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Title: Need some help on coolong system westinghouse WC-96T
Post by: cfunni on August 06, 2012, 08:23:35 am
First let me start out by saying I am new to old soda machine ownership. I recently did a barter on Craigslist for a fair condition WC-96T. The unit is complete and needs some cleaning up. I have removed the refrigeration unit and rewired it due to old cracking wires. Everything runs, but I found a Freon line broken. It is the small one that goes from the compressor to the top of the condenser coil. I tried to clean and solder it but it does not look like copper. It is silver not orange in color. Any ideas what this is and how to repair it.
Thanks
Craig in Houston


Title: Re: Need some help on coolong system westinghouse WC-96T
Post by: MrMark on August 06, 2012, 03:44:44 pm
It's probably steel. I've replaced them before using steel brake line tubing from an auto parts store. I used a spring tubing bender and got it pretty close to the shape of the old one. Just sand the coating off so brazing will stick.

As for soldering, you can't use soft solder like is found on water piping. And in all likelihood, the port on the compressor is steel, as is the condenser. For both of these you have to use brazing rod. Silfoss has phosphorus in it that eats up the steel. Clean 'em up real good with emery cloth, use some dry flux (or preflux brazing rod) and braze away. Be sure and have a dry nitrogen atmosphere in the system while brazing, and change the drier (or remove the strainer, whichever it has) and replace with a new C032 drier. Again, nitrogen atmosphere in the system while silfossing the drier in.
Evacuate to 1000 microns, break the vacuum with nitrogen, evacuate to 1000 microns, break the vacuum with refrigerant, evacuate to 250 microns (where it holds less than 500 for 3o minutes), and charge her up.


Title: Re: Need some help on coolong system westinghouse WC-96T
Post by: cfunni on August 06, 2012, 03:56:07 pm
MrMark, My guess was steel also, but thought it better to ask first. I guess its time to learn about brazing. I will post some pictures soon so you can see what I have.
Thanks MrMark


Title: Re: Need some help on coolong system westinghouse WC-96T
Post by: johnieG on August 07, 2012, 12:10:37 am
Use the "ol magnet trick, works every time. it's either steel or copper, typically it's steel on the older compressor decks. for those of you who don't have a micron rated gauge set, -30 inches of mercury will do nicely. there are conversion charts on the web, just google it. & if you have no idea what we are talking about, then have a pro look it over.


Title: Re: Need some help on coolong system westinghouse WC-96T
Post by: globalcompressors on August 07, 2012, 08:42:05 am
huh?  :Oo:

I googled the "magnet trick" and all I got was Bill Nuy the Science Guy!  :biggrin:


Title: Re: Need some help on coolong system westinghouse WC-96T
Post by: cfunni on August 07, 2012, 09:47:43 am
I am thinking I may just let a pro do this. Not sure if I need a whole new unit or this one repaired. I am In Houston so a trip to global compressors is not out of the question.
See pics of what I have.
Craig


Title: Re: Need some help on coolong system westinghouse WC-96T
Post by: jholmgren on August 07, 2012, 10:30:11 am
huh?  :Oo:

I googled the "magnet trick" and all I got was Bill Nuy the Science Guy!  :biggrin:

I assume Johnie means steel is ferrous (magnetic) and copper is not.   Other than that...I'm lost too, but I know when I'm in over my head.   :smile:


Title: Re: Need some help on coolong system westinghouse WC-96T
Post by: globalcompressors on August 07, 2012, 07:55:46 pm
I am thinking I may just let a pro do this. Not sure if I need a whole new unit or this one repaired. I am In Houston so a trip to global compressors is not out of the question.
See pics of what I have.
Craig

PM me... I'll be glad to help out!