Title: Ideal 150
Post by: glassbottlesrule on July 18, 2004, 03:52:41 pm
I am taking apart my ideal 150 which is a canadian version of the 55. I am stumped when it comes to taking out the inner liner. I realized I am going to have to take the cooling system apart which has me really bummed because it works like a champ. My question is what options do I have when refilling it. I am ignorant when it comes to this stuff and need to know how this can be converted to 134a because of the cooling tubes mounted to the inner liner. Can I just get a new compressor, how do i go about cleaning the tubes so the new coolant doesn't get contaminated? This is probably a question for global compressors and Eric.
Title: Ideal 150
Post by: globalcompressors on July 19, 2004, 10:16:53 pm
If you are going to pull the liner out, you can purge the tubing and then tape off the ends. Replace the compressor. Charge with R134a. Pretty straight forward. Contamination really won't be much of a problem if you keep everything clean, dry, and install a new drier. Don't use R134a in your existing compressor. You will burn it up. Use R414 if you want to keep it original. Good luck!
Eric
Eric
Title: Ideal 150
Post by: glassbottlesrule on July 20, 2004, 04:22:07 pm
thanks for the info. I'll call you amd get a price on a new deck. I was just worried about screwing up a new compressor by getting junk from the lines into it. This 414 coolant is it readily available and is it pricey?
Title: Ideal 150
Post by: globalcompressors on July 20, 2004, 05:25:30 pm
I really don't know the answer on the 414. We only use what
our industry calls for, R134a. All commercial refrigeration systems, vending machines, refrigerators, cars, etc. use 134.
Some low temperature systems, -20 degrees F, will use
R404a. 134a is easily found and is the least amount of money.
Maybe Jonnie G would know the answer to that one.
Eric
our industry calls for, R134a. All commercial refrigeration systems, vending machines, refrigerators, cars, etc. use 134.
Some low temperature systems, -20 degrees F, will use
R404a. 134a is easily found and is the least amount of money.
Maybe Jonnie G would know the answer to that one.
Eric
Title: Ideal 150
Post by: glassbottlesrule on July 24, 2004, 06:38:15 pm
Eric, thanks for the help. I will call you on a new deck. I f you do not hear from me for a few months do not worry I haven't taken your advice and ran. I have to finish bodywork first.
thanks again Brian
thanks again Brian
Title: Ideal 150
Post by: MoonDawg on July 25, 2004, 11:30:04 am
Brian, I can't imagine why yould have to remove the liner. Most dents and rust should be able to be worked from the outside of your machine, saving a lot of time and money.
Title: Ideal 150
Post by: glassbottlesrule on July 28, 2004, 11:27:29 pm
The drain tube got plugged up somewhere along the line causing the insulation to get wet causing some surface rust on the lower sides and bottom. Its nothing major and hasn't gotten to the pitting stage. I just wanted to nip it in the bud. The main reason for the complete tear-down is it's something I've never done and I wanted the experience before I tackle a high-dollar machine so I could line up all my resources for stripping and such. All the previous machines I've played with have been sixties Vendo machines and have needed nothing but clean-up and adjsutment for me to be happy.
Title: Ideal 150
Post by: audiobeer on July 30, 2004, 11:05:01 pm
Don't pull the liner unless you want to replace the liner itself. I have a Ideal 55 Pepsi cooler that has the most beautiful paint job....I mean show quality but I just don't have the time these days to put it all back together with the new cooling. None of the local cooling folks will fool with it! The cooling coils around the liner are the biggest pain in the ass! If anybody knows someone in Missouri that knows how to finish the job please let Me know! If I hadn't pulled the liner 4 years ago I would be enjoying some cold ones out of it by now. The Ideal 55 is one machine I will never ever pull a liner out of again! 
Title: Ideal 150
Post by: johnieG on July 31, 2004, 09:12:29 pm
Yep, They can be a bit of a pain in the @##, I know Pat Pixley here at this site had converted one of his Ideals 55's over to a forced air/evaportator, maybe this will encourage him to post some pictures ( hint - hint Pat!) 
Title: Ideal 150
Post by: glassbottlesrule on August 01, 2004, 08:26:30 am
yeah the liner was fun. It's done and I pressure tested everything afterwards and I don't think I destroyed the tubing. After reading pats explanation on doing the forced air system I think that I might be leaning that way. It just depends if this is a resale machine I'll do it original if for me I'll do a forced air. I'm still trying to fiqure out which brand to do. Those Faygo 90 really has me jealous.
Title: Ideal 150
Post by: glassbottlesrule on October 13, 2004, 06:46:31 pm
I have another one of these machines that I am getting ready to put inside for the winter. My problem is the coolant line ices up when running and melts when compressor cycles. Is this normal? I've seen on some machines people insulate this line, will this help? I have to come up with something as I will get in trouble if this thing leaks on the carpet.