re: Cornelius Type 120 Coin mech missing Free vend Questions.
Post by: Creighton on February 06, 2013, 10:32:26 pm
Cornelius went their own way at times. Any chance you can post pics?
Creighton


Title: Re: Cornelius Type 120 Coin mech missing Free vend Questions.
Post by: Deacon on February 06, 2013, 11:17:24 pm
Here are the Photos of the Wiring and a picture of the out side.

Deacon


Title: Re: Cornelius Type 120 Coin mech missing Free vend Questions.
Post by: Deacon on February 08, 2013, 07:10:30 pm
ok I found this schematic listed for a different model Cornelius then Mine
But I think The Wiring to the jones plug is the same as mine.  So What Wires Do I need to
Connect Together To Allow For Free Vending


Deacon


Title: Re: Cornelius Type 120 Coin mech missing Free vend Questions.
Post by: johnieG on February 08, 2013, 11:48:30 pm
1 & 3 , same as the free play switch diagram, I read your earlier posts & I believe you read the pinout backwards on your machine, the wiring diagram you've shown is correct, it's just pins 1 & 3.

pay attestation to the sold out switches & any carrier/vend ready ("vend-in-progress" switches in your case) switches on the rack. some machines required a minimum number of cans/bottle to be loaded into all of the selection columns before it would accept any coins or allow the selection buttons to activated.


Title: Re: Cornelius Type 120 Coin mech missing Free vend Questions.
Post by: Deacon on February 10, 2013, 11:01:43 pm
Thank you so much for the info going to go pick up more sodas and try wiring it to pins 1 & 3  and see what happens tomorrow.

Wish me luck boys.

 :darn:


Title: Re: Cornelius Type 120 Coin mech missing Free vend Questions.
Post by: Kilroy on February 11, 2013, 08:46:25 am
I just want to say good luck. We're all counting on you.


Title: Re: Cornelius Type 120 Coin mech missing Free vend Questions.
Post by: Deacon on February 11, 2013, 11:40:54 am
OK Maybe partial success.  I am hearing a click from the Credit relay under the jones plug.
however.  I am not getting a vend.  I am wondering if it is because I am missing one
of the vend relays.  for slot number 5.   I am wondering if the relays might be wired in
series.  I would think that would be a stupid way to do it but I can't rule it out yet.  
Hoping that I am wrong.  By The way my local electronics store doesn't seem to have
this relay it is a Potter & Brumfield KU-4366.  Does anyone have an extra one that they can
sell me.


Deacon :darn: :darn: :darn: :darn: :darn: :darn: :darn:


Title: Re: Cornelius Type 120 Coin mech missing Free vend Questions.
Post by: Norrisk66 on February 13, 2013, 04:34:20 pm
You should be able to get that relay from grainger.com. If you aren't trying to keep it original- I would just wire in a universal relay. You should be able to find a relay socket with "pigtails" that you could butt-splice in place.


Title: Re: Cornelius Type 120 Coin mech missing Free vend Questions.
Post by: tkaz on February 13, 2013, 04:43:28 pm
Just to make sure, do you have enough product in the column you are selecting to ensure that the sold out paddles are de-activated?


Title: Re: Cornelius Type 120 Coin mech missing Free vend Questions.
Post by: Deacon on February 16, 2013, 11:41:02 pm
Yes I have a case of soda in each selection.

Deacvon :darn: